stevegrant Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Most likely divided between BT and Sky again, as it sounds as though Discovery (who own Eurosport) decided against bidding in the end. There are 14 additional games in the new contract, meaning 168 of the 380 Premier League matches will be televised live in the UK from the 2016/17 season to the 2018/19 season. This is how the current deal is divided up: As you can see, the extra games are spread evenly across all 7 packages. The only rules are that no single broadcaster is allowed to show more than 126 games (a combination of 4 of the 28-game packages and one of the 14-game ones). New to this deal is a Friday night slot, with up to 10 matches to be shown on Friday nights - these games are in the same package as Monday nights. At least 18 of the 28 games must be shown on Mondays, with the remainder on Fridays. It's entirely possible that there might be NO Friday games at all, depending on what the winning broadcaster wants to do. The most interesting thing of note in that particular package is that there aren't even any SECOND-choice matches in it, it's only third- and fourth-choice games. In the current deal, 12 of the games in that package are second-choice. The first-choice picks have been spread out much more than the current deal, which could be seen as a bit of a blow to BT if they were aiming to keep what they already have. You would assume Sky will go all-in to ensure they keep their "Super Sunday" package (package D, with 18 first-choice games, and probably C as well, with 15 second-choice games), but the Saturday lunchtime slot which BT has at the moment has had the number of first picks cut from 13 to 6, so they'll almost certainly be throwing their weight in with a few of the other packages as well. With this ****-waving contest between the two broadcasters, the ultimate winners are the clubs, who will see another massive hike in broadcasting revenue and prize money. The existing deal is worth just over £3bn, it's not too far-fetched to think it'll be another 50% on top of that for the next deal. The losers, of course, are the fans who actually go to the games and have more games rearranged for TV, and paying subscribers who will presumably have to foot the bill for the increased price of acquiring the rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 The losers, of course, are the fans who actually go to the games and have more games rearranged for TV, and paying subscribers who will presumably have to foot the bill for the increased price of acquiring the rights. On the positive side, more money in the Premier League means Saints get more money to improve their squad and the club as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 I read a few reports about this earlier saying they expected it to reach £4.5b so the clubs are well and truly winners here! Sounds like beIN Sports might enter as a player here as well which I hope is true as the above mentioned companies already have far too much power. Personally I'd love to see the addition of a few smaller packages mainly aimed at the terrestrial market. Maybe 3-4 games a season that can only be purchased by a terrestrial station. I'd love to see Sky try and big up a 'Super Sunday' of Burnley vs Stoke followed by Aston Villa vs Sunderland whilst Channel 4 then get to show Chelsea vs Man City kicking off at 4pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 @charliesale: Hearing BT might have got the Sunday lunchtime package which would be a major triumph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Heard the headline so many billion figures for the previous deals before but never seen them broken down to individual matches. Approx £6.5million PER GAME !!!! How the hell do SKY make any money from that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 10 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Heard the headline so many billion figures for the previous deals before but never seen them broken down to individual matches. Approx £6.5million PER GAME !!!! How the hell do SKY make any money from that? Subscriptions. If you are a Sky subscriber with the most basic package, you would have to pay £24.50 a month to add Sky Sports. Over a year (and it's a minimum 12-month contract, of course), that's £294. Throw in the fact that many Sky Sports subscribers will also be paying for other bits of the Sky TV package (up to around £70 for the "everything" package now, I think), plus phone and broadband services which cost the square root of **** all to provide but rake in a fortune, PLUS advertising revenue, and they still turn a very tidy profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 @charliesale: Hearing BT might have got the Sunday lunchtime package which would be a major triumph Be a surprise with the money being forked out for EE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 10 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Sky retains 4pm "Super Sunday" games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 If people stopped subscribing this ridiculous ****.ing contest would stop. No? That's fine, you just carrying on giving your £35 a month or whatever it is to the company that instigated the horrific wages being paid to footballers while moaning about the horrific wages being paid to footballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Heard the headline so many billion figures for the previous deals before but never seen them broken down to individual matches. Approx £6.5million PER GAME !!!! How the hell do SKY make any money from that? Think of all those lovely ad breaks they like to get in! Always gets on my nerves the one right before kick off. They've handed over to the commentator who's gone through the teams and all the extra info regarding form, your excitement builds as it gets closer to that first whistle......... "it's the match up you've all been waiting for and we're ready for kick off.............right after this commercial break" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 10 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Sky has packages A, C, D, E and G. BT has packages B and F. Total value £5.136bn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 holy f*ck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Sky retains 4pm "Super Sunday" games. Well there goes my dream!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Sky has packages A, C, D, E and G. BT has packages B and F. Total value £5.136bn so we're still no nearer the predictions that footballs bubble is going to burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 @charliesale: Hearing BT might have got the Sunday lunchtime package which would be a major triumph Thats Rupert's mate isnt it ? Wrong again then !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 is the only change BT sport changing from 12:30 to 5:30 games? Ridiculous money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 10 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 10 February, 2015 so we're still no nearer the predictions that footballs bubble is going to burst. That theory was always based on any competition with Sky being led by a company with limited resources. BT weren't ever considered as a broadcaster until three years ago, and it's changed everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 That theory was always based on any competition with Sky being led by a company with limited resources. BT weren't ever considered as a broadcaster until three years ago, and it's changed everything. Wont be long before the first £1m a week player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 On the positive side, more money in the Premier League means Saints get more money to improve their squad and the club as a whole. And so do all the other clubs. It's all relative. What it really does is kill competition because the money does not trickle down through the leagues in a way that anyone could describe as fair. Match going fans have paid the price with more expensive tickets and inconvenient kick off times. If it wasn't for these fans who create the "best atmosphere in the world" or whatever trumped up nonsense Sky call it then paid subscriptions would die on their arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Ridiculus number of games per season for tv. Friday night games would be better than Monday nights, so a small bonus there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Wont be long before the first £1m a week player. Les should offer Mane something in that region this summer. Boy is class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 I get BT thrown in with my Virgin subscription but they'll soon be charging for it if they're stumping up that much extra cash for the rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Ridiculus number of games per season for tv. Friday night games would be better than Monday nights, so a small bonus there. Yeah that is much better. Maybe the clubs could use some of the extra money to reduce ticket prices rather than spunk it on extra player wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Ridiculus number of games per season for tv. Friday night games would be better than Monday nights, so a small bonus there. Monday nights is rubbish. Always a bit of an after thought after the weekends game and it's usually a pretty uninspiring game. Friday night games will be good for the TV fan and the home club, few beers straight from work then to the game but for the away club a nightmare. Traffic is bad enough and trains usually packed, add in 1,000 football fans travelling on an already packed friday night train it'd be horrendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 10 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 10 February, 2015 This is how the cash was distributed last season: Based on that distribution model, and on the assumption that the overseas rights increase in line with the domestic ones (a conservative estimate, as they have increased at a much faster rate in the last decade), that means the "equal share" part of the deal would see EVERY Premier League club guaranteed £88.83m every season, plus a guaranteed £13m for 10 "facility fee" payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 (edited) On the positive side, more money in the Premier League means Saints get more money to improve their squad and the club as a whole. And so do all the other clubs. It's all relative. The bottom placed team in the Premier League earns more in TV money than what are considered large European clubs at the top of their leagues. The Premier League clubs even at the bottom can pick them of for players. What it really does is kill competition because the money does not trickle down through the leagues in a way that anyone could describe as fair. The money trickles down when Premier League clubs buy players from clubs in the Football League. What are you claiming is unfair? Why should businesses in the lower leagues get hand outs? Why should for example Pompey benefit from people wanting to watch the Premier League? Edited 10 February, 2015 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Yeah that is much better. Maybe the clubs could use some of the extra money to reduce ticket prices rather than spunk it on extra player wages. We need a bigger stadium with cheaper ticket prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 I've stopped paying for Sky Sports and I get BT for free. They start charging for that it goes as well. Refuse to pay obscene prices so average players, with IQs lower than some things I've flushed, get obscene wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Bet it's carnage in football agent's offices, bet it's like scene from Wolf of Wall Street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Ridiculus number of games per season for tv. Friday night games would be better than Monday nights, so a small bonus there. Agree with that. I'm more likely to be able to attend Friday night matches over Monday night ones, especially after a long week at work ... I expect lots of people will be in that boat too!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 The bottom placed team in the Premier League earns more in TV money than what are considered large European clubs at the top of their leagues. The Premier League clubs even at the bottom can pick them of for players. The money trickles down when Premier League clubs buy players from clubs in the football league. What are you claiming is unfair? Why should businesses get hand outs? Why should for example Pompey benefit from people wanting to watch the Premier League? I think there is an element of unfairness in the Championship given their new FFP rules and the increased size of parachute payments. A club that has just been relegated will be able to way out spend the other clubs. On the other hand, a club that has just been relegated is probably not that well run and may not be able to use their advantage effectively. I talked about this in a blog post with too much arithmetic last November. http://redsloscf.blogspot.com/2014/11/what-happens-if-southampton-is.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 The money trickles down when Premier League clubs buy players from clubs in the Football League. What are you claiming is unfair? Why should businesses get hand outs? Why should for example Pompey benefit from people wanting to watch the Premier League? Did you learn nothing from being in L1 you utter c**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 I think there is an element of unfairness in the Championship given their new FFP rules and the increased size of parachute payments. A club that has just been relegated will be able to way out spend the other clubs. None of the current top 6 in the Championship have parachute payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 I've stopped paying for Sky Sports and I get BT for free. They start charging for that it goes as well. Refuse to pay obscene prices so average players, with IQs lower than some things I've flushed, get obscene wages. Yep, already decided this will be the last year I pay for Sky Sports as well. Also will be downgrading Virgin Media anyway to the base package as it's all just stupid money for stuff we never watch. Saving £50+ a month is more money for other things ... like football days out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Did you learn nothing from being in L1 What are you claiming I should have learned? you utter c**t. No need for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 That's incredible. Getting to the point now where the financial benefit from qualifying for the Champions League is diluted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 None of the current top 6 in the Championship have parachute payments. True--hence my point about such clubs not being well run. But there is still an element of unfairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 The bottom placed team in the Premier League earns more in TV money than what are considered large European clubs at the top of their leagues. The Premier League clubs even at the bottom can pick them of for players. The money trickles down when Premier League clubs buy players from clubs in the Football League. What are you claiming is unfair? Why should businesses get hand outs? Why should for example Pompey benefit from people wanting to watch the Premier League? And you'd be saying that if we were languishing in League 1 without an owner who was prepared to pump money into the club to get us where we are? Premier League clubs rarely pay top money for lower league players. Most of the clubs selling anyone half decent are those recently relegated who have players worth something. Who, aside from Oxlade-Chamberlain, has been bought for £15million from below the Premier League? Also I'm not sure why the Premier League buying loads top players from abroad is a good thing? They should be concentrating on bringing through youngsters. Our clubs are still average in Europe, not that I particularly care how anyone other than Saints does anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 The bottom placed team in the Premier League earns more in TV money than what are considered large European clubs at the top of their leagues. The Premier League clubs even at the bottom can pick them of for players. The money trickles down when Premier League clubs buy players from clubs in the Football League. What are you claiming is unfair? Why should businesses in the lower leagues get hand outs? Why should for example Pompey benefit from people wanting to watch the Premier League? By your logic, in terms of what is 'fair', we shouldn't be benefitting from people wanting to watch Man Utd and Chelsea so much, but we are. For the long term good of the overall game, it would be good to see as much of this money as possible make it's way down through the football pyramid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 That's incredible. Getting to the point now where the financial benefit from qualifying for the Champions League is diluted. isnt that due to go up (by quite a bit)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 The bottom placed team in the Premier League earns more in TV money than what are considered large European clubs at the top of their leagues. The Premier League clubs even at the bottom can pick them of for players. The money trickles down when Premier League clubs buy players from clubs in the Football League. What are you claiming is unfair? Why should businesses in the lower leagues get hand outs? Why should for example Pompey benefit from people wanting to watch the Premier League? You really are mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 All this Income makes selling Schneiderlin for £20m or whatever less tempting. Reckon the big bros are gonna find it increasingly difficult to poach players off other prem clubs, hopefully, or at least, they'll find it's Not Worth It Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 This is all the kind of info I ignore when I'm buying an over priced prima donna on fm15. Save, lose, reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percy windham Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 What are you claiming I should have learned? No need for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 By your logic, in terms of what is 'fair', we shouldn't be benefitting from people wanting to watch Man Utd and Chelsea so much, but we are. For the long term good of the overall game, it would be good to see as much of this money as possible make it's way down through the football pyramid. Man Utd and Chelsea have to play someone in the league, the teams they play deserve to be paid. What have Pompey for example done to deserve the Premier League TV money to be handed to them when they are in League 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 £5bn? Holy ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 You really are mental. Pathetic yet again. Petty insults and not even a brief hint of why you disagree with me, let alone a proper rebuttal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 5bn+, a rise of over 2bn. Obscene just doesn't cover it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Mental. The winners are,in no particular order...... The footballers The agents....... The clubs..... Expensive car dealerships.....Maserati,Bentley and alike. Michelin starred restaurants..... I think that's about it. The losers......where do we start.... Oh yeah,the fans is a good start.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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