ericofarabia Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 (edited) Oooops double post!! Anyway whilst I'm here what is it with the rich and famous and Public Bogs? George Michael, Hugh Grant, Man U player ..... can't they afford a room with their money? Edited 9 February, 2015 by ericofarabia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 IMO the girl was stupid but the guys who took/distributed the video are beneath contempt ! Ps. Good on Coxford Lou for holding her own in the face of some very provocative comments ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 IMO the girl was stupid but the guys who took/distributed the video are beneath contempt ! Ps. Good on Coxford Lou for holding her own in the face of some very provocative comments ! Thanks eurosaint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Society has become this amazing place where, rather than spend every evening doing the washing up, while their bloke is sh*gging the secretary, women can now damn well do whatever the hell they want, including having a sh*g in the toilets if that's what suits them. And it's f*cking great!! (Scuse the language) What a load of pony. Men can't do " whatever the hell they want" so why should chicks. If I went into the ladies and had a tug I'd get arrested , I doubt you would have much sympathy for me . I'm all for dirty birds, but stop trying to pretend this old slapper is some sort of Emily Pankhurst type figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 What a load of pony. Men can't do " whatever the hell they want" so why should chicks. If I went into the ladies and had a tug I'd get arrested , I doubt you would have much sympathy for me . I'm all for dirty birds, but stop trying to pretend this old slapper is some sort of Emily Pankhurst type figure. LOL! I definitely didn't do that!! I said, don't judge someone until you've met them or been in their shoes. And I couldn't understand why every effing post on this thread has been about her 'deserving it' rather than thinking the guys who shared the film were despicable. But no, you guys just can't see this, because I reckon you've got this daft notion of women being little angels sitting high on a pedestal, who can (or should!) do no wrong. Just don't fall off that pedestal, ladies! Whereas blokes - it's all a bit of a laugh, innit. Whereas, I think what she, and he did is mildly amusing (just glad I wasn't in the queue waiting for them). What the lads who filmed then circulated the film did, is pretty bloody disgusting. Hope my stance is now clear on that issue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Surely the footballer in question is the ultimate victim in this, he's the one with his willy all over the internet...I'm sure she'd eat a fruit pastilles lolly in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Surely the footballer in question is the ultimate victim in this, he's the one with his willy all over the internet...I'm sure she'd eat a fruit pastilles lolly in public. You'd think. But unfortunately there aren't words like 'slapper', 'slut', 'bint', 'slag' to describe men, or any shame attached to it whatsoever. So while he might get a bollocking from his club, he certainly won't have any consequences that will affect his reputation in anything other than a positive way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Society has become this amazing place where, rather than spend every evening doing the washing up, while their bloke is sh*gging the secretary, women can now damn well do whatever the hell they want, including having a sh*g in the toilets if that's what suits them. And it's f*cking great!! (Scuse the language) I assume the said secretary who was giving it to the man all those years ago, was female? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 I assume the said secretary who was giving it to the man all those years ago, was female? That's a good observation. Although I'm not entirely sure what point you're making? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 What a load of pony. Men can't do " whatever the hell they want" so why should chicks. If I went into the ladies and had a tug I'd get arrested , I doubt you would have much sympathy for me . I'm all for dirty birds, but stop trying to pretend this old slapper is some sort of Emily Pankhurst type figure. Ah yes, fantastic false equivalence. Those two scenarios are not remotely similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 That's a good observation. Although I'm not entirely sure what point you're making? Perhaps it was that, if you're going to bemoan the stereotypical treatment of one sex by the other, then you might need to be holier-than-thou when making your counter-arguments. A couple of times during your defence of the woman, I felt violated and treated as an entire gender and not as an individual! Well, a little, maybe. Well played though, Lou. I think you have a point, a number of good points in fact, but I think you might be conflating a number of arguments. Most people seem to be commenting about the Woman, because the article is told from her perspective, and the impact it has had on her. So, I'm sure much, but obviously not all of the focus on the woman's actions have stemmed from there. There is obviously a remnant of '70s attitudes to gender, and I imagine many people are still coming to terms with Girl Power - whatever that means, but perhaps a better question to ask would be to gauge people's reactions if their son was her cubicle companion. That might then separate the act from the gender. For the record, I've got one of each sex, and I'd be disgusted if either were involved in something like this. And I'd likely blame them and not the cameraman, if their respective body parts were trending on Twitter. *special award goes to Lord Duckhunter for getting the use of the term 'chicks' in under the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 (edited) Ah yes, fantastic false equivalence. Those two scenarios are not remotely similar. What's the difference? You should be able to go into any public toilet and not have to put up with listening to two scumbags ****ging or noshing off or whatever. It makes no difference if it is a man and woman, two men or just one bloke spanking the monkey. Well done to the guys who filmed it, I doubt this girl will nosh off many footballers in public in the future. Edited 9 February, 2015 by aintforever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 "She’ll be worried about how she appears to the players. That will be her concern more than anything, she wants to protect them" So basically just hangs our with a bunch of footballers, sucking them off in the gents and she is worried they wont respect her if they see this video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Perhaps it was that, if you're going to bemoan the stereotypical treatment of one sex by the other, then you might need to be holier-than-thou when making your counter-arguments. A couple of times during your defence of the woman, I felt violated and treated as an entire gender and not as an individual! Well, a little, maybe. Well played though, Lou. I think you have a point, a number of good points in fact, but I think you might be conflating a number of arguments. Most people seem to be commenting about the Woman, because the article is told from her perspective, and the impact it has had on her. So, I'm sure much, but obviously not all of the focus on the woman's actions have stemmed from there. There is obviously a remnant of '70s attitudes to gender, and I imagine many people are still coming to terms with Girl Power - whatever that means, but perhaps a better question to ask would be to gauge people's reactions if their son was her cubicle companion. That might then separate the act from the gender. For the record, I've got one of each sex, and I'd be disgusted if either were involved in something like this. And I'd likely blame them and not the cameraman, if their respective body parts were trending on Twitter. *special award goes to Lord Duckhunter for getting the use of the term 'chicks' in under the radar. No, but you misunderstand me Bletch! The feminist stuff is confusing things - this isn't about men v woman - I just happen to be having this debate on a forum full of men (women can be equally nasty towards other women). I go back to my original criteria: Is it fun - if so, lucky you, carry on as you are Is it harming someone - if so, then stop. I'd class a woman having an affair with a married man as harming someone, so my advice would be not to do it. That said, plenty of decent people have got themselves into that kind of mess in the past, so I'm certainly not going to burn them at the stake for doing so. People f*ck up all the time, that's life. I not having a go at 'men' as a group. I like men! I'm just trying to respond to individuals. If it sounds like I'm critisising men as a generic group, feel free to call me on it, and I'll try and better explain what I mean or rephrase. The fact is, none of my male friends would have opinions like this, so I wouldnt dream of lumping you all together! Sorry if I'm not responding to all your points. I'm on an iPad and its a nightmare copying and pasting. I have lots of thoughts on this topic, that I may or may not be articulating that well, around women's behaviour (on larger scale) being influenced by fear of retribution, but I'll save you the joy of that another time! I hope I don't really sound holier than thou... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Performing sex acts in public places is against the law. Making videos on your phone in public places isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 The fact is, none of my male friends would have opinions like this I dunno Lou, do you sometimes find, when you walk into a room full of your male friends, that the flow of their conversation stutters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Out of interest, if the video was the other way round (bloke engaging in a bit of cunning linguist) then would it be the bloke that should be embarrassed about it, or would it be the woman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Performing sex acts in public places is against the law. Making videos on your phone in public places isn't. I would have said making a video of this nature is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 I would have said making a video of this nature is... Yeah, surely voyeurism is illegal? Although I know in a couple of countries it isn't, no idea of the British laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 I dunno Lou, do you sometimes find, when you walk into a room full of your male friends, that the flow of their conversation stutters? oh no, what have I done. Now everyone thinks I'm a boring ball breaker. This thread has ruined my reputation!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 What's the difference? You should be able to go into any public toilet and not have to put up with listening to two scumbags ****ging or noshing off or whatever. It makes no difference if it is a man and woman, two men or just one bloke spanking the monkey. Well done to the guys who filmed it, I doubt this girl will nosh off many footballers in public in the future. What's the difference? A man and a woman in a toilet together - or a man going into the ladies to masturbate? If you are unable to see the difference there, I really don't have much to say to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Performing sex acts in public places is against the law. Making videos on your phone in public places isn't. As I said before, test that theory out. Next time you are in public toilets, try filming over the door and then distributing the videos. See if your 'it's a public place' bull stands up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 What's the difference? A man and a woman in a toilet together - or a man going into the ladies to masturbate? If you are unable to see the difference there, I really don't have much to say to you. I think he meant a man going into the men's to jack off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 I think he meant a man going into the men's to jack off. Here's the post, unless I am mistaken and Lord D is in fact a lady. What a load of pony. Men can't do " whatever the hell they want" so why should chicks. If I went into the ladies and had a tug I'd get arrested , I doubt you would have much sympathy for me . I'm all for dirty birds, but stop trying to pretend this old slapper is some sort of Emily Pankhurst type figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 oh no, what have I done. Now everyone thinks I'm a boring ball breaker. This thread has ruined my reputation!! omg hush up guys! Lou's coming! So anyway, as were just saying, I think this person should be applauded for her free and equitable use of Men's urinals! I wish my daughter was half so feminist! The blokes are all scum tho, obviously, their behaviour disgusts me. Oh, hi Lou. We were just saying how great it is that women are finally free to nosh off blok- I mean, fulfil their sexual desires - in gent's urinals. Have you seen the new Dyson Airblade? They've got one here! Yeah for real. Come with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Here's the post, unless I am mistaken and Lord D is in fact a lady. My mistake, apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 What's the difference? A man and a woman in a toilet together - or a man going into the ladies to masturbate? If you are unable to see the difference there, I really don't have much to say to you. Of course there's a difference but you seem to think it's OK to perform sex acting in public toilets, how is a man performing a sex act (alone or with a partner) in a ladies toilet any less acceptable than a woman in a mans? I think you will find in the eyes of the law there is no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 All this talk of masturbating in toilets is really turning me on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 That's a good observation. Although I'm not entirely sure what point you're making? The secretary could do what she wanted then as now. ****ging around by both sexes has gone on for all time, it is just now women are happy to brag about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 No, but you misunderstand me Bletch! The feminist stuff is confusing things - this isn't about men v woman - I just happen to be having this debate on a forum full of men (women can be equally nasty towards other women). I go back to my original criteria: Is it fun - if so, lucky you, carry on as you are Is it harming someone - if so, then stop. I'd class a woman having an affair with a married man as harming someone, so my advice would be not to do it. That said, plenty of decent people have got themselves into that kind of mess in the past, so I'm certainly not going to burn them at the stake for doing so. People f*ck up all the time, that's life. I not having a go at 'men' as a group. I like men! I'm just trying to respond to individuals. If it sounds like I'm critisising men as a generic group, feel free to call me on it, and I'll try and better explain what I mean or rephrase. The fact is, none of my male friends would have opinions like this, so I wouldnt dream of lumping you all together! Sorry if I'm not responding to all your points. I'm on an iPad and its a nightmare copying and pasting. I have lots of thoughts on this topic, that I may or may not be articulating that well, around women's behaviour (on larger scale) being influenced by fear of retribution, but I'll save you the joy of that another time! I hope I don't really sound holier than thou... It's an interesting credo Lou, and I've been running scenarios through it, and I agree that most of the time it seems to work. I'm sure you'll tell me that you also see "shades of grey" in between the black and the white of your christo-hedonistic philosophy, but one area where the test fails - or at least comes under strain is where two people view the same act differently. Let's assume that Cubicle Woman was in the toilets with Robin from Despatch, and not Robin from Wilmslow. And let's assume that no photographs were taken, but instead many people in the male toilets saw her in the act. Let's then assume that one of the males that saw the act told his mate, who told his Mum, who is best mates with Cubicle Woman's mother in the tiny village where they live. Perhaps Cubicle Woman felt she was living life to the full and enjoying the sort of sexual freedom that her generation has 'fought' for, but it might be that in the tiny village where they live, her mother may not hold the same view. And to show balance, the story works the same way if the offended party was Robin from Despatch's mother - or father for that matter. My reaction to the story, and perhaps that of a few others here, comes from imagining the sort of scenario I've described above. I recognise that if social norms weren't challenged, then you might still be living in the barn with the cattle, so the situation above might be the motivation for Cubicle Woman to sit down with her mother and persuade her that things have changed, and that her mother must adjust her now-prudish views. But even in that scenario, someone was still going to be hurt. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 Are you outing RVP there, beltch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 Are you outing RVP there, beltch? He's taking away my will to live reading that load of old tosh. It takes longer to read it than it does to do the actual deed, but far less enjoyable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 He's taking away my will to live reading that load of old tosh. It takes longer to read it than it does to do the actual deed, but far less enjoyable Christ Eric. You been going on speed reading lessons again? How the hell did you read Blotches post in 4 seconds? This tale reminds me of the "Overweight Fugly Dubai DJ" and his unfortunate memory lapse down at the Boston Bar a few years ago (He forgot the back door to the pub had CCTV (in both senses of the word allegedly) More to the point here inbetween the morally offended brigade (FFS people just go and wait in the cinema for 40 minutes until the naughty bits in 50 shades in a couple of days time) think you've all been missing the crotch of the matter - the opportunity for some really bad puns and new anti manu songs Will this derail Maure's bid to screw up Champion's League qualification again? Was it anywhere near a Nando's? Was Wayne having a "head" transplant. Did Angry do Maria? Was she a Foulcow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 What a load of pony. Men can't do " whatever the hell they want" so why should chicks. If I went into the ladies and had a tug I'd get arrested , I doubt you would have much sympathy for me . I'm all for dirty birds, but stop trying to pretend this old slapper is some sort of Emily Pankhurst type figure. "Old slapper?" So you deduce this from the fact she was having oral in a public place. Do you think that many females who aren't actually "old slappers" have have sex with their partners in public places? If men get a nosh in a public bog they are seen as "lads" and good on them whereas the person performing the act is seen in your eyes as an "old slapper." One rule for one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 But Cubicle Girl's Mum may be a broad minded soul and has already suggested to Cubicle Girl that Robin from Dispatch come around and get his Hampton out for her so they can all have a dirty threesome? At least that's what happens in the short films i have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 Some of the films are actually Quite Long, it's just you tap out early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 Some of the films are actually Quite Long, it's just you tap out early Too right. Gives me more time to read stuff on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 Are you outing RVP there, beltch? Nope, just RfD. He's taking away my will to live reading that load of old tosh. It takes longer to read it than it does to do the actual deed, but far less enjoyable It was a tantric post, and to be fair ericofarabia, I didn't realise you would be furiously 'cleaning your glasses', waiting for the 'punch line'. Apologies for that. (Feel free to stop reading here, eric? eric?...) Anyway, Bear is a tantric practitioner, he and Toke have been subjected to my posts for some time now. They are the Sting and Trudie Styler of TMS. (Not sure which one is which). I know sometimes it feels like you've just got to give that gloy gift, but I'd urge you to see your todger in a transcendental context, and imagine its brain being fulfilled only once it has aligned its chakras. Probably. With practice my son, you will make it to the end, and Mrs ericofarabia will PM her thanks to me 'personally'. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 But Cubicle Girl's Mum may be a broad minded soul and has already suggested to Cubicle Girl that Robin from Dispatch come around and get his Hampton out for her so they can all have a dirty threesome? At least that's what happens in the short films i have seen. True. In these art house films you...'watch', is it a usually a biological Mum or a step-mum/mom? I only ask because a friend (who watches a lot of these films), told me that they all end in an apparently contradictory way - a mother and daughter fighting over the same DNA, yet sharing none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 (edited) "Old slapper?" So you deduce this from the fact she was having oral in a public place. Do you think that many females who aren't actually "old slappers" have have sex with their partners in public places? If men get a nosh in a public bog they are seen as "lads" and good on them whereas the person performing the act is seen in your eyes as an "old slapper." One rule for one... To be fair, it's not her partner is it, it's a footballer in a toilet. Personally I think it's bad form, but from both sides, although you come to expect it from blokes. In general we have a far higher promiscuity factor than women, which is why she is probably seen like this, and the bloke is seen as a moron. To be fair, I'm not sure she'd be seen as so much of a slapper if he was giving oral to her. Just makes her look like a desperate girl trying to be a wag, which ain't a good look. Edited 11 February, 2015 by Unbelievable Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 To be fair, it's not her partner is it, it's a footballer in a toilet. Personally I think it's bad form, but from both sides, although you come to expect it from blokes. In general we have a far lower promiscuity factor than women, which is why she is probably seen like this, and the bloke is seen as a moron. To be fair, I'm not sure she'd be seen as so much of a slapper if he was giving oral to her. Just makes her look like a desperate girl trying to be a wag, which ain't a good look. This pretty much sums up what I, and I think Lou though I don't want to put words into her mouth, have been getting at. It's the varying perceptions of the people involved. I'm not buying this "oh the story is about her, that's why I'm calling her a slag" crap. It's utter nonsense wrapped up as an excuse to attack a woman for being involved in a consensual act between a man and woman. I don't mean to single you out, or attack you personally UJ - and I genuinely apologise if it comes across that way, but this is a good example of what I am trying to get at. Why should the perception of either party be different? Why should 'you come to expect it from blokes', or have a 'lower promiscuity factor than women' - you recognise yourself the inconsistency in attitudes towards the two people involved, based on their gender. Before talking about how much of a slapper she is, but not him. Look, I'm not exactly extolling the virtues of getting hot and heavy in the toilets of a nightclub. It's not something I've done, or will likely ever do. But, the reactions highlight some of the broader issues in attitudes towards men and women. Everyone jumps to call her a bint, slag, slapper etc. If she dares say that she's upset at being filmed, it's her own fault. Again, this is nonsense, as with every single person who has made this stupid argument they don't seem to be so happy for someone to film them using the toilet (quite right too). Just because they are 'public toilets' (named so because they are open to use by the public at large, as opposed to private toilets used only by you or your guests in your home), doesn't mean you would expect anyone and everyone to have a good gander at what you are doing, and share it round to anyone. It's the exact same ploy used against the victims of the photo hackings recently, who were mostly but not entirely female - "Well, if you didn't want your photo's all over the internet, you shouldn't have taken them". It's bullsh!t, and it's just yet another in a long history of men dictating what women should or should not do, and absolving their own ****ty actions. There's little blame or even worry that people are hacking people's phones, accessing and distributing private, intimate photographs. But, hey, these women are taking provocative photographs they are whores, they practically deserve this. This attitude is damaging to everyone. Men and women. The ideas of what makes a man, and what makes a woman and any deviation from this makes you weird, or gay, or slag, or slapper etc places great pressure on men or women to act in a narrowly defined manner. It is bad for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 I agree with everything you said there krg This sort of "slut-shaming" is unfair, unwarranted & very damaging to society. It affects everyone! Do we really want to live in a society where a person has to think twice, has to be reluctant, has to consider possible negative consequences, before sucking off a dude in a nightclub toilet? IS THIS WHAT WE WANT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essruu Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 All of this arguing about the rights and wrongs, heroes and villains in this matter is all well and good; but I've just had to read all of your bickering and still didn't even find a link to the video to see if the dirtbag bing was actually worth getting a nosh from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 This pretty much sums up what I, and I think Lou though I don't want to put words into her mouth, have been getting at. It's the varying perceptions of the people involved. I'm not buying this "oh the story is about her, that's why I'm calling her a slag" crap. It's utter nonsense wrapped up as an excuse to attack a woman for being involved in a consensual act between a man and woman. I don't mean to single you out, or attack you personally UJ - and I genuinely apologise if it comes across that way, but this is a good example of what I am trying to get at. Why should the perception of either party be different? Why should 'you come to expect it from blokes', or have a 'lower promiscuity factor than women' - you recognise yourself the inconsistency in attitudes towards the two people involved, based on their gender. Before talking about how much of a slapper she is, but not him. Look, I'm not exactly extolling the virtues of getting hot and heavy in the toilets of a nightclub. It's not something I've done, or will likely ever do. But, the reactions highlight some of the broader issues in attitudes towards men and women. Everyone jumps to call her a bint, slag, slapper etc. If she dares say that she's upset at being filmed, it's her own fault. Again, this is nonsense, as with every single person who has made this stupid argument they don't seem to be so happy for someone to film them using the toilet (quite right too). Just because they are 'public toilets' (named so because they are open to use by the public at large, as opposed to private toilets used only by you or your guests in your home), doesn't mean you would expect anyone and everyone to have a good gander at what you are doing, and share it round to anyone. It's the exact same ploy used against the victims of the photo hackings recently, who were mostly but not entirely female - "Well, if you didn't want your photo's all over the internet, you shouldn't have taken them". It's bullsh!t, and it's just yet another in a long history of men dictating what women should or should not do, and absolving their own ****ty actions. There's little blame or even worry that people are hacking people's phones, accessing and distributing private, intimate photographs. But, hey, these women are taking provocative photographs they are whores, they practically deserve this. This attitude is damaging to everyone. Men and women. The ideas of what makes a man, and what makes a woman and any deviation from this makes you weird, or gay, or slag, or slapper etc places great pressure on men or women to act in a narrowly defined manner. It is bad for everyone. I don't disagree with any of that KRG, and the above isn't my opinion, but just how I believe it is seen, rightly or wrongly. I actually think it would make a big difference if the party involved wasn't a footballer, and it was just two people who hooked up on a night off. I think this is more the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 All of this arguing about the rights and wrongs, heroes and villains in this matter is all well and good; but I've just had to read all of your bickering and still didn't even find a link to the video to see if the dirtbag bing was actually worth getting a nosh from. Very good point, no one called a rule 1 before casting judgement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Malvo Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 (edited) Sounds like the usual skank looking for her 5 mins of fame..probably will have her own reality tv show soon enough. Thats how it works these days. Edited 11 February, 2015 by Lorne Malvo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 True. In these art house films you...'watch', is it a usually a biological Mum or a step-mum/mom? I only ask because a friend (who watches a lot of these films), told me that they all end in an apparently contradictory way - a mother and daughter fighting over the same DNA, yet sharing none. I'm sorry Bletch, I don't know. I can only bow to your "friends" superior knowledge of such matters, my own comprehension is sadly diluted by the limited windows of opportunity that are presented to me. However, your "friend" is correct in that the apparent female relations are joined in a final celebration of the fun that has just occurred with an act that is, I believe, referred to as the "Screaming Eagles", where Robin from Dispatch attempts to feed his worm to the eager Cubicle ladies who are kneeling and with their mouths open expectantly, not dissimilar to the feeding process of hungry young birds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 To be fair, it's not her partner is it, it's a footballer in a toilet. Personally I think it's bad form, but from both sides, although you come to expect it from blokes. In general we have a far lower promiscuity factor than women, which is why she is probably seen like this, and the bloke is seen as a moron. To be fair, I'm not sure she'd be seen as so much of a slapper if he was giving oral to her. Just makes her look like a desperate girl trying to be a wag, which ain't a good look. What is a "Promiscuity factor"? Are you suggesting men are less promiscuous than women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 Have You Seen The Women Jeff Hangs Out With Tho Deano? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 11 February, 2015 Share Posted 11 February, 2015 What is a "Promiscuity factor"? Are you suggesting men are less promiscuous than women? Meant to be higher. Got carried away and then couldn't edit properly on my phone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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