eurosaint Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 It was about this time last season all the moaners got on the back of SRL, now its Pelle's turn despite his hercluean efforts for the team, give it a rest guys please? He has no real direct replacement with Long, Jay Rod and Sam all injured - you can imagine the meltdown if he got injured too! We have never had it so good, all these club records being broken, defying the odds, keep the faith and be tolerant/patient. You do realise that you are posting on the Saintsweb forum ? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Allardyce confirmed that Andy Carroll could return from injury on Wednesday for the match against Southampton. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/11399388/West-Ham-manager-Sam-Allardyce-takes-swipe-at-Manchester-Uniteds-long-ball-tactics-in-Upton-Park-draw.html Good. I like Carroll but reading KUMB they prefer Valencia and Sakho up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Good. I like Carroll but reading KUMB they prefer Valencia and Sakho up front. Carroll is on a bit of a hot streak isn't he? I don't want him playing against us without Toby to snuff him out frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans gruber Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 I think the reputation West Ham is a bit undeserved this year - I agree in previous seasons that they have been direct, but in a fairness to Big Sam he has listened to the criticism and has responded. I think they play decent stuff, with quick, exciting strikers, and they seem to get the ball to Song and Downing's feet when they can. I would rather they did well than the 'big teams' just below us - Man U, Tottenham, Arsenal and Liverpool. Don't get me wrong, I hope we smash em on Wednesday, but if they finished 4th just behind us, would have no problem with that. there fixed that for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Carroll is on a bit of a hot streak isn't he? I don't want him playing against us without Toby to snuff him out frankly. The big difference between them this year and last year is they actually have some strikers. As much as I hate Carroll, he's had a good season this year, and is always a threat up top, They have some decent full backs who offer something going forward and they have an excellent DM in Song. We'll have to play well to beat them, and they've got goals in them, especially on the break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 On to the next one then... 2 changes, I'd think - Morgan in for JWP and Gardos in for Targett, if his head injury means he's ruled out. So quick to remove JWP, but tell me who will take the free kicks and corners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 It was about this time last season all the moaners got on the back of SRL, now its Pelle's turn despite his hercluean efforts for the team, give it a rest guys please? That's a great way to describe it - he has been just that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 My suggested lineup--I know it won't happen. Forster Clyne Fonte Gardos Yoshida Wanyama Reed Elia Schneiderlin Mane Pelle I believe Schneiderlin can be effective in the more advanced roll and the extra defensive strength will help with West Ham's normal play style. If Cork were still with us I would play him instead of Reed in the more advanced role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Carroll is on a bit of a hot streak isn't he? I don't want him playing against us without Toby to snuff him out frankly. He's having a decent season but I think they prefer the movement up front of the other two. Carroll is a handy player though, and he has good feet too for a big lad, he's not the clogger he's made out to be. Crouchesque really. West Ham's only fit centre back Tomkins broke his nose yesterday apparently, though is expected to be fit for Wednesday. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 If WHU don't want Carroll, he would be great as competition for Pelle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 They are a much better side when Carroll doesn't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 After decades of Blowing f*cking Bubbles, West Ham have finally got a decent Song. Saints 1 - 1 West Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 If WHU don't want Carroll, he would be great as competition for Pelle. No thanks. Goes down like a bag of sh!te every challenge and whinges to the ref nonstop. Big Pony Tailed Girls Blouse ... an insult to all Hairy Ar$ed, Beer Gutted Tab Smoking Geordies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Malvo Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 No thanks. Goes down like a bag of sh!te every challenge and whinges to the ref nonstop. So a mix of Mane and Pelle .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Their fans much prefer it when Carroll and Nolan don't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Their fans much prefer it when Carroll and Nolan don't play. I think all fans of football prefer it when Carroll and Nolan don't play. They're very much players from the 'old West Ham' style; I much prefer the way they actually try to pass the ball more than twice in a row now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 West Ham have now sold out their allocation, they took the full amount 3100 and are offering free coach travel to the game for their fans http://www.whufc.com/articles/20150114/v-southampton-a_2236896_4417684 although i can't imagine Cass Pennant taking advantage of that offer. should be a good atmosphere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Very well supported are West Ham, they rarely don't sell out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Theres not a lot of difference between Davis and JWP for me right now, Davis slightly pips him. But yes its good to have both morgan and Vic back, not that I necessarily see a game against WHU as requiring a formidable midfield considering their ability to byepass it. Yoshi is solid but not as dynamic going forward, I personally think Targett will be ok and play Did you spot who was screaming for the ball as he hammered up the pitch in the 93rd minute before passing through to Mane for the winning goal? Yup - you guessed - your very own "undynamic" Yoshi...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 With the 3 pts at QPR, at least we " recovered " 3rd place, but regardless of the performance of others, our next 2 home games will help us retain that spot, and both games are highly winnable. I don't think there is the same sort of " pressure " on the Saints squad, as we are already outperforming everyone's expectations, but the "so-called " big clubs " (still under us) will really feel the heat from their fans who are used to Euro football and don't take to disappointments so easily. Both WHam and Liverpool are used to playimg open football and this is to our favour and could be their downfall.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 He's having a decent season but I think they prefer the movement up front of the other two. Carroll is a handy player though, and he has good feet too for a big lad, he's not the clogger he's made out to be. Crouchesque really. West Ham's only fit centre back Tomkins broke his nose yesterday apparently, though is expected to be fit for Wednesday. Shame. Supposedly Reid and Collins are also fit for midweek. Tomkins has dodgy hamstrings and might not be fit for 3 games in 6 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Did you spot who was screaming for the ball as he hammered up the pitch in the 93rd minute before passing through to Mane for the winning goal? Yup - you guessed - your very own "undynamic" Yoshi...... Sobering thought of the day: so far Yoshi has more assists as left back than Luke Shaw has had in his PL career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Can see a draw... 2-2. I don't think we're untouchable and invulnerable to teams like West Ham in particular. In fact I am less certain of a positive result than if we were playing Manure. It really will depend on whether we're able to get the ball moving quickly to Mane and Elia...Wetsham do have the midfield to catch us in possession, but worse still I really hope it doesn't slide into a hoofing match so our midfield gets bypassed. On another note, anyone know when our new striker can play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 (edited) WHU fans views. In among the "hope we smash those ****s!" comments it's interesting to see the divide between those who think the FA cup is more important than the league (and vice verse). More than happy for them to put out a weakend team on Wednesday in preparation for the FA cup game (not sure big Sam rolls like that TBH) http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=156989&sid=33557abe3f18724d47ade462061980ad Edited 10 February, 2015 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Can see a draw... 2-2. I don't think we're untouchable and invulnerable to teams like West Ham in particular. In fact I am less certain of a positive result than if we were playing Manure. It really will depend on whether we're able to get the ball moving quickly to Mane and Elia...Wetsham do have the midfield to catch us in possession, but worse still I really hope it doesn't slide into a hoofing match so our midfield gets bypassed. On another note, anyone know when our new striker can play? I thought the new bloke was a attacking midfielder? (i.e. replacement for Davis/JWP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 I thought the new bloke was a attacking midfielder? (i.e. replacement for Davis/JWP) Ramirez 2.0 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 We'll win this. Strong side available to Koeman less Toby. In Mane we trust, our long lost striker returneth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 I feel like we need at least a couple of goals in this game along with a strong defensive perfomance, I can just see heads dropping if our standard of football continues in its current slump. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised with a boring 0-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Sobering thought of the day: so far Yoshi has more assists as left back than Luke Shaw has had in his PL career. not to mention three times as many goals as JWP in considerably less appearances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 9 February, 2015 Share Posted 9 February, 2015 Forster Clyne Fonte Yoshida Targett Wanyama Schneiderlin Mane JWP Elia Pelle We need Wanyama and Scheiderlin otherwise Song will have too much influence. Their defence looked vulnerable to people running at them against MU, need Elia and Mane on the end of things, big role for JWP but he's up to it, more than Tadic at the moment. Having Tadic, Davis, Reed and Djuricic on the bench suddenly makes things look stronger. Target tweeted that he had headaches on Sunday. The minimum recommended time for playing again after a concussion is five days after the symptoms stop. If Targett plays on Wednesday the club is being grossly irresponsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Target tweeted that he had headaches on Sunday. The minimum recommended time for playing again after a concussion is five days after the symptoms stop. If Targett plays on Wednesday the club is being grossly irresponsible. That is if he had concussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 That is if he had concussion? Given his symptoms, he had a concussion or, if he didn't, there is no way to tell so you have to treat him like he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 I think the reputation West Ham is a bit undeserved this year - I agree in previous seasons that they have been direct, but in a fairness to Big Sam he has listened to the criticism and has responded. I think they play decent stuff, with quick, exciting strikers, and they seem to get the ball to Song and Downing's feet when they can. I would rather they did well than the 'big teams' just below us - Man U, Tottenham, Arsenal and Liverpool. Don't get me wrong, I hope we smash em on Wednesday, but if they finished 5th just behind us, would have no problem with that. The statistics show they are as direct and long ball as they ever have been - the difference is that they now have better players / more quality on the ball in playing that way so are having more success. I don't think there is a wrong or right way to play football personally, and that teams should give themselves the best chance they have of winning a game - I don't mind the way West Ham play at all but they don't set-up to pass the ball. They are direct and strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 The statistics show they are as direct and long ball as they ever have been - the difference is that they now have better players / more quality on the ball in playing that way so are having more success. I don't think there is a wrong or right way to play football personally' date=' and that teams should give themselves the best chance they have of winning a game - I don't mind the way West Ham play at all but they don't set-up to pass the ball. They are direct and strong.[/quote'] Disagree, I think they are playing much better football this year in the games I've watched. (I don't doubt you have statistics to back up your direct claims but I don't see it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Did you spot who was screaming for the ball as he hammered up the pitch in the 93rd minute before passing through to Mane for the winning goal? Yup - you guessed - your very own "undynamic" Yoshi...... Ha, well said, and as usual someone has caught SS spouting BS to any and everyone who will listen. Also can't get over the number of people who would drop JWP, his assists were key at upton park! Plus our set pieces are literally horrendous without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Disagree, I think they are playing much better football this year in the games I've watched. (I don't doubt you have statistics to back up your direct claims but I don't see it). I seem to remember seeing stats that showed us pretty high up in the Long Ball stakes as well, but probably most of those would have been Morgan's 40 yard Ping to the feet of an overlapping defender/ wideman, which to be fair to WHU this season they seem to be doing more of, rather than the aimless hoof up the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Given his symptoms, he had a concussion or, if he didn't, there is no way to tell so you have to treat him like he did. Daily Echo reporting that Targett needs a week to recover from his concussion. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/11781904.Yoshida_is_Koeman_s_man_to_solve_crisis/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Daily Echo reporting that Targett needs a week to recover from his concussion. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/11781904.Yoshida_is_Koeman_s_man_to_solve_crisis/ Talking to yourself? I think you might need a little time off as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Talking to yourself? I think you might need a little time off as well I do. But not because of a concussion and, in any case, it isn't happening for at least a month. But we really need to win this week so I am not too depressed to get back to work Wednesday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 West Ham United FC @whufc_official SA: "Out of the injured players Andy Carroll is the only player who might make it, it's touch and go. We'll see how he is tomorrow." SA: "James Tomkins broke his nose on Sunday but he should be available to play." SA: "A win against Southampton would be fantastic but we're taking each game as it comes. If we play like we did on Sunday, we'll do well." SA: "Southampton played on Saturday, they've had an extra day's rest. It's all about our grit and determination that we showed on Sunday." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 West Ham United FC @whufc_official SA: "Out of the injured players Andy Carroll is the only player who might make it, it's touch and go. We'll see how he is tomorrow." SA: "James Tomkins broke his nose on Sunday but he should be available to play." SA: "A win against Southampton would be fantastic but we're taking each game as it comes. If we play like we did on Sunday, we'll do well." SA: "Southampton played on Saturday, they've had an extra day's rest. It's all about our grit and determination that we showed on Sunday." Who are their other injured players? Reid and Collins? Can't be easy being a Centre Back playing with a broken nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Big Sam interviewed by the PA and said he's watched out last home defeat and hopes to emulate swanseas game plan "They've lost their last home game. We've studied that and hope to do something similar". So they're going to sit back and hit us on the break and then sit back again... I think we will force them to play with an early goal. The starting 11 that West Ham have "studied": Forster, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida (centre back), Bertrand, Reed, Davis, Ward-Prowse, Tadić, Elia, Pellè The probable starting 11 vs West Ham: Forster, Clyne, Fonte, Gardos, Yoshida (left back), Schneiderlin, Wanyama, Davis, Mané, Elia, Pellè So, that's nearly half the team different from the Swansea game. In other words, they've been revising biology before taking a chemistry exam (or some other slightly dodgy Trousers analogy).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 The starting 11 that West Ham have "studied": Forster, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida (centre back), Bertrand, Reed, Davis, Ward-Prowse, Tadić, Elia, Pellè The probable starting 11 vs West Ham: Forster, Clyne, Fonte, Gardos, Yoshida (left back), Schneiderlin, Wanyama, Davis, Mané, Elia, Pellè So, that's nearly half the team different from the Swansea game. In other words, they've been revising biology before taking a chemistry exam (or some other slightly dodgy Trousers analogy).... Sweet, they will sit back and allow us to be all over them and hope that we have a complete off day in front of goal. I'd take that scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 I've done a Q+A for their forum, anyone that's interested can read here: http://westhamonline.net/forum_flat.php?7765044||1|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Think you went a bit easy on them G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Think you went a bit easy on them G. Maybe you should post your answers to the questions here, and then he can link it on their forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Think you went a bit easy on them G. Too much of a nice guy B-dog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 @bigadamsport #saintsfc new loan signing Filip Djuricic has his work permit & @RonaldKoeman says he'll be in the squad v #WHUFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 Morgan doubt for tommorow, Targett out for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 February, 2015 Share Posted 10 February, 2015 @southamptonfc Koeman says @SchneiderlinMo4 is a doubt for tomorrow's game. #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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