Calum Chambers move to Arsenal to be investigated

[ART]

Interesting development. Maybe we'll get him back

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2941757/Calum-Chambers-Arsenal-set-investigated-FA.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

[SarniaSaint]

Was really p...ed off at the time.............but don't want him back............just another kn_b head.

[Bad Wolf]

Well if we got him back, presumably we'd have to give the money back. I'll take the money. Especially as we keep getting linked with that kid from Leeds for about 2 million as our 2nd choice right back.

[Mr Saints]

Only good enough for our bench. And their's.

[Matthew Le God]

Well if we got him back, presumably we'd have to give the money back. I'll take the money. Especially as we keep getting linked with that kid from Leeds for about 2 million as our 2nd choice right back.

 

Saints were reported to have had a bid of £4.5m turned down for Sam Byram.

[Gemmel]

It will be all about the "3rd" party...... someone else wants a slice. Nothing to do with the actual transfer.

[Crazy Diamond]

Was really p...ed off at the time.............but don't want him back............just another kn_b head.

 

Explain?

[angelman]

It will be all about the "3rd" party...... someone else wants a slice. Nothing to do with the actual transfer.

 

Bit of a strange one.

 

As soon as 3rd party is mentioned, I sort of have images of South American 3rd party ownership, which of course is illegal in PL and very unlikely to have been the case with CC at Soton. As the article says, the transfer was above board and "amicable", so a bit weird.....and intriguing.

[austsaint]

For no other reason than his Footballing ability and potential I would opt to keep the money and wish him well in his increasing role as bench warmer.

[angelman]

For no other reason than his Footballing ability and potential I would opt to keep the money and wish him well in his increasing role as bench warmer.

 

You think that little of him? I guess Wenger creamed himself over his performance last season in the 2-2 draw at SMS - he played a blinder. Wenger said he was taking a risk but he's not that bad surely? But, he seems only to have played 68 minutes in the last 6 league games with his last league start (and full 90 mins) back on 21st December. He did do the full 90 in the 3rd & 4th round.

[austsaint]

You think that little of him? I guess Wenger creamed himself over his performance last season in the 2-2 draw at SMS - he played a blinder. Wenger said he was taking a risk but he's not that bad surely? But, he seems only to have played 68 minutes in the last 6 league games with his last league start (and full 90 mins) back on 21st December. He did do the full 90 in the 3rd & 4th round.

 

No, I don't think that badly of CC, although I always thought that when Clyney was fit he should have been first pick at RB and his subsequent form bears that out. I just mean although he showed a lot of promise with us and hit the ground running with the Gunners for the first few months, the money we got for him is now looking to be good business. I know Chambers is young but it's hard to see him holding down a permanent spot in their side and who knows, when Wenger eventually does put his cue in the retirement rack, the new Manager might look beyond him too.

[Crazy Diamond]

You think that little of him? I guess Wenger creamed himself over his performance last season in the 2-2 draw at SMS - he played a blinder.

 

Exactly what I thought. He was up against Sagna, a player twice his size, and yet he outmuscled him and defended brilliantly.

 

I don't understand the hostility towards him from sections of our support. He's a good player, played well for us, and joined a bigger club.

[austsaint]

Exactly what I thought. He was up against Sagna, a player twice his size, and yet he outmuscled him and defended brilliantly.

 

I don't understand the hostility towards him from sections of our support. He's a good player, played well for us, and joined a bigger club.

 

I don't think anyone feels hostility towards CC (or Shaw, Lambert, maybe a bit towards Lallana and Lovren) and he played several blinders for Saints including that draw which no doubt influenced Wenger. It's just if it came down to having him back or keeping the money the preference seems clearcut.

[Crazy Diamond]

I don't think anyone feels hostility towards CC (or Shaw, Lambert, maybe a bit towards Lallana and Lovren) and he played several blinders for Saints including that draw which no doubt influenced Wenger. It's just if it came down to having him back or keeping the money the preference seems clearcut.

 

Home and away he's been booed by some of our fans, there were some downright bizarre comments for him at the Emirates the other month.

[Fan The Flames]

People are hostile to CC, he jumped ship at the first opportunity. The one thing that kept us going in the summer when our established talent was lining up to leave was the thought that we had some good kids that would slip into their places, afterall they would owe us a bit of loyalty, yes. We got a good fee for him and thats meant to make it alright in their eyes.

 

I couldn't give a **** if he plays badly or well fir Arsenal but I love it every time that little **** slips up and gives away another goal.

[Patrick Bateman]

******** to him, he left, we got some cash, couldn't care less how does in the future.

[red&white56]

As others have said the hostility comes from the fact that we expect some loyalty from academy players, not for them to jump ship at the first opportunity.

 

For me we sold him once, why would we want him back??? Keep the money!

[david in sweden]

.......have read several reports on this, although the FA is refusing to divulge details, but it seems that it may affect Arsenal's position rather than Saints'. It was generated by " a third party" complaint .

 

One line suggested that Calum's step-father, who is employed by " his agent(s)" has some involvement in the affair. Although Saints' seem to be clear of any wrongdoing.

 

If clubs are found guilty of misconduct, there could be a " six-figure fine, and / or points deducution."

 

A financial penalty would be " small potatoes " to Arsenal whereas clearly, a points deduction would seriously harm either club's Euro chances.

[CB Saint]

As others have said the hostility comes from the fact that we expect some loyalty from academy players, not for them to jump ship at the first opportunity.

 

For me we sold him once, why would we want him back??? Keep the money!

 

too right , he's not worth £16m anymore

[Sour Mash]

Home and away he's been booed by some of our fans, there were some downright bizarre comments for him at the Emirates the other month.

The most bizarre thing was people booing Chambers, but then applauding Walcott & Chamberlain.

[Pancake]

Bit of a strange one.

 

As soon as 3rd party is mentioned, I sort of have images of South American 3rd party ownership, which of course is illegal in PL and very unlikely to have been the case with CC at Soton. As the article says, the transfer was above board and "amicable", so a bit weird.....and intriguing.

 

Wonder exactly what NC had written in to the youth contracts...

[Wes Tender]

 

A financial penalty would be " small potatoes " to Arsenal whereas clearly, a points deduction would seriously harm either club's Euro chances.

 

Has the FA found a way to stop us getting one of the CL places at the expense of one of their darling teams?

[Verbal Kint]

The most bizarre thing was people booing Chambers, but then applauding Walcott & Chamberlain.

 

Most supporters don't see things in black and white and they can understand players leaving us for Arsenal when we were in the lower leagues and Walcott in particular ensured we got a good fee for him when he could, from memory, have done the dirty on us and gone for a minimal fee as he was only 16.

 

CC was given the chance of playing regular premier league football in a top half side and left after 22 appearances. I think we deserved more from him

[Saint_clark]

Just sounds like a greedy agent thinking he was due more than he received.

If the above is true about points deductions, it would be a bit suspicious if we are found guilty of something out of the blue and deducted points.

[Redslo]

I can't imagine what we might have done wrong that would warrant punishment. If the transfer was invalid, it was Arsenal that played the ineligible player. There can be no question of third party ownership since he came from the academy. If someone else thinks they have a financial claim, they can take it to court.

[DT]

Walcott and Chamberlain are good lads. I even remember them making the effort to come and applaud our fans at the end of one of the games at the Emirates I was at. Remember thinking that was classy at the time. Chambers is less of a good egg, I suspect, and anyone who's heard him in interview will appreciate that may come from his relatively tiny brain.

[Dan]

Walcott and Chamberlain are good lads. I even remember them making the effort to come and applaud our fans at the end of one of the games at the Emirates I was at. Remember thinking that was classy at the time. Chambers is less of a good egg, I suspect, and anyone who's heard him in interview will appreciate that may come from his relatively tiny brain.

 

Was easy enough for them do that after thumping us 6-1, doubt they would have bothered if we had got any sort of result.

[Barry the Badger]

Walcott and Chamberlain are good lads. I even remember them making the effort to come and applaud our fans at the end of one of the games at the Emirates I was at. Remember thinking that was classy at the time. Chambers is less of a good egg, I suspect, and anyone who's heard him in interview will appreciate that may come from his relatively tiny brain.

 

Walcott and Chamberlain must be ****ing themselves at being able to placate a load of numptys just by giving them a bit of a clap. Chambers has a lot to learn in the patronising fan appeasing nonsense department clearly.

[DT]

Christ. Slagging them off for being nice now. I give up.

[Verbal Kint]

Was easy enough for them do that after thumping us 6-1, doubt they would have bothered if we had got any sort of result.

 

Incorrect. Chamberlain did the same this year after the cup game that we won

[LGTL]

They couldn't wait to leave at the first opportunity and a patronising clap isn't going to change that.

[JackanorySFC]

Was easy enough for them do that after thumping us 6-1, doubt they would have bothered if we had got any sort of result.

 

TBF Walcott in particular made an effort after the 2-0 New Years Day game we won. For me anyway, Theo leaving helped the club, people forget he was touted as the best 14/15 then 16 year old in Europe, was being scouted by every big club on the continent and could have left at 16. He didn't, he signed the contract in his 17th birthday allowing us to get some decent money when Arsenal came in for him. A move most people at the time thought would be good for his development. Unfortunately his injuries have stifled his development, when fit he's a true big game match winner that has turned it on for England and in the Champions League.

 

I think the Ox was tainted by his old man obviously pushing for a big move, saw the reception Theo always gets here and does the same as him, applauding the fans etc. However the £12m we got for Ox allowed us to invest the money to get us back to the Premier League, good for him, good for us.

 

Chambers left when we were an established top 10 side, offering first team football and International recognition. Completely different circumstances to TW and AOC in my opinion.

[aintforever]

Chambers left when we were an established top 10 side, offering first team football and International recognition. Completely different circumstances to TW and AOC in my opinion.

 

This, plus Chambers looks like smug ***t with a w@nkers haircut.

[Sour Mash]

Walcott and Chamerlain jumped ship when we were in the lower leagues.

What difference does that make? Club gets offer they are happy with and player is happy with, all agree to the move, what diffence does it make which league we're in. Chambers/Chamberlain/Walcott, all the same.

[david in sweden]

Has the FA found a way to stop us getting one of the CL places at the expense of one of their darling teams?

 

ERR.......I wasn't going to print that, but the thought did go through my mind, too ......

[RedArmy]

I don't hold a grudge against Chambers. If it wasn't for him jumping ship, it would have been very likely that Schneiderlin would've been allowed to leave. I know who I'd rather have in the side.

[Crazy Diamond]

Typical football fan logic on here combined with some personal insults. Brilliant.

[Goatboy]

I really think we should all move on from the hatred of ex-Saints. It doesn't serve much of a purpose.

Players and managers move on. That is just the nature of football.

That said, I think Lovren is a f**king tw*t and Lallana can kiss my sweaty arse.

C*nts.

[Toomer]

IMO the only that should get it large is Lovren, the others I can live but the way Lovren engineered his move shows what a merchant banker he is.

[JackanorySFC]

IMO the only that should get it large is Lovren, the others I can live but the way Lovren engineered his move shows what a merchant banker he is.

 

Nah, £a££ana the worst of the lot by a mile. Supposed to be our Captain and leader but let us down when we needed him most, a matter of months aftergoing on record saying he'd happily end his career at Saints. Then using the threat of going on strike to push through the move? Not having him. We aren't a nasty club, the people that run SFC are a decent bunch. The lack of thanks/ a statement when £a££ana left said it all IMO. Wrongun.

 

No problem with Chambers TBH, Shaw either (although I'd have love the club to really fight to keep them as proof of a future full of Academy players). Lambert good luck to him. Lovren just summed up what we should all expect from foreign mercenary players and I'm loving the fact he is being found out without Morgan and Wanyama in front to protect him.

[Verbal Kint]

Nah, £a££ana the worst of the lot by a mile. Supposed to be our Captain and leader but let us down when we needed him most, a matter of months aftergoing on record saying he'd happily end his career at Saints. Then using the threat of going on strike to push through the move? Not having him. We aren't a nasty club, the people that run SFC are a decent bunch. The lack of thanks/ a statement when £a££ana left said it all IMO. Wrongun.

 

No problem with Chambers TBH, Shaw either (although I'd have love the club to really fight to keep them as proof of a future full of Academy players). Lambert good luck to him. Lovren just summed up what we should all expect from foreign mercenary players and I'm loving the fact he is being found out without Morgan and Wanyama in front to protect him.

 

This. Although i think Chambers and Shaw should have given us one more season

[Crazy Diamond]

Nah, £a££ana the worst of the lot by a mile. Supposed to be our Captain and leader but let us down when we needed him most, a matter of months aftergoing on record saying he'd happily end his career at Saints. Then using the threat of going on strike to push through the move? Not having him. We aren't a nasty club, the people that run SFC are a decent bunch. The lack of thanks/ a statement when £a££ana left said it all IMO. Wrongun.

 

No problem with Chambers TBH, Shaw either (although I'd have love the club to really fight to keep them as proof of a future full of Academy players). Lambert good luck to him. Lovren just summed up what we should all expect from foreign mercenary players and I'm loving the fact he is being found out without Morgan and Wanyama in front to protect him.

 

If we're talking about academy graduates only then I can pretty much agree with this, if not most of the rest of the thread. Lovren was a disgrace.

[Saint_clark]

This. Although i think Chambers and Shaw should have given us one more season

 

Chambers yes, but Shaw had already given us the 'one extra season'.

[The9]

I can't see how Saints could be in any way at fault in selling a player they didn't really want to sell, so I'm pretty sure any punishment would be aimed in the buying club's direction.

 

As for "waaah waah the FA (sic) don't want us in Europe", why would the FA care? The audit trail of money from the Champions League goes pretty much nowhere near them, and the national coefficient isn't going to get hammered by Saints any more than from Hull, Swansea, Wigan and Millwall qualifying for Europe in the past 12 years.

 

Even the Premier League (who have nothing to do with the punishment) should see Saints' success as an opportunity to market a "new" top brand and an "exciting underdog success story" to their international audience rather than the endless dirge of the same 4 clubs winning stuff.

[Patrick Bateman]

This. Although i think Chambers and Shaw should have given us one more season

 

But then so should Chamberlain who couldn't wait to join Arsenal and people applaud!? I don't see the difference.

He could have been an even better player had he given Saints another year of first team football.

[The Cat]

But then so should Chamberlain who couldn't wait to join Arsenal and people applaud!? I don't see the difference.

He could have been an even better player had he given Saints another year of first team football.

 

I agree. Plus we'd have won the Championship if he was in the team. Yes we got promoted, but I just want to see us win a bloody trophy other than the sodding JPT.

 

Personally I don't clap or boo any of them. I might laugh at them if they fall over, miss an easy shot or misplace a pass but that's it.

[The9]

Personally I was fine clapping Theo the first time and never had any time for Oxlade-Chamberlain's impatient jump out of the forthcoming Championship season into the England squad. Chambers wasn't even worth acknowledgement, Shaw the same, Lambert got a cheer at Anfield, Lovren got hammered, Lallana will get hammered at St Mary's unless he "chicken judas"es playing in the match.

 

Two things struck me as interesting from that article: to see that Oxlade-Chamberlain's father has just taken over as his agent (again?), so keep an eye out for him agitating for a move soon, and secondly that Chambers' agency has a policy of not speaking to the media - given that some of their job is literally to promote him in the media.

[Verbal Kint]

Chambers yes, but Shaw had already given us the 'one extra season'.

 

yeah fair enough. My mistake. I've never had much of an issue with Shaw or Chambers really. They both kept their mouth shut and got on with it, unlike 2 others in particular

 

But then so should Chamberlain who couldn't wait to join Arsenal and people applaud!? I don't see the difference.

He could have been an even better player had he given Saints another year of first team football.

 

He probably would, but he was a lower league player at the time being offered a chance to join Arsenal. It's slightly more understandable than Chambers who was playing for a side who had just finished 8th in the Premier League.

[Patrick Bateman]

Personally I was fine clapping Theo the first time and never had any time for Oxlade-Chamberlain's impatient jump out of the forthcoming Championship season into the England squad. Chambers wasn't even worth acknowledgement, Shaw the same, Lambert got a cheer at Anfield, Lovren got hammered, Lallana will get hammered at St Mary's unless he "chicken judas"es playing in the match.

 

Two things struck me as interesting from that article: to see that Oxlade-Chamberlain's father has just taken over as his agent (again?), so keep an eye out for him agitating for a move soon, and secondly that Chambers' agency has a policy of not speaking to the media - given that some of their job is literally to promote him in the media.

 

Interesting, didn't know that! What odds he'll end up at Man Utd then? Or Liverpool who seem to never have enough attacking midfielders.

 

The only thing I DO think is a shame is that I don't think he's developed enough at Arsenal, not as much as he should have. Theo has been injured a lot but is still a very good player on his day, Alex I'm not sure about.

[Dark Munster]

Most supporters don't see things in black and white and they can understand players leaving us for Arsenal when we were in the lower leagues and Walcott in particular ensured we got a good fee for him when he could, from memory, have done the dirty on us and gone for a minimal fee as he was only 16.

 

CC was given the chance of playing regular premier league football in a top half side and left after 22 appearances. I think we deserved more from him

 

Exactly.

 

TBF Walcott in particular made an effort after the 2-0 New Years Day game we won. For me anyway, Theo leaving helped the club, people forget he was touted as the best 14/15 then 16 year old in Europe, was being scouted by every big club on the continent and could have left at 16. He didn't, he signed the contract in his 17th birthday allowing us to get some decent money when Arsenal came in for him. A move most people at the time thought would be good for his development. Unfortunately his injuries have stifled his development, when fit he's a true big game match winner that has turned it on for England and in the Champions League.

 

I think the Ox was tainted by his old man obviously pushing for a big move, saw the reception Theo always gets here and does the same as him, applauding the fans etc. However the £12m we got for Ox allowed us to invest the money to get us back to the Premier League, good for him, good for us.

 

Chambers left when we were an established top 10 side, offering first team football and International recognition. Completely different circumstances to TW and AOC in my opinion.

 

Exactly.

 

What difference does that make? Club gets offer they are happy with and player is happy with, all agree to the move, what diffence does it make which league we're in. Chambers/Chamberlain/Walcott, all the same.

 

Disagree.