Yuki Posted 4 February, 2015 Posted 4 February, 2015 I can't see Toby Alderweld in any of the training photos, so hopefully another chance for Maya to show his qualitees.
Saint_Tony Posted 4 February, 2015 Posted 4 February, 2015 We should be nearly back to full strength. I'm not interested in what QPR are doing, we must beat them. There can be no excuses. This is our biggest game in nearly 3 years. Let's hope we play like it is. Going to go for a 2-1 win, Mane and Dunne og. Defeat is absolutely unthinkable, so nervous already
Rasiak-9- Posted 4 February, 2015 Posted 4 February, 2015 Do we know if MS and VW are back for sure yet? They're absolutely vital.
Smirking_Saint Posted 4 February, 2015 Posted 4 February, 2015 Yuki said: I can't see Toby Alderweld in any of the training photos, so hopefully another chance for Maya to show his qualitees. I agree with glasgow No need to stress Toby's hammy if we dont have to either, maya is more than capable and Gardos is on the bench. I dont know 'how' fit Vic and Morgan are yet either
sotonist Posted 4 February, 2015 Posted 4 February, 2015 Smirking_Saint said: I agree with glasgow No need to stress Toby's hammy if we dont have to either, maya is more than capable and Gardos is on the bench. I dont know 'how' fit Vic and Morgan are yet either if in doubt just give them each 45 minutes... oh... never mind.
cellone Posted 4 February, 2015 Posted 4 February, 2015 Saint_Tony said: This is our biggest game in nearly 3 years. Blimey!
Saint_Ash Posted 4 February, 2015 Posted 4 February, 2015 Saint_Tony said: We should be nearly back to full strength. I'm not interested in what QPR are doing, we must beat them. There can be no excuses. This is our biggest game in nearly 3 years. Let's hope we play like it is. Going to go for a 2-1 win, Mane and Dunne og. Defeat is absolutely unthinkable, so nervous already I suppose the season will be over eh if we lose?
Saint_Tony Posted 4 February, 2015 Posted 4 February, 2015 Saint_Ash said: I suppose the season will be over eh if we lose? Near enough, yes. Still a great season but it would be difficult to accept losing out on a top 4 spot having been in the race for so long. How some people think we might still have a chance if we lose on Saturday is beyond me.
Matthew Le God Posted 4 February, 2015 Posted 4 February, 2015 Saint_Tony said: How some people think we might still have a chance if we lose on Saturday is beyond me. At worse a loss this weekend would see Saints 3 points off 4th, a loss could also see Saints still 4th on Sunday evening. Why would that mean Saints wouldn't have a chance with 14 more games?
Saint_Tony Posted 4 February, 2015 Posted 4 February, 2015 Matthew Le God said: At worse a loss this weekend would see Saints 3 points off 4th, a loss could also see Saints still 4th on Sunday evening. Why would that mean Saints wouldn't have a chance with 14 more games? Because prior to the Swansea game, we needed to win around 2 out of every 3 games to have a chance of 4th, so losing a maximum of 5 from 16. So say we do lose saturday, do you honestly think we will get through 14 games only losing 3?
Matthew Le God Posted 4 February, 2015 Posted 4 February, 2015 (edited) Saint_Tony said: Because prior to the Swansea game, we needed to win around 2 out of every 3 games to have a chance of 4th, so losing a maximum of 5 from 16. So say we do lose saturday, do you honestly think we will get through 14 games only losing 3? I'll say it again... At worse a loss this weekend would see Saints 3 points off 4th, a loss could also see Saints still 4th on Sunday evening. I fail to see how that would give us no chance as you claim. Edited 4 February, 2015 by Matthew Le God
nta786 Posted 4 February, 2015 Posted 4 February, 2015 Matthew Le God said: I'll say it again... At worse a loss this weekend would see Saints 3 points off 4th, a loss could also see Saints still 4th on Sunday evening. I fail to see how that would give us no chance as you claim. MLG. If we lose on Saturday, there is no way we could be fourth on Sunday evening- we will drop out of the top 4. Check your facts son. If we lose and Arsenal win or draw, they will overtake us, or if we lose and Spurs win, then they will overtake us too and go into fourth.
Matthew Le God Posted 4 February, 2015 Posted 4 February, 2015 nta786 said: MLG. If we lose on Saturday, there is no way we could be fourth on Sunday evening- we will drop out of the top 4. Check your facts son. If we lose and Arsenal win or draw, they will overtake us, or if we lose and Spurs win, then they will overtake us too and go into fourth. My general point still stands, we'd still be close enough to 4th for it to be odd to completely write us off as Saint_Tony has stated.
SaintTex Posted 4 February, 2015 Posted 4 February, 2015 Q: how many match days this season have we not gone into the match in at least 5th position or higher in the table? A: 2 that's pretty incredible.
SaintTex Posted 4 February, 2015 Posted 4 February, 2015 2nd place - six times 3rd place - six times 4th place - five times 5th place - four times 13th place - one time 14th place - one time
AussieDog Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 If we lose and Tottenham win we will slip out of 4th place, but we still have to play them at our place so it would still be in our hands. If Arsenal win....well it does make it that much harder. I just can't wish Spurs to win though, so a draw it is (even though that puts Arsenal above us if we lose) Having said that...I think we will win 3-1
Saint_Tony Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Matthew Le God said: I'll say it again... At worse a loss this weekend would see Saints 3 points off 4th, a loss could also see Saints still 4th on Sunday evening. I fail to see how that would give us no chance as you claim. I fail to see how you've failed to answer my question. If we lose on saturday, do you think we will lose no more than 3 games for the rest of the season?
Bwanamakubwa Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 It will be difficult Saint_Tony no question. Just try re-wording it differently to your original "how some people think we might still have a chance if we lose Saturday" which is where MLG is going from. Of course we have a chance, if not all that big.
scotty Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Tony's right though. If we don't beat QPR on Saturday after losing at home to Swansea, we can pretty much kiss goodbye to top 4. And while Aussie is right that if we lose and spurs win then they still have us to play, well if we can't beat QPR then we're unlikely to turn spurs over.
Bwanamakubwa Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 We lost to Burnley and a few weeks later beat arsenal. Point being, football doesn't work quite as clearly as you're suggesting. I do agree though its very difficult
GarrettIvo Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Best to stop worrying about what other teams do and focus on the only thing we (the team that is) can control.
hutch Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 scotty said: Tony's right though. If we don't beat QPR on Saturday after losing at home to Swansea, we can pretty much kiss goodbye to top 4. And while Aussie is right that if we lose and spurs win then they still have us to play, well if we can't beat QPR then we're unlikely to turn spurs over. Funnily enough I said exactly the same thing to myself after the West Brom game back in August.
dubai_phil Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Nailed on loss on Saturday. The Dubai Massive are (FINALLY) having their much postponed 40 point party before the game with fine dining by Eric & sponsored by Heineken & OSH. Which means we'll all break our usual "lucky" routines for getting down the pub to watch the match. It was such a simple plan, nailed on 3 pointer against 'twitchy and then we go and get new manager syndrome as well. Ho hum. With so many players coming back I doubt that RK will want them all on the pitch at the same time in case of stamina/match fitness/reactions so would expect to see only one of MS/VW making a start alongside the ever improving Harry Read. Big decision is whether we need to have two DM's against the unbalanced midfield of QPR in which case I'd go with this. Personally I don't think we'd need them so would go with Morgan as lone DM and Davis JWP in CM with the wide players more in support of Pelle. But then I know sod all, would actually like to see Mane play up alongside Pelle in a more 4-4-2 (4-4-1-1) formation as I think that is his strongest position & he scares CB's to death and would also give Caulker two different problems to cope with. ..................... Forster...... Clyne......Fonte......Maya........Targett .................VW/Morgan............ Tadic...Davis...JWP........Elia ..............Mane.................... ..............Pelle....................... Subs: KD VW/MS, Gardos, Read, Djuricic, McCarthy, Seager/Gallagher On the positive side it will be on live streams but not on Sky so maybe Eric will finally see us win this season in the EPL at the Pub after all. In which case Sunday is cancelled
StratfordSaint Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Any suggestions for a pub to watch the spurs v aresenal match before game and poss scouser derby afterwards? My train times mean I will have a lot of pub time in between and http://www.footballgroundguide.com/queens_park_rangers/ says no pubs close to the ground, have to go up to Shepherds Bush (which means a longs walk or buses/tubes again).
Lets B Avenue Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 dubai_phil said: Nailed on loss on Saturday. The Dubai Massive are (FINALLY) having their much postponed 40 point party before the game with fine dining by Eric & sponsored by Heineken & OSH. Which means we'll all break our usual "lucky" routines for getting down the pub to watch the match. It was such a simple plan, nailed on 3 pointer against 'twitchy and then we go and get new manager syndrome as well. Ho hum. With so many players coming back I doubt that RK will want them all on the pitch at the same time in case of stamina/match fitness/reactions so would expect to see only one of MS/VW making a start alongside the ever improving Harry Read. Big decision is whether we need to have two DM's against the unbalanced midfield of QPR in which case I'd go with this. Personally I don't think we'd need them so would go with Morgan as lone DM and Davis JWP in CM with the wide players more in support of Pelle. But then I know sod all, would actually like to see Mane play up alongside Pelle in a more 4-4-2 (4-4-1-1) formation as I think that is his strongest position & he scares CB's to death and would also give Caulker two different problems to cope with. ..................... Forster...... Clyne......Fonte......Maya........Targett .................VW/Morgan............ Tadic...Davis...JWP........Elia ..............Mane.................... ..............Pelle....................... Subs: KD VW/MS, Gardos, Read, Djuricic, McCarthy, Seager/Gallagher On the positive side it will be on live streams but not on Sky so maybe Eric will finally see us win this season in the EPL at the Pub after all. In which case Sunday is cancelled Don't think we are allowed to start with 12 on the pitch.
Bearsy Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Grigsy said: Dubai Phil = helmet I like you, Grigsy. You talk a lot of sense
Saint Charlie Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Going by the training pics Wanyama and Schneiderlin will be fine. Toby and Djuricic not training. Djuricic probably has to sort documentation I reckon.
Shroppie Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Lets B Avenue said: Don't think we are allowed to start with 12 on the pitch. Always worth a try. Big clubs have 12 most of the time, counting the ref.
Sour Mash Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 StratfordSaint said: Any suggestions for a pub to watch the spurs v aresenal match before game and poss scouser derby afterwards? My train times mean I will have a lot of pub time in between and http://www.footballgroundguide.com/queens_park_rangers/ says no pubs close to the ground, have to go up to Shepherds Bush (which means a longs walk or buses/tubes again). Shephers Bush isn't a long walk at all.
Saint_Tony Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 scotty said: Tony's right though. If we don't beat QPR on Saturday after losing at home to Swansea, we can pretty much kiss goodbye to top 4. And while Aussie is right that if we lose and spurs win then they still have us to play, well if we can't beat QPR then we're unlikely to turn spurs over. It's a big if. Let's just hope we do win and stay on track.
trousers Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Koeman: "Toby needs one week more. He'll be available for the Liverpool game, not West Ham"
jasonb Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Victor and Spiderman back for QPR. Toby still out and won't make WHU midweek.
trousers Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 @SouthamptonFC: Koeman says Filip Djuričić will not be available for Saturday's game against @QPRFC as he waits for his work permit.
StratfordSaint Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Sour Mash said: Shephers Bush isn't a long walk at all. You're right, closer than I thought/remember according to google! That's what I'll do then, cheers.
hasper57saint Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Shroppie said: Always worth a try. Big clubs have 12 most of the time, counting the ref. As with Liverpool last night. In our case however we've often had 13 against us.
benjii Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Ok, so I would pick Forster Clyne - Font - Yoshi - Targett ----Victor------Morgan------ --Davis-----------------Elia- -------------Mane-------- ------------Pelle------------- A sort of 4-4-2, 4-3-3 hybrid depending on the pattern of the play. Bench: KD, Gardos, McCarthy, Reed, JWP, Tadic, Seager
Baird of the land Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Good news about Morgan and Vic. Hopefully both are fully recovered and can stay fit, now that we've lost some of our strength in that area. I'd go with Forster, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshi, Targett, Morgan, Vic, Davis, Elia, Tadic, Pelle. Bench Kelvin, Gardos, Reed, JWP, Mane, Seager, Isgrove
trousers Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 benjii said: Ok, so I would pick Forster Clyne - Font - Yoshi - Targett ----Victor------Morgan------ --Davis-----------------Elia- -------------Mane-------- ------------Pelle------------- A sort of 4-4-2, 4-3-3 hybrid depending on the pattern of the play. Bench: KD, Gardos, McCarthy, Reed, JWP, Tadic, Seager Yep, I'd go with the same, although I'm wondering if Koeman might put either Mane or Elia down as a sub to give him more impact off the bench. Either way, its good to have options again!
Saint Garrett Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Would be very tempted to start with Mane and Elia, Pelle up top, Tadic on the bench. However it leaves us pretty weak from the bench. If we get get ahead I think we'll see it out.
Saint Charlie Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Be suprised if JWP doesn't start, just because he usually does.
Saint Garrett Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Saint Charlie said: Be suprised if JWP doesn't start, just because he usually does. Said the same thing coming out of the ground on Sunday, however I don't see a place for him in the team at the moment - still not sure where he plays.
Ohio Saint Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 So Poch built the entire team at Saints, Started from scratch at Spurs.....Bloody hell, the Premier League must be a shambles with all these teams being so crap. I hope they get to work soon on making it the world's most followed League.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 I agree that Tadic should start on the bench, I'm not sure he is earning his starting place at the moment. For those saying that would leave us with less of an attacking option on the bench- probably true, but Tadic coming on as a sub worked out okay at Old Trafford.
Saint Garrett Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Has anyone got any spares? Mate who is a STH can now go and is after a ticket...
Saint_clark Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Any suggestions for pubs other than (what used to be) O'Neills? Walkabout has closed down, i think someone said.
The Cat Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 There's loads of pubs around Shepherds Bush. There's even a Brewdog pub on Goldhawk Road.
Saint Garrett Posted 5 February, 2015 Posted 5 February, 2015 Saint_clark said: Any suggestions for pubs other than (what used to be) O'Neills? Walkabout has closed down, i think someone said. There is the engineers weld which is decent but home fans only, just don't wear colours. We're going to drink in the Churchill Arms in Notting hill FWIW.
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