mynameisthehulk Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 As usual, there is a load of crap spouted on here. Yes, he is our 3rd best midfielder, but he doesn't want to be a back up so he won't sign a new contract! That is why we are getting some money for him now - what part of this is representative of the club handing something badly? Morgan is likely to go in the summer for sure - then we spend some of that money on buying a first team replacement.
trousers Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 None of the journalists in the broadcast section of the press conference asked Koeman about him. Perhaps they did in the written section, but that is currently under embargo. Its almost as if the journos had been asked by the club not to mention him...make of that what you will....
Saint Charlie Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 (edited) Alan Cork: Don't know where 3m is coming from,one thing is sure if he signs it is a bargain,75% less than the 6m they turned down in Aug. £1.5m then. Bit of a waste of £4.5m from what he has offered this season. Edited 30 January, 2015 by Saint Charlie
SNSUN Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Bye bye Jack. Thanks for everything. (That's not the most flattering photo though.)
Jimmy_D Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Anything to stop him.playing Sunday? Yeah, he wasn't signed before 12pm today, so can't get clearance to play this round of fixtures.
SNSUN Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Swansea play all the 'big' sides except Chelsea for the rest of the season. Let's hope Cork can help them take some points off them to aid in in our pursuit of top 4.
DJ_TOAST Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Shame to see him go but all the best to him. Would be good to see him say goodbye to the fans on Sunday, but doubt will happen.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Good signing for them. Sad to see him go but makes sense.
hutch Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Alan Cork: Don't know where 3m is coming from,one thing is sure if he signs it is a bargain,75% less than the 6m they turned down in Aug. £1.5m then. Bit of a waste of £4.5m from what he has offered this season. We gave them a 50% discount because they promised to take his old man as well.
benjii Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Apparently he's going to be on 24k.hk a week (GWFX).
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Good luck and thank you Jack! A fantastic, consistent and dependable player for us who played a big part in getting us back to the top. He will always get a great reception back at St. Mary's.
positivepete Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Thanks Jack. Two good spells at the club. I have enjoyed watching him play. Hope it works out, Swansea seem an ideal team for him to join.
SaintAndyB Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 There's got to be a replacement lined up surely. I just can't see Koeman letting him go so easily when we've got so many injuries. I really want somebody in now!!!
SaintRobbie Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Bye Jack. Thanks. Bring on the exciting replacement!
Baird of the land Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Very sad it's now official. It'll be very hard to replace him, let alone cheaply or at short notice imo.
Killers Knee Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Thanks to Jack and congratulations on his move, hope it all works out, he served us well.
John B Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Very sad it's now official. It'll be very hard to replace him, let alone cheaply or at short notice imo. You must be joking we are a top 6 club but Jack Cork is not the club will have somebody lined up
dronskisaint Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Been an excellent performer for us both spells and utterly reliable - Thanks Jack, you're going for an honourable reason and I hope you remember your time at Saints with as much pleasure as I, and a good many of my group of Saints fans remember yours. Good luck!
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 The mistake was not sorting his new deal in the summer. At the end of last season he mentioned a new deal and said he wanted to stay. Even if the club was unsure about him, why not protect the asset? It was more risky to take this approach in my opinion and now we've sold our backup defensive midfielder for a pittance. Cork would have had a very important role to play in the final half of the season and as good as Schneiderlin and Wanyama are, they do pick up a lot of injuries. Davis dropping back, or even Reed, are not half as good as Cork in that role in my opinion. Don't really see how this can be dressed up as anything other than a bit of a balls up. Not a massive one, but Saints haven't really got anything out of this other than selling a good player for dirt cheap and 2 days to source a replacement.
Baird of the land Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 You must be joking we are a top 6 club but Jack Cork is not the club will have somebody lined up Think you are the one who's joking.
Baird of the land Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 The mistake was not sorting his new deal in the summer. At the end of last season he mentioned a new deal and said he wanted to stay. Even if the club was unsure about him, why not protect the asset? It was more risky to take this approach in my opinion and now we've sold our backup defensive midfielder for a pittance. Cork would have had a very important role to play in the final half of the season and as good as Schneiderlin and Wanyama are, they do pick up a lot of injuries. Davis dropping back, or even Reed, are not half as good as Cork in that role in my opinion. Don't really see how this can be dressed up as anything other than a bit of a balls up. Not a massive one, but Saints haven't really got anything out of this other than selling a good player for dirt cheap and 2 days to source a replacement. Agree with every word. Poorly handled imo.
Matthew Le God Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Very sad it's now official. It'll be very hard to replace him, let alone cheaply or at short notice imo. Koeman confirmed his interest in Tonny Vilhena today.
Sour Mash Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 The mistake was not sorting his new deal in the summer. At the end of last season he mentioned a new deal and said he wanted to stay. Even if the club was unsure about him, why not protect the asset? It was more risky to take this approach in my opinion and now we've sold our backup defensive midfielder for a pittance. Cork would have had a very important role to play in the final half of the season and as good as Schneiderlin and Wanyama are, they do pick up a lot of injuries. Davis dropping back, or even Reed, are not half as good as Cork in that role in my opinion. Don't really see how this can be dressed up as anything other than a bit of a balls up. Not a massive one, but Saints haven't really got anything out of this other than selling a good player for dirt cheap and 2 days to source a replacement. I think Reed has looked pretty good of late, not far off Cork's level for me. Sad to see him go and not the best timing, bit not exactly the end of the world.
raynesparksaint Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 He'd be in the England team but for getting injured at a vital time. Bit of a stretch to say that IMO
Sour Mash Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Alan Cork: Don't know where 3m is coming from,one thing is sure if he signs it is a bargain,75% less than the 6m they turned down in Aug. £1.5m then. Bit of a waste of £4.5m from what he has offered this season. Would Jack Cork know what the club turned down for him in the summer?
John B Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Agree with every word. Poorly handled imo. Why was it poorly handled If the club wanted to keep him they would have given him a contract Cork was OK but not exceptional hardly a first team regular under either Roko or Mopo
Tommy Mulgrew Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Agree with posts 377 and 379. Good luck Jack and thanks for everything you gave for us.
simo Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 He was no Paul Wotton but her rarely let us down , good luck to him but his interview isn't the most inspired haha
NickG Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Of course we can't but it's an interesting one. Particularly as we appear to have targetted an unproven 20 year old who is unhappy with his lack of first team football to replace someone who is leaving due to his lack of certainty around first team football. Think you have pretty much answered your own question.. He is going because he is , what 26?, not sure and proven that he can do a job starting in the prem. However he is not good enough to start for us when fit, and (I appreciate this divides opinions) he may not even be the next in line, personally think Reed and JWP are considerably younger but already offer more....Reed more tenacious , JWP more likely to create. You could say he is too much of a jack of all trades. Early in the season there were a couple of games when Koeman didn't play both Wanyama and MS, and Cork still didn't play. I don't see he is likely to improve hugely at his age, but who knows. Whereas Reed and JWP are still babies and have potential to improve. He is a good player but not a top 6 level. He is ideal to have in the squad for cup and hopefully European games - but didn't want that role. This is to his credit - don't players get criticised for leaving to sit on the bench at big clubs? He has left to avoid that. Who would be happy with that role, and with potential to improve and make a difference when needed? A young proven player. If Morgan goes I would hope we would be more ambitious than to move Cork to the main midfielder.
Dig Dig Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Would Jack Cork know what the club turned down for him in the summer? His agent would for sure
Baird of the land Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Why was it poorly handled If the club wanted to keep him they would have given him a contract Cork was OK but not exceptional hardly a first team regular under either Roko or Mopo Not offering a contract in the summer thereby annoying the player, then offering him one a month ago is poorly handling the contract situation imo. Played more often than vic under Mopo. Played a fair amount this season considering he's been out injured since before Christmas.
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Good luck to him. He wanted first team football which we couldn't guarantee.
Sour Mash Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 His agent would for sure He might, he might not, depends on the circumstances. And wouldn't necessarily know the details behind any offer.
Badger Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 The mistake was not sorting his new deal in the summer. At the end of last season he mentioned a new deal and said he wanted to stay. Even if the club was unsure about him, why not protect the asset? It was more risky to take this approach in my opinion and now we've sold our backup defensive midfielder for a pittance. Cork would have had a very important role to play in the final half of the season and as good as Schneiderlin and Wanyama are, they do pick up a lot of injuries. Davis dropping back, or even Reed, are not half as good as Cork in that role in my opinion. Don't really see how this can be dressed up as anything other than a bit of a balls up. Not a massive one, but Saints haven't really got anything out of this other than selling a good player for dirt cheap and 2 days to source a replacement. Agree. Think we might very well regret this next season, when as expected we lose a couple of other players.
Saint Charlie Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 He might, he might not, depends on the circumstances. And wouldn't necessarily know the details behind any offer. Agents would know. If not from Saints then from the club making the offer. Unless we replace well then financially not a great deal.
Leicestersaint Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Thanks Jack - you have been great for us and I hope you have every success with Swansea (except when you play us!).
Dellman Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 We might get a nice surprise--and within 48hours! I doubt RK will let the squad weaken unless he has plan B ready to go
Dig Dig Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 He might, he might not, depends on the circumstances. And wouldn't necessarily know the details behind any offer. You'd have to be a pretty **** agent not to know the details of a bid for a player you represent.
Whitey Grandad Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Sad in some ways to see him go, but thanks for all his efforts. Let's see who we get in as a replacement
Sour Mash Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Agents would know. If not from Saints then from the club making the offer. Unless we replace well then financially not a great deal. Why would an agent know the details of any deal rejected outright by any club? Who has suggested its financially a great deal?
Sour Mash Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 You'd have to be a pretty **** agent not to know the details of a bid for a player you represent. Why?
CB Fry Posted 30 January, 2015 Posted 30 January, 2015 Why would an agent know the details of any deal rejected outright by any club? Who has suggested its financially a great deal? Far too many middle men/brokers etc for Jack not to know. Let's not be silly.
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