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It does indeed, I'm glad we finally agree.

 

I'm sure you will agree also that, using this logic, every team will score the same number of points for the remainder of the season. I'm looking forward to our Champions League campaign with great excitement.

I don't agree. Now we've got the momentous energy boost from being out of the cup I fully expect us to average four points per game for the rest of the season. It's all that wonderful rest we'll get.

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All in all a f'kin thoroughly miserable day.

 

Inept performances, gifting Palace acres, if not the Freedom of Southampton, to roam at will too often.Taking the lead twice, I thought we'd get a grip of the game and control it.But no, just ballsed it up.

 

I've been inclined to give the GK the benefit of the doubt in the face of some of the critiscim on here in the past,but he contributed to our downfall in style today.

 

The first one, Fraser Forecast should have held, and for the third, I can't imagine an average player like Chaw^nkmah or whatever his name is, just waltzing around Shilton nor Niemi with such ease. At £10m this is the standard of keeper he should be aspiring to. That said he was not alone in blame for that, Elia was dozing to needlessly allow them to take possession, and it should have been cleared before the final ball.

 

Tadic was pretty anonymous for much of the match, Elia as well for much of the first half. JWP's shooting.... Christ on a bike, how can he deliver a good dead ball from time to time but constantly ballooon it from the edge of the box. Defence often all at sea. Then Longs injury.

 

A34 closed on the way back up to Newbury as well.

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I wouldn't lose any sleep if I never saw Tadic in a Saints shirt again. Sorry but he was so woeful today.

 

He created 5 goals in one game against Sunderland and our first winner at Old Trafford for 27 years and you post that after one sh*t cup game?

 

The 4th top assister in the Premier League and you never want him to play for us again. Wow.

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All in all a f'kin thoroughly miserable day.

 

Inept performances, gifting Palace acres, if not the Freedom of Southampton, to roam at will too often.Taking the lead twice, I thought we'd get a grip of the game and control it.But no, just ballsed it up.

 

I've been inclined to give the GK the benefit of the doubt in the face of some of the critiscim on here in the past,but he contributed to our downfall in style today.

 

The first one, Fraser Forecast should have held, and for the third, I can't imagine an average player like Chaw^nkmah or whatever his name is, just waltzing around Shilton nor Niemi with such ease. At £10m this is the standard of keeper he should be aspiring to. That said he was not alone in blame for that, Elia was dozing to needlessly allow them to take possession, and it should have been cleared before the final ball.

 

Tadic was pretty anonymous for much of the match, Elia as well for much of the first half. JWP's shooting.... Christ on a bike, how can he deliver a good dead ball from time to time but constantly ballooon it from the edge of the box. Defence often all at sea. Then Longs injury.

 

A34 closed on the way back up to Newbury as well.

 

Your missus has probably got a headache too.

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He created 5 goals in one game against Sunderland and our first winner at Old Trafford for 27 years and you post that after one sh*t cup game?

 

The 4th top assister in the Premier League and you never want him to play for us again. Wow.

Fitzhugh's problem is he lives very much in the present, with no real historical perspective on the team.

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I wouldn't lose any sleep if I never saw Tadic in a Saints shirt again. Sorry but he was so woeful today.

 

Way over the top but its fair to ask what's up with him as he's underperformed for a while and not really shared in the same bounce back in form that the rest of the team has.

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Tadic can do whatever he wants for the rest of the season just for that winning goal and consequent scenes at OT.

Stupid thing to say will mean nothing if we finish down the league. He poss could had scored winning goal at wembley.

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BBC News sport section: 'The top 2 were knocked out of the FA Cup today'

 

Even when we lose we still don't exist in the media.

Give over, FFS. Man City and Chelsea knocked out of the cup is news. Saints getting knocked out of the cup is normal.

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Palace must be kicking themselves going through to the 5th round when they need to concentrate on staying up.

I worry how they can possibly cope with the crippling schedule ahead of them.

 

I imagine fourteen or fifteen of the Palace first team squad will be wheelchair bound by mid March.

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Give over, FFS. Man City and Chelsea knocked out of the cup is news. Saints getting knocked out of the cup is normal.

 

True, but we are 3rd in the league, wouldn't it have added to the whole shock FA cup weekend story by saying top 3?

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So, out of the top 8 in the prem, 4 went out of the cup today in games most neutral observers would have expected them to win at a canter. One drew 0-0 in a similar situation, and another did the same midweek against Cambridge. All of those could reasonably be seen as contenders for CL positions.

 

If anyone's considering betting on West Ham or Arsenal tomorrow, I'd consider that before forking your money over.

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Well, no.

 

If Man Utd had lost they would have been banging on about the top 4 losing. Anyway I'm not bothered enough to get into an argument with the forum's resident obsessive contrarian. We lost and we aren't Chelsea or Man City, I won't lose any sleep about it.

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I don't know if it was the aftermath of last weeks marathon, or that this is what life is like without Schneiderlin and Wanyama, but we completely lost control of midfield, and basic football skills. Palarse cut though us at will. Fair play to them. They deserved to go through.

 

My man of the match was Danns, for his own goal that made our debacle look better than it was.

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I worry how they can possibly cope with the crippling schedule ahead of them.

 

I imagine fourteen or fifteen of the Palace first team squad will be wheelchair bound by mid March.

It didn't hurt Wigan either when they went all the way and won it. Oh....

 

Actually CB I'm on your side, I'm also in the camp that wanted a good go at the cup. But RK fielded the strongest team possible, we didn't play well, Palace did, and as they say shit happens. I was much more pissed off last year against Sunderland.

 

Even though I wanted us to win, having fewer matches does increase our top 4 chances (Big Vic and Long getting injured is one example why extra cup matches can hurt you. Not to mention the extra yellow cards, and fatigue).

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I don't know if it was the aftermath of last weeks marathon, or that this is what life is like without Schneiderlin and Wanyama, but we completely lost control of midfield, and basic football skills. Palarse cut though us at will. Fair play to them. They deserved to go through.

 

My man of the match was Danns, for his own goal that made our debacle look better than it was.

 

How do you think Richard played?

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I worry how they can possibly cope with the crippling schedule ahead of them.

 

This joke is really good tbf. I'm not surprised you are persisting with it!

If they win the next round you could say something like "how is it possible that palace could win a cup game AND still play league games? Apparently we can't manage that..."

That would be a laugh.

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This joke is really good tbf. I'm not surprised you are persisting with it!

If they win the next round you could say something like "how is it possible that palace could win a cup game AND still play league games? Apparently we can't manage that..."

That would be a laugh.

 

Well there you go, I am making jokes. I just can't help being naturally hilarious.

 

But there are people, like you, who seriously and genuinely believe that being knocked out of the cup is, in itself, some boost to our league campaign. Which is the best joke of the lot.

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Well there you go, I am making jokes. I just can't help being naturally hilarious.

 

But there are people, like you, who seriously and genuinely believe that being knocked out of the cup is, in itself, some boost to our league campaign. Which is the best joke of the lot.

 

I do actually quite like some of your posts!

Not this one though. Too many commas.

 

Cheer up matey, we're still one of the best clubs in the country, and the skates lost! f*** the cups!

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On a separate issue, why is our game being shown after a 0-0 draw?

 

It's a good point.

 

Especially as our game is one of the "top 3 out of the cup" huge sporting news story that the whole nation has been talking about. Weird it is so far down the running order.

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Stupid thing to say will mean nothing if we finish down the league. He poss could had scored winning goal at wembley.

 

This seems more of an odd statement. Surely you remember how you felt at the time of a goal, or a win, or do you suspend all emotion until May and then assess each game with hindsight? As an example, when I watch Le Tissier's goal at Ewood Park, I don't think "yeah but it counted for nothing because we lost". Also, say we end up finishing 8th - while it would be understandably disappointing, is it not better to spend a season near the top of table and trail off rather than spending all year mid-table or nervously looking over our shoulders at relegation for most of the year?

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Have to say, I'd be pretty annoyed if I was a Palace fan watching MOTD

 

They've just knocked out 3rd in the Prem from the FA Cup, away from home, coming from behind twice to win a five goal thriller.

 

They get put on after a 0-0 draw, get about 25 seconds of highlights, and have to listen to the opposition biased radio commentary over them.

 

Heck, I'm annoyed as a Saints fan it was that poor.

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In a way i'm quite glad we're out of the cups now, gives us a chance to concentrate on the league. Been saying this for ages now, but we play in domestic cups every year - we probably won't have as good of a chance in a while as we do now to qualify for European football, and that really should be the primary objective.

 

We can go for the FA Cup next season after we get knocked out in the Preliminary Round of the Champions League ;)

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WTF? I checked the score before I went to bed last night (2-1 then), and woke up to news of a whole bunch of upsets. At least we lost to PL opposition I suppose, and a team on a good run. I gather we couldn't have been very good if we let in more than two for only the second time this season. What happened? To make things worse, with Chelsea, Man City and Spurs all out, Liverpool and Man Utd have a decent path to the final. I so don't want LVG to get a trophy, ever, but especially in his first season, and Rodgers ... well, for obvious reasons.

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He created 5 goals in one game against Sunderland and our first winner at Old Trafford for 27 years and you post that after one sh*t cup game?

 

The 4th top assister in the Premier League and you never want him to play for us again. Wow.

 

There's a saying 'You're ONLY as good as your last game'

 

Both Pelle And Tadic need to stop whinging and get on with the game.

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Still cannot understand why getting knocked out of cup competitions is a good thing? No team wants to lose, especially at home and European football is more likely achieved for teams of our stature through Cup competitions. Sure we are going well in the league, but competition for automatic qualification for EL & CL is going to be very fierce and is by no means a certainty this season. And if it's good to be playing less games as an argument for consolidating our league position, how on earth will the poor loves cope with a league campaign if we actually end up playing in Europe.

 

Anyway, enjoyable game yesterday, frustrating in the first half. Tadic is the new Scakel. Pelle needs to stop whinging and Long should have played from the start. Fair play to Palace though, they are much improved under Pardew.

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Tadic has more skill than anyone else in the team, but he does not commit 100% and gets very careless and lacksidaisical. Sorry anyone who does not commit 100% I don't want in my team. Long has half Tadic's ability but he gives his all, looks interested and is brave. Tadic's is none of these things. Sorry just my view having watched him very closely yesterday and in previous games.

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Both Pelle And Tadic need to stop whinging and get on with the game.

 

 

I think Pelle had some justification - he got nothing from the referee yesterday.

 

Despite that Palace deserved their win. We were poor, no cohesion and several players played their worst game of the season. Davis, who I have rated very highly all season, couldn't seem to find another Saints player with his passing.

 

I don't buy into this "good, now we can concentrate on the league". We were beaten, well beaten, at home by Palace. Swansea must be thinking, we had a sh*t day but we can bounce back at Southampton ................................... I now worry about next week-end and our 3rd place.

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How do you think Richard played?

 

He was justifiably subbed, but so could the whole team have been.

 

Come to that we in the crowd were as subdued as the team . Saints supporters should have been subbed too.

 

Palarse supporters shamed us.

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I don't know if it was the aftermath of last weeks marathon, or that this is what life is like without Schneiderlin and Wanyama, but we completely lost control of midfield, and basic football skills. Palarse cut though us at will. Fair play to them. They deserved to go through.

 

 

Pretty much this really.

 

All I will add is that I'm not all convinced that (£10m) Fraser Forster is any better than (free transfer) Arthur Boruc is, and when we were literally minutes away from going out of the cup we still only had one man in the box at times. Let's face it, we were beaten by a better team on the day - but sometimes you can worry too much about keeping your shape and playing the percentage ball when what you really need to be doing is throwing the proverbial 'kitchen sink' at it.

 

Great as this season has been this fan found that second half (non) performance to be bitterly disappointing.

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I hope that it prompts the Boardroom to dig deep in the next week. A striker and a midfielder would be nice. We need reinforcements.

 

We have one aim now. CHAMPIONS LEAGUE. We are close. Time to spend the dosh that's left. After all, if we fail we have £45m from Sneiderlin and Clyne to come in the summer - it's worth the gamble.

 

Boardroom test is coming. To invest or not to invest? Is Koeman about to be failed by indecision and lack of courage by the Board? Personally, I cannot see us being in this position again. SPEND.

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