Nigel Adkins - second anniversary of his sacking

[pap]

Not quite sure he was treated as appallingly as some like to think/suggest. His somewhat strange interview after the Coventry promotion game suggested he knew he was on limited time as soon as we were promoted - his part in the plan - with someone new required for the next stage of the project. The fact he knew means he must have accepted this as part of his contract. Sure it seems strange' date=' weird because its at odds with what seems normal in football, but its pretty normal in other business. Yes he is a great coach and a decent man, but so was Steve Wiggley, and Stuart Gray, but we as fans were happy they got sacked... results have shown that Poch was better. Fans are fickle - happy to treat players and managers like sheidt when they are crap - The treatment of Adkins was no different, if anything better as he knew his role. [b']The pious attitude of some on here about it has more to do with WHO did the deed than the deed itself...[/b]

 

You could say the same about your post. I've referred to the post-match Coventry interview loads and have never had the bother you've got for it. Alright, hindsight shows us that neither Gray nor Wigley had the chops for the top job, but at some point they were considered decent enough to do it.

 

Something was definitely off in that interview; a lot of people at the time didn't want to hear it. The capitulation of the top spot to fúcking Reading irked me. Having West Ham breathing down our necks on the last day of the season was never going to be seen as acceptable by Cortese, or indeed, many of the fans.

 

So while I don't agree with all of your post, I think you make some valid points.

 

even by your standards this is a ridiculous post.

 

Whatever Frank, whatever.

 

Two concecutive promotions, plus his great work at Scu n thorpe and all that makes him in your eyes is no better than Steve Wigley and Stuart Gray?

 

You don't half write some utter drivel.

 

:scared::scared:

 

[Batman]

lets be honest, if you wanted a new manager in. We did it the right way. Just just not gracious at all

[pap]

lets be honest, if you wanted a new manager in. We did it the right way. Just just not gracious at all

 

The only thing that we did differently was not just sack the man without a replacement waiting in the wings. Was it the right footballing decision? Yes. The correct business decision? Yes.

 

He might not have known when the final nail was going to be hammered in, but he could hear the banging on the coffin at the end of the previous season. He was given a chance to show his Premier League mettle and failed. That's no disgrace; plenty do and some, like Neil Warnock, have failed repeatedly.

 

If you were running a business and you knew that someone had to go, how would you handle it? In serial, starting your recruitment drive only after the person had been sacked, or at the moment you knew he was going to be sacked?

 

Yeah, it looks utterly ruthless and calculated under the glare of the media spotlight, but this sort of thing goes on all the time in business.

[Dellman]

I was shocked at the time--who wasn't? but with hindsight i have to admit it was a bold and brilliant move and opened the door to where we are now. that's the way big business works and football is very big business and NC (like him or not) knew that and got it right.

[hasper57saint]

Who wasn't shocked? Cortese already had appointed Pocchettino before Nigel left!

[OldNick]

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well put Pap. The gang go for the man yet again.

[sussexsaint]

Sure its been mentioned but the tweet he posted on Saturday was really quite touching - had some nice replies from Saints fans as well. Clearly we made a big impact on him as well as 'the club'

[supersonic]

Did ok with Pardew's team. We've now reached a level he would never have got us too. Nice bloke, championship at best

[St_Tel49]

He has etched himself into a piece of Saints history. 20 years from now we'll be looking at the newly published "All The Saints" (You'll still be going Fitzhugh! ) and reminiscing about our League One days, and remembering the manager that guided us straight through two divisions back to the promised land.

 

Of course by then we'll have won 3 Champions Leagues, 11 Premier Leagues, 6 FA Cups whilst marvelling how Harrison Reed is still going at 39 (the best midfielder of his generation) and marvelling that we have MLT's super talented grandson coming through the academy and enjoying the surrounds or our new 250,000 seater stadium, the Liebherr Bowl.

I'm loving it

[sadoldgit]

So what if we didn't go up as champions. McMenemy didn't take us up as champions and he doesn't get stick for it. The job was to get us promoted and anyone who gets back to back promotions deserves credit. Decent bloke who was badly treated. Hope he gets a decent job soon. He deserves it.

[The9]

I still don't understand why he stitched himself up so obviously by taking the Reading job when he had practically no chance of keeping them up and that put him back in the same position he was a couple of years earlier, in charge of a Championship side, except one with greater expectation, less money and where even in succeeding in the challenge he'd only have proven that he could do something he'd already done with Saints.

 

He should have sat the season out after his sacking and got himself into one of the likely forthcoming vacancies at the likes of West Brom or Stoke, more established Prem sides much more likely to stay up. That way he moves from a one-time Championship promotion manager with 6 months' Prem experience showing signs of turning a team around, into an established 2-job Prem manager at a fairly sound club and gives himself much more chance of a third jop at a bottom half Prem club.

 

He basically sold himself short and is now the bloke who got us up but couldn't do the same for Reading.

 

As for his record at Scûnthorpe, he got them into the Championship twice, they're currently in the bottom half of L1.

[KelvinsRightGlove]

I still don't understand why he stitched himself up so obviously by taking the Reading job when he had practically no chance of keeping them up and that put him back in the same position he was a couple of years earlier, in charge of a Championship side, except one with greater expectation, less money and where even in succeeding in the challenge he'd only have proven that he could do something he'd already done with Saints.

 

He should have sat the season out after his sacking and got himself into one of the likely forthcoming vacancies at the likes of West Brom or Stoke, more established Prem sides much more likely to stay up. That way he moves from a one-time Championship promotion manager with 6 months' Prem experience showing signs of turning a team around, into an established 2-job Prem manager at a fairly sound club and gives himself much more chance of a third jop at a bottom half Prem club.

 

He basically sold himself short and is now the bloke who got us up but couldn't do the same for Reading.

 

As for his record at Scûnthorpe, he got them into the Championship twice, they're currently in the bottom half of L1.

 

I'd argue that the season he kept Scunny up in the Championship is an almost comparable achievement to promotion with Saints.