Badger Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Just realised this was two years ago today. His sacking still rankles with me. But from a Saints angle pleased the way things have turned out with Ronald Koeman (and without NC at the helm). Wish NA good luck in finding a decent club again, and hope he makes it back to the Premiership in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Just realised this was two years ago today. His sacking still rankles with me. But from a Saints angle pleased the way things have turned out with Ronald Koeman (and without NC at the helm). Wish NA good luck in finding a decent club again, and hope he makes it back to the Premiership in the future. But not with us, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 He was treated appallingly, hope he bounces back from his sacking at Reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Together as one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Draw a blue line under it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 The new Alex Ferguson hasn't quite lived up to his hype. However his treatment was awful, a dead man walking long before he got the bullet, a decent manager and a great guy who deserved better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Fk me Turk, without that first sentence that is almost quiet touching. You getting soft or something Fella? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 The new Alex Ferguson hasn't quite lived up to his hype. However his treatment was awful, a dead man walking long before he got the bullet, a decent manager and a great guy who deserved better. This indeed. He did his job here too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 It all got a bit unseemly in the end, like when he thought Cortese was spying on him through a 2-way mirror in his office. I mean, I wouldn't have put it past Cortese, but he shouldn't ought to have accused him on live tv like he did. I still like Atkins tho. If he's got nothing better to do, he can come back run our youth team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Malvo Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 and hope he makes it back to the Premiership in the future. No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 18 January, 2015 Author Share Posted 18 January, 2015 No chance. Depends where he ends up, I thought Norwich would have been a good fit for him, but they've opted for an unheard of Scots bloke. Wigan ? Could be good there, or at Forest, Sheff Weds I wouldn't bet against it, but if he ends up at the Doncasters of this world then no, like many 'promising' managers he'll fall back into the mid-stream, and wonder what might have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 He was treated appallingly, hope he bounces back from his sacking at Reading. Always thought he took the Reading job a bit to quickly that job was a bit of a poisoned chalice IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 No chance. Why? If Mick McCarthy, Sean Dyche, Neil Warnock, Owen Coyle and Ian Holloway can get promoted to the Premier League why can't our Nigel again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Why? If Mick McCarthy, Sean Dyche, Neil Warnock, Owen Coyle and Ian Holloway can get promoted to the Premier League why can't our Nigel again? Bang on THIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Malvo Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Why? If Mick McCarthy, Sean Dyche, Neil Warnock, Owen Coyle and Ian Holloway can get promoted to the Premier League why can't our Nigel again? I don't think he would get a job good enough to get promotion tbh. Reading was a bit failure for him, and apart from our one season in the CCC (which we should have won the league) he has always failed in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 I don't think he would get a job good enough to get promotion tbh. Reading was a bit failure for him, and apart from our one season in the CCC (which we should have won the league) he has always failed in it. You're calling his time at S****horpe (basically a lower L1/L2 that he over promoted) a failure? Okay then. Owen Coyle, Dyche, Aidy Boothroyd, Holloway etc all got into the Prem with clubs of a level the NA could get a job at. Anyway, I didn't mean that he will get promoted again with his very next job, but I think he could again sometime. Still think he will manage Wigan someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Reading was not a failure for Adkins. You do realize they had not a penny to spend after failed takeovers and promises made to him were not honored? Adkins was too honorable a guy to make a big deal of it but he was dealt a bad hand. They have not improved since he left. Top guy and very good manager who deserves a good club that is stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 The new Alex Ferguson hasn't quite lived up to his hype. However his treatment was awful, a dead man walking long before he got the bullet, a decent manager and a great guy who deserved better. How many yeas did Fergie struggle before becoming the icon he is? At Reading the long drawn out club ownership and financial fiasco would have had most managers unable to do well. Yet, faced with this is held his own. Don't see Steve Clarke doing so well so far!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Top bloke who deserved to be let go with a bit of dignity. Club looked really shoddy through the whole thing, especially as it was an open secret that they were looking to replace him from Autumn onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 And while mopo did well for us, it turned out we replaced our top Nige, in an appalling way, with an equally appalling bloke, so got what we deserved in some ways. Agree NA was dealt a very poor hand at Reading. Hope he gets a decent club soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Not quite sure he was treated as appallingly as some like to think/suggest. His somewhat strange interview after the Coventry promotion game suggested he knew he was on limited time as soon as we were promoted - his part in the plan - with someone new required for the next stage of the project. The fact he knew means he must have accepted this as part of his contract. Sure it seems strange, weird because its at odds with what seems normal in football, but its pretty normal in other business. Yes he is a great coach and a decent man, but so was Steve Wiggley, and Stuart Gray, but we as fans were happy they got sacked... results have shown that Poch was better. Fans are fickle - happy to treat players and managers like sheidt when they are crap - The treatment of Adkins was no different, if anything better as he knew his role. The pious attitude of some on here about it has more to do with WHO did the deed than the deed itself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Not quite sure he was treated as appallingly as some like to think/suggest. His somewhat strange interview after the Coventry promotion game suggested he knew he was on limited time as soon as we were promoted - his part in the plan - with someone new required for the next stage of the project. The fact he knew means he must have accepted this as part of his contract. Sure it seems strange' date=' weird because its at odds with what seems normal in football, but its pretty normal in other business. Yes he is a great coach and a decent man, but so was Steve Wiggley, and Stuart Gray, but we as fans were happy they got sacked... results have shown that Poch was better. Fans are fickle - happy to treat players and managers like sheidt when they are crap - The treatment of Adkins was no different, if anything better as he knew his role. The pious attitude of some on here about it has more to do with WHO did the deed than the deed itself...[/quote'] even by your standards this is a ridiculous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 even by your standards this is a ridiculous post. where as your response is typically ignorant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Not quite sure he was treated as appallingly as some like to think/suggest. His somewhat strange interview after the Coventry promotion game suggested he knew he was on limited time as soon as we were promoted - his part in the plan - with someone new required for the next stage of the project. The fact he knew means he must have accepted this as part of his contract. Sure it seems strange' date=' weird because its at odds with what seems normal in football, but its pretty normal in other business. Yes he is a great coach and a decent man, but so was Steve Wiggley, and Stuart Gray, but we as fans were happy they got sacked... results have shown that Poch was better. Fans are fickle - happy to treat players and managers like sheidt when they are crap - The treatment of Adkins was no different, if anything better as he knew his role. The pious attitude of some on here about it has more to do with WHO did the deed than the deed itself...[/quote'] Whatever Frank, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Whatever Frank, whatever. You know, for a 'teacher' the fact that you seem rather ill at ease with entering reasonable discussion, is pretty sad... as for 'whatever' .... . Fans ARE fickle, we criticise players for disloyalty when they want to leave, yet are happy to see the back of those we don't rate, same with managers. Adkins knew his part in the plan would be over - you might not like the 'evil dwarf' or 'whatever', but getting up on your high horse as if it was some terrible tragedy, or he was the first to ever get sacked in football, despite pretty crap results, is somewhat juvenile, and actually quite funny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Frank - yet again your 3rd grade writing resorts to insults. How on earth you can say Adkins was doing crap (Saints on a good run, just drew at Chelsea) is beyond belief. He was treated appallingly - if you cannot admit to that then there is something seriously wrong. We have moved on and have, IMO, the best manager for many, many years but at least credit Adkins with the fantastic role he played in our upwards curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Not quite sure he was treated as appallingly as some like to think/suggest. His somewhat strange interview after the Coventry promotion game suggested he knew he was on limited time as soon as we were promoted - his part in the plan - with someone new required for the next stage of the project. The fact he knew means he must have accepted this as part of his contract. Sure it seems strange' date=' weird because its at odds with what seems normal in football, but its pretty normal in other business. Yes he is a great coach and a decent man, but so was Steve Wiggley, and Stuart Gray, but we as fans were happy they got sacked... results have shown that Poch was better. Fans are fickle - happy to treat players and managers like sheidt when they are crap - The treatment of Adkins was no different, if anything better as he knew his role. The pious attitude of some on here about it has more to do with WHO did the deed than the deed itself...[/quote'] Two concecutive promotions, plus his great work at Scu n thorpe and all that makes him in your eyes is no better than Steve Wigley and Stuart Gray? You don't half write some utter drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 You know' date=' for a 'teacher' the fact that you seem rather ill at ease with entering reasonable discussion, is pretty sad... as for 'whatever' .... . Fans ARE fickle, we criticise players for disloyalty when they want to leave, yet are happy to see the back of those we don't rate, same with managers. Adkins knew his part in the plan would be over - you might not like the 'evil dwarf' or 'whatever', but getting up on your high horse as if it was some terrible tragedy, or he was the first to ever get sacked in football, despite pretty crap results, is somewhat juvenile, and actually quite funny...[/quote'] Your efforts at insults are as weak as your usual drivel. I tend not to enter into discussions with those of limited ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 To cut Franco a bit of slack, its a tough week for him what with it being the anniversary of his heroes departure, must have opened up a few old wounds. I expect he's having a drink to ease the pain. Stay strong pal #prayforfranco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 (edited) To cut Franco a bit of slack, its a tough week for him what with it being the anniversary of his heroes departure, must have opened up a few old wounds. I expect he's having a drink to ease the pain. Stay strong Franco #prayforfranco If, as the boring one tells us, us fickle fans should treat all departures of club staff the same regardless of whether they were good or crap, why did Franco spend eight months on here openly weeping about the departure of the chief executive? Surely he should have treated it just the same as the departure of Lee Hoos? Edited 18 January, 2015 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirley precinct Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 I saw nige and a friend trying to get a taxi in islington a few months ago. His buddy nearly got run over chasing cabs but our nige - cool as a cucumber - just stood where he was et voila! one turned up. I hope he demonstrates similar cucumber-like abilities in getting himself a nice new job. Go nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 If, as the boring one tells us, us fickle fans should treat all departures of club staff the same regardless of whether they were good or crap, why did Franko spend eight months on here openly weeping about the departure of the chief executive? Surely he should have treated it just the same as the departure of Lee Hoos? Good point, Cortese was a decent chairman, but so was Guy Askham and fans were pleased when he was replaced. Cortese most have known that he had played his parr in the plan and was going to be be replaced by someone better, yet he got on his high horse acting like it was some terrible tragedy. Fans are fickle, results have shown Ralph is better. Cortese knew his position and accepted it when he signed his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Frank - yet again your 3rd grade writing resorts to insults. How on earth you can say Adkins was doing crap (Saints on a good run, just drew at Chelsea) is beyond belief. He was treated appallingly - if you cannot admit to that then there is something seriously wrong. We have moved on and have, IMO, the best manager for many, many years but at least credit Adkins with the fantastic role he played in our upwards curve. We had just drawn at Chelsea, it was a get out of jail result, he had mistakenly put RL on the bench and only when he was brought on did he turn the result. NA did very well for us, but only to a level. I wish him luck in his future jobs, his judgement was poor accepting the Reading job, he was better than that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 (edited) Shoddy way he was treated but it was an inspired decision to let him go when we did, giving MP half a season to bed in. Not sure we would have had four England internationals in a NA team, especially Jrod whose misuse epitomised Nige's struggles at this level. Still getting out of the championship which is a brutal division remains a massive achievement. Edited 18 January, 2015 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Good point, Cortese was a decent chairman, but so was Guy Askham and fans were pleased when he was replaced. Cortese most have known that he had played his parr in the plan and was going to be be replaced by someone better, yet he got on his high horse acting like it was some terrible tragedy. Fans are fickle, results have shown Ralph is better. Cortese knew his position and accepted it when he signed his contract. Guy Askham a good chairman? Hey, what planet ? He took us to the edge of ruin with his love-in with Branfoot and then he made a fortune out of the Club giving himself and a few cronies the clubs stoscks and shares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 The full story of Nigel's departure will come out some day. He was very friendly with the press pack. He was a fantastic manager for us and I hope he finds a new job soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 He has etched himself into a piece of Saints history. 20 years from now we'll be looking at the newly published "All The Saints" (You'll still be going Fitzhugh! ) and reminiscing about our League One days, and remembering the manager that guided us straight through two divisions back to the promised land. Of course by then we'll have won 3 Champions Leagues, 11 Premier Leagues, 6 FA Cups whilst marvelling how Harrison Reed is still going at 39 (the best midfielder of his generation) and marvelling that we have MLT's super talented grandson coming through the academy and enjoying the surrounds or our new 250,000 seater stadium, the Liebherr Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Not quite sure he was treated as appallingly as some like to think/suggest. His somewhat strange interview after the Coventry promotion game suggested he knew he was on limited time as soon as we were promoted - his part in the plan - with someone new required for the next stage of the project. The fact he knew means he must have accepted this as part of his contract. Sure it seems strange' date=' weird because its at odds with what seems normal in football, but its pretty normal in other business. Yes he is a great coach and a decent man, but so was Steve Wiggley, and Stuart Gray, but we as fans were happy they got sacked... results have shown that Poch was better. Fans are fickle - happy to treat players and managers like sheidt when they are crap - The treatment of Adkins was no different, if anything better as he knew his role. The pious attitude of some on here about it has more to do with WHO did the deed than the deed itself...[/quote'] :scared::scared: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 for the next 20 yrs there will be literally several books about our meteoric rise. Nige will feature in the first bit. Get use! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 19 January, 2015 Share Posted 19 January, 2015 Loved watching that again, nearly a tear I have to admit. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 19 January, 2015 Share Posted 19 January, 2015 Very mediocre manager. Obsessed by many on here which is cringeworthy. If the business doesn't think you are up to the task you are removed and replaced by someone better......he was,and rightly so. And that scenario will carry on in all walks of life. Using one of many of his awful sound bites...'draw a blue line under it' and move on. He hasn't even got a bus to drive right now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 19 January, 2015 Share Posted 19 January, 2015 Very mediocre manager. Obsessed by many on here which is cringeworthy. If the business doesn't think you are up to the task you are removed and replaced by someone better......he was,and rightly so. And that scenario will carry on in all walks of life. Using one of many of his awful sound bites...'draw a blue line under it' and move on. He hasn't even got a bus to drive right now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Right on cue... Will always have huge respect for NA and associate the rise back to the PL with Adkins and Lambert, et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 19 January, 2015 Share Posted 19 January, 2015 The first season he was at Southampton Cortese raved about him in an interview, saying what a fantastic job he was doing. So something happened between promotion to the Championship and the final few months of the next season that changed his mind. Any ideas? Did Adkins make any monumentally awful decisions in games in the Championship season that cost us points? I guess Cortese thought that having been top of the league for so long to let it slip away was pretty poor, and indeed had we won the game at home to Reading we WOULD have finished top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 19 January, 2015 Share Posted 19 January, 2015 I met one of Nige's school mates in Liverpool. I was highly complimentary, of course. Said Nigel was a smart bloke, we all still loved him for what he achieved. The weird thing is that none of my comments about him being a good manager or a smart bloke were validated in any meaningful way. Got the impression that his mate wasn't as impressed as I was. Now maybe that's the bitter sentiment of a bloke who was doing a relatively menial job when his contemporary is getting to play around with football teams. Maybe it is something more. One thing is for sure. I wouldn't be happy if he rolled into town and replaced RK. Football fans. Fickle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 January, 2015 Share Posted 19 January, 2015 Very mediocre manager. Obsessed by many on here which is cringeworthy. If the business doesn't think you are up to the task you are removed and replaced by someone better......he was,and rightly so. And that scenario will carry on in all walks of life. Using one of many of his awful sound bites...'draw a blue line under it' and move on. He hasn't even got a bus to drive right now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Who could have possibly predicted you would crawl out and post on this thread. Oh yeah, everyone. Well done on a very mediocre post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 19 January, 2015 Share Posted 19 January, 2015 Very mediocre manager. Obsessed by many on here which is cringeworthy. If the business doesn't think you are up to the task you are removed and replaced by someone better......he was,and rightly so. And that scenario will carry on in all walks of life. Using one of many of his awful sound bites...'draw a blue line under it' and move on. He hasn't even got a bus to drive right now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Two promotions in succession. Yep...Very mediocre. I don't revere him and am certainly not obsessed with him...but mediocre? Your act is getting as boring as Daleks...you're just making yourself look silly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 19 January, 2015 Share Posted 19 January, 2015 You're calling his time at S****horpe (basically a lower L1/L2 that he over promoted) a failure? Okay then. Owen Coyle, Dyche, Aidy Boothroyd, Holloway etc all got into the Prem with clubs of a level the NA could get a job at. Anyway, I didn't mean that he will get promoted again with his very next job, but I think he could again sometime. Still think he will manage Wigan someday. Maybe setting myself up for a massive fall here, I think Dyche is a good manager. Did a decent job at Watford, used to live close and saw them a few times under him. They played nice stuff. Done a fantastic job in getting Burnley up, and is giving them a fighting chance of staying up.Early days yet, but his record so far suggests he has potential to do ok. On Adkins, it was a crappy way to treat a really decent bloke. Ultimately though, it seems it was the right decision. MP came in and did a very good job. Took a number of players on to a higher level, even if he did act a prat towards the end of his tenure. Then Koeman came in and, well, he looks great. Will still be thankful to Nige though, his L1 & Championship seasons were great fun. Being a Saints fan hadn't been that enjoyable in a long while, so I'll always have a soft spot for him and his unwavering positivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 19 January, 2015 Share Posted 19 January, 2015 If the business doesn't think you are up to the task you are removed and replaced by someone better......he was,and rightly so. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Chris Nicholl wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 19 January, 2015 Share Posted 19 January, 2015 The question wasn't so much was he good enough to succeed in the PL, as was he good enough to succeed in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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