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Really not sure but would go for:

Forster

Clyne fonte Toby Bertrand

Vic Morgan

Tadic mane j rod

Pelle

(Elia or j rod is tough as is david or ward prowse)

Subs

K Davis, s Davis, Gardos, ward prowse, targett, long.

 

Reed or Gallagher as last sub!

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Goalie and defence pick themselves.

Centre mid Morgan/vic or Morgan/cork offer different but equal qualities.

Davis obviously in front of them

Wide slots have me completely unsure. Probably tadic/Jrod but Elia/mane could take one of those slots if they consistently impress.

Pelle obviously the target man

 

Vic is ahead of cork now surely.

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Best 11s and lack of thinking are for redknapp style managers.

 

Not sure I agree. All the best teams have 8 or 9 rock solid starters and the rest are pretty consistent as well. That's the same with us but you're right that the attacking options - and sometimes the defensive formation - can change based on the opposition and circumstances.

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But the idea of a best team is redundant now anyway, it's all about the best team to beat the next opposition. Elia and mane would be more useful in some games than others, same with Long or Cork. Might want 2 up front sometimes or 3 at the back.

 

Best 11s and lack of thinking are for redknapp style managers.

 

Not just those sort of managers - Mourinho has a very settled starting XI. Courtois, Ivanovic, Cahill, Terry, Luis/Azpi, Cesc, Matic, Hazard, Oscar, Willian/Schurrle, Costa

 

only two positions which change for rotation.

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But the idea of a best team is redundant now anyway, it's all about the best team to beat the next opposition. Elia and mane would be more useful in some games than others, same with Long or Cork. Might want 2 up front sometimes or 3 at the back.

 

Best 11s and lack of thinking are for redknapp style managers.

 

Nails it for me.

 

All I'd add is that Koeman seems able to make excellent line-up and tactical adjustments within games, not just for them. That makes the concept of "best team" even more redundant (no disrespect intended to the OP).

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The only debate really is in the attacking 3 in midfield.

 

For me it's Tadic, JWP and J Rod. Elia and Mane have yet to prove themselves consistently and JWP edges Davis for his set pieces delivery. Still, Elia, Mane and Davis would rip holes in most Premier League teams so it's a great dilemma to have.

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IF Jay Rod gets back to what he was last season at his peak (or better) then

 

Forster

Clyne Toby, Fonte, Betrand

Victor, Morgan

Tadic, JWP, Jay Rod

Pelle.

 

Davis, Cork, Gardos, Mane, Davis, Elia, Reed

 

Against someone good and away then I'd put Davis in for JWP and Mane comes in for Jay Rod if he struggles.

 

Also harsh on Long who I think has done nothing wrong this seasons and always made a contribution.

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3-5-2

 

- - - - - - - - - Boruc - - - - - - - - - -

- - - Fonte Alderweireld Yoshida - - -

Clyne - - - Morgan Vic - - - Bertrand

JayRod - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Elia

- - - - - - - - - Pelle - - - - - - - - - -

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3-5-2

 

- - - - - - - - - Boruc - - - - - - - - - -

- - - Fonte Alderweireld Yoshida - - -

Clyne - - - Morgan Vic - - - Bertrand

JayRod - - - - Tadic - - - - - - Elia

- - - - - - - - - Pelle - - - - - - - - - -

 

How is that 3-5-2? Its 3-7-1, which is 12 players when you add the keeper to it!

 

If you play with 3 centre backs and wings backs, you don't play with wingers as well. The width is meant to come from the wing backs.

 

Boruc is on loan at Bournemouth this season and you'd pick him over Forster?

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How is that 3-5-2? Its 3-7-1, which is 12 players when you add the keeper to it!

 

If you play with 3 centre backs and wings backs, you don't play with wingers as well. The width is meant to come from the wing backs.

 

Boruc is on loan at Bournemouth this season and you'd pick him over Forster?

 

Whoops Fixed. Changed my formation and forget to drop Tadic.

 

- - - - - - - - - Boruc - - - - - - - - - -

- - - Fonte Alderweireld Yoshida - - -

Clyne - - - Morgan Vic - - - Bertrand

JayRod - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Elia

- - - - - - - - - Pelle - - - - - - - - - -

 

JayRod/Elia prefer to come inside so they'd alternate being the 2nd striker near Pelle while the other swings wide to assist the fullback for the overlap. I'd pick Boruc at the moment but Forster is younger and has the potential. I know Boruc is likely to never play for us again but he's still one of our players. Bournemouth were undefeated in their 1st 17 games with Boruc only conceding 13 goals, he's still a very very good keeper.

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Have people who pick Davis ahead of JWP in the attacking midfield position not actually watched us this season?

 

I'd be asking if people who don't pick Davis have seen us without him. He's been our best player apart from Alderweireld and was the only player who added tempo to the team until Elia arrived.

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How is that 3-5-2? Its 3-7-1, which is 12 players when you add the keeper to it!

 

If you play with 3 centre backs and wings backs, you don't play with wingers as well. The width is meant to come from the wing backs.

 

Boruc is on loan at Bournemouth this season and you'd pick him over Forster?

 

Glass houses, pal.

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I wouldn't include Rodriguez because I have no idea if he's going to be able to be as good as he was. I'd put Elia in because he's been great and has plenty of experience, and would play Davis ahead of Mane in the hole because Davis is everywhere, defends as well as he attacks, is the player who links our defence and attack in the middle of the park when we're carrying the ball, and is the main reason teams can't keep a rigid defensive shape and don't just sit back and defend long balls and crosses from us. Mane is also a superb impact sub.

 

Would probably go with Tadic on the right though overall I think he's been playing within himself, though Ward-Prowse's free-kicks and set pieces offer another dimension, so it's a close one.

 

You'd have to wonder about anyone not going with

 

Forster; Clyne, Fonte, Alderweireld, Bertrand; Wanyama, Schneiderlin to start with though.

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