Deanovski Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Could be more reliable but... http://metro.co.uk/2015/01/15/arsenal-agree-transfer-deal-for-southamptons-morgan-schneiderlin-5023229/?ito=v-b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 That article is based on a Tweet by "The Secret Footballer", who happens to be this man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 16 January, 2015 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2015 I thought they'd had a done deal when we signed him anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Would be odd given the circumstances this season. Pretty sure Morgan will leave in the summer but if he really wants CL football he might be better waiting to see which clubs get it first, arsenal might not even make the CL this season. From saints point of view he will be in high demand in the summer so why agree a deal with arsenal now when we could have a bidding war in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Is the earth really flat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Would be odd given the circumstances this season. Pretty sure Morgan will leave in the summer but if he really wants CL football he might be better waiting to see which clubs get it first, arsenal might not even make the CL this season. From saints point of view he will be in high demand in the summer so why agree a deal with arsenal now when we could have a bidding war in the summer. Exactly. He is amongst the most in demand players by the wealthiest clubs. Unless we have promised Schneiderlin that he could go to Arsenal for that fee in return for him staying with us until the summer, I can't see us agreeing a fee now, when we have the whip-hand in negotiations and could squeeze another £5+ million from a deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Exactly. He is amongst the most in demand players by the wealthiest clubs. Unless we have promised Schneiderlin that he could go to Arsenal for that fee in return for him staying with us until the summer, I can't see us agreeing a fee now, when we have the whip-hand in negotiations and could squeeze another £5+ million from a deal Coming from someone who claimed That it was all lies from journalists an hour before Adkins was sacked its best to ignore your view on who might be leaving and when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 If I was a betting man I would lay a few quid on this one - I think most people have accepted he's off in the summer, that was the deal he struck with RK last year. I think the exodus this coming summer could nearly be as significant as last pre season with Clyne and Rodriguez and perhaps Cork all departing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Follow up tweet says it'll be summer, which is what a few of us have reckoned all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 If I was a betting man I would lay a few quid on this one - I think most people have accepted he's off in the summer, that was the deal he struck with RK last year. I think the exodus this coming summer could nearly be as significant as last pre season with Clyne and Rodriguez and perhaps Cork all departing. As long as we don't lose koeman I have faith we'll replace the ones that leave with talent just as able. I'm not worried about this coming pre season at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 If I was a betting man I would lay a few quid on this one - I think most people have accepted he's off in the summer, that was the deal he struck with RK last year. I think the exodus this coming summer could nearly be as significant as last pre season with Clyne and Rodriguez and perhaps Cork all departing. And there will be the usual boring doom and gloom. Just wish people would enjoy the CURRENT season where we are doing well and stop worrying about who is going and who isn't, in the summer, at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Follow up tweet says it'll be summer, which is what a few of us have reckoned all year. Funny that, given that is the assumption of almost all Saints fans too. Stab in the dark that he's off to Arsenal given the French connection with Wenger, says it is done but will happen in the summer when everyone expects him to leave anyway and it will never come out if had been pre-agreed = at least 50% correct when he goes and a poor attempt to establish some sort of credibility as an ITK on Twitter of all places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Funny that, given that is the assumption of almost all Saints fans too. Stab in the dark that he's off to Arsenal given the French connection with Wenger, says it is done but will happen in the summer when everyone expects him to leave anyway and it will never come out if had been pre-agreed = at least 50% correct when he goes and a poor attempt to establish some sort of credibility as an ITK on Twitter of all places. Bit unfair. He was responding to direct questions from another person. Do you think those are the next steps for Secret Footballer then? "I'm fed up with all of this book writing. Time to establish myself as a Twitter ITK legend". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Have any of the oddballs who are quick to dismiss this story considered that the secret footballer has a reputation to uphold? That his entire shtick and claim to fame is based on being genuinely ITK and so would be reluctant to say anything he wasn't reasonably confident about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 I think the exodus this coming summer could nearly be as significant as last pre season with Clyne and Rodriguez and perhaps Cork all departing. Not sure J-Rod would be missed, considering this season so far. Don't get me wrong, if he gets back to full fitness he'll improve the squad greatly, but we are doing fine without him. Clyne, on the other hand needs to be priced at least as highly as Luke Shaw if one of the 2 clubs above us in the league come sniffing - I wouldn't consider an offer from any of the 17 lesser teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 (edited) A pre-agreed done deal is just so much BS IMHO. That suggest a price has been settled and even if a bigger club than the Arse came in for him they wouldn't have a chance. The whole scenario doesn't sound like it would be in the player's interest to sign a binding deal before all the cards have been played. Kitson's just a chancer who's try to get credibility out of a statement that can never be proven or otherwise. Edited 16 January, 2015 by lifeintheslowlane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Bit unfair. He was responding to direct questions from another person. Do you think those are the next steps for Secret Footballer then? "I'm fed up with all of this book writing. Time to establish myself as a Twitter ITK legend". Not particularly, just making the point that anyone could have said the same thing when it comes to a player like Schniederlin and then give it as a minimum, "well i told you back in January he was leaving," and quite possibly get the club right as well. Whether he was responding to a direct question or not, doesn't mean his response was any more or less true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svetigpung Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Pretty sure he's off in the summer. Just hope he moves abroad. Arsenal are not a definate CL team at the moment. Same with Spuds. So please , not norf Lundun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Have any of the oddballs who are quick to dismiss this story considered that the secret footballer has a reputation to uphold? That his entire shtick and claim to fame is based on being genuinely ITK and so would be reluctant to say anything he wasn't reasonably confident about? He is a chancer who has merely posted it as something that might be true. So no different from any media hack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraBLACK Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Little tip: Never use The Metro as a source for transfer rumours and never use The Mail as a source for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Surely Arsene is buying his frenchmen from newcastle nowadays ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Little tip: Never use The Metro as a source for transfer rumours and never use The Mail as a source for anything. hahahahaha yeah f*ck the mail and those sh*t arsed journo's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 More lazy journalism. My guess is that Morgan will be off in the Summer, assuming that he still wants to go. The only way that he might stay is if we qualify for the CL. The most important thing this summer is to keep RK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Would he go there if we qualified for the Champions League and Arsenal didn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Have any of the oddballs who are quick to dismiss this story considered that the secret footballer has a reputation to uphold? That his entire shtick and claim to fame is based on being genuinely ITK and so would be reluctant to say anything he wasn't reasonably confident about? Funny isn't it that anybody who makes reasonable points as to why it might be a bit strange for this to have been a done deal several months before the probable sale date and who points out that it could be more advantageous for Schneiderlin to wait and see whether Arsenal could offer CL, or indeed whether Saints might make more by selling him elsewhere, is labelled an oddball. Or is it that anybody who disagrees with you must be an oddball, regardless? But you obviously have a point because all of the journos who have picked up the story and ran with it also have their reputations to uphold too, so they must be confident that the mystery footballer's ITK credentials are worth backing. After all, they hardly ever get anything wrong about our club, it was being asset-stripped, firesale of players, owner wanting to sell, etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 I have no idea if this story is true or not but recent experience suggests that if it does happen Koeman will already have a replacement up his sleeve. The Firesale Meltdown days are over. Those of a nervous disposition should remember that we seamlessly survived the biggest summer exodus in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Freaky. I had a dream last night that he left us this month and then later in the dream we lost 9-0 at home to Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Freaky. I had a dream last night that he left us this month and then later in the dream we lost 9-0 at home to Spurs Cut down on the cheese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 If I was a betting man I would lay a few quid on this one - I think most people have accepted he's off in the summer, that was the deal he struck with RK last year. I think the exodus this coming summer could nearly be as significant as last pre season with Clyne and Rodriguez and perhaps Cork all departing. Personally, except for Clyne, I wouldn't consider the other two players leaving as significant as the players last season who were all first team regulars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 And there will be the usual boring doom and gloom. Just wish people would enjoy the CURRENT season where we are doing well and stop worrying about who is going and who isn't, in the summer, at the end of the season. Well I hope our scouting team/managerial team have got one eye on the forthcoming close season. If the exodus materialises (and forgive me for at least thinking about it) then it will be a reassurance that all eventualities/replacements are already been considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 MS to Arse Hardly a revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 MS to Arse Hardly a revelation. I think if we were to get CL then this could potentially be the only departure, other than maybe someone like Cork leaving for first team football at another club. But knowing Saints the summer will serve up something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1976 Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Why don't all the good players we have just stay here and turn us into the 'big club' they want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 If I was a betting man I would lay a few quid on this one - I think most people have accepted he's off in the summer, that was the deal he struck with RK last year. I think the exodus this coming summer could nearly be as significant as last pre season with Clyne and Rodriguez and perhaps Cork all departing. Has Cork not signed his new contract then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Has Cork not signed his new contract then? Nothing has been communicated that he has. Next few games are key IMO. Of he doesn't get starts when bith Morgan and Wanyama are out then he may as well leave. On the flip side he knows Morgan is off in the summer and there is the possibility of a big club coming in for Wanyama too, so next season could be different for him. Tough choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Freaky. I had a dream last night that he left us this month and then later in the dream we lost 9-0 at home to Spurs Surely that was a nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Nothing has been communicated that he has. Next few games are key IMO. Of he doesn't get starts when bith Morgan and Wanyama are out then he may as well leave. On the flip side he knows Morgan is off in the summer and there is the possibility of a big club coming in for Wanyama too, so next season could be different for him. Tough choice. He hasn't signed it!? Ron! Rip it up in front of his face now, the big head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Why would we make a deal with Arsenal so early? Surely Morgan would want to keep his options open for a start, and as far as the club is concerned, why not wait to see what other offers come in first? As has been mentioned previously, what happens if Arsenal fail to make top four? What about a bigger club than Arsenal coming in for him, offering far better personal terms? If the deal was done last Summer, as a sweetener to keep Morgan happy and not make waves, then why hasn't there been more positive stuff about Saints coming out of his mouth apart from the stuff earlier in the week? (if there has been more then apologies if I've missed them) There have been a few interviews with French media where he still goes on about wanting a move to a bigger club and CL football, which doesn't help the club, so why mention it if he's already off? Mr Secret Footballer may well have been told it's a "done deal" but maybe his contact has it wrong or has put 2 and 2 together and got 5. Having said all this, maybe the deal has been done recently - which would coincide with Morgan's sudden positive words about the club earlier in the week. Maybe we have someone coming the other way from Arsenal as part of the deal, hence it being done well in advance? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm putting 2 and 2 together and getting 6!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Surely that was a nightmare For some...but then he woke up and realised it was only football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Would be odd given the circumstances this season. Pretty sure Morgan will leave in the summer but if he really wants CL football he might be better waiting to see which clubs get it first, arsenal might not even make the CL this season. From saints point of view he will be in high demand in the summer so why agree a deal with arsenal now when we could have a bidding war in the summer. Does he primarily want CL football? He sad he wanted to play for a "big club" one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Has Cork not signed his new contract then? has his Dad stopped moaning about Jack not having been offered one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 A deal with Arsenal or another club would explain Schneiderlin's abrupt change of heart about leaving. The deal that may have been brokered need only be conditional upon Arsenal qualifying for Champions League next season if that's what's important to him. He might consider that even should Arsenal not qualify next season they have a better chance than Southampton of qualfying in subsequent seasons, and he'd be right. In the meantime he can think of the readies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 What an absolute load of rubbish. How could he play against the team he has agreed to join. If we've agreed anything then he would have gone in this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 What an absolute load of rubbish. How could he play against the team he has agreed to join. If we've agreed anything then he would have gone in this window. If it's Arsenal he kinda didn't. Injured at the Emirates, Suspended at St Mary's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 If it's Arsenal he kinda didn't. Injured at the Emirates, Suspended at St Mary's. Yeah, funny that. Especially as he was charging around like a mad man making sure he got the second yellow at the end of the game. [ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Yeah, funny that. Especially as he was charging around like a mad man making sure he got the second yellow at the end of the game. [ Although I thought that most, the incalcitrant conspiracy theorists apart of course, agreed that the second yellow against Chelsea was taking one for the team and extremely necessary. Just all wild speculation as far as I can see though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Well yeah, you have to be mental to think a professional sports man would do it on purpose but it makes a nice conspiracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Surely Arsene is buying his frenchmen from newcastle nowadays ? There's another myth busted! I was reliably informed as a boy that 'Cole came from Newcastle'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 If I was a betting man I would lay a few quid on this one - I think most people have accepted he's off in the summer, that was the deal he struck with RK last year. I think the exodus this coming summer could nearly be as significant as last pre season with Clyne and Rodriguez and perhaps Cork all departing. Rough night or manic depressive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Why don't all the good players we have just stay here and turn us into the 'big club' they want? Indeed.... but we cant pay them £150k a week.... its always about the money, whatever BS they come out with about 'testing themselves' - as for the other old chestnut about 'winning things', they seem to forget that if they stayed they would here.... Sadly, the game is all about money, as opposed to the 'TEAM' challenge, and being part of something unique and special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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