Wes Tender Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 No, admin was **** myself worried. Funnily enough, I wasn't that convinced that we would ever go under completely, because we were too much a saleable commodity because of our assets and infrastructure. I just hoped that we would get decent owners instead of the sort of charlatans that were attracted to the skates like flies to sh*t. Let's list all the happenings from the admin to the current time when the sensible position was always to wait and see what happened despite a seemingly bad development. Administration The sad passing of Markus Liebherr Sacking of Pardew Sacking of Adkins Departure of Cortese Departure of Pochettino Sale of Lambert, Lallana, Shaw, Lovren, Chambers In each case, the wailing and gnashing of teeth resulted in a much better situation afterwards, but the most significant development that set the train of events in progress was the arrival of the Liebherr family as our owners. We are incredibly lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 in the last 10 minutes heard a Spurs fan saying how nobody had heard of Luke Shaw before Pochettino took over Saints and then he turned him into a £30mil player by giving him his chance in the first team, which is why he's such a fantastic coach. This must be a different Luke Shaw to the one that set up Jason Puncheon's equaliser at Stamford Bridge in Nigel Adkins' last match in charge and had already been a regular starter for months Must add this was on TalkSport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 Must add this was on TalkSport That is even better. Broadcast stupid comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 It certainly wasnt an asset strip but lets be honest, anyone that wasnt concerned with what transpired in the early summer was either mental or lying I was neither of those and certainly not concerned. It takes a lot to get me worried these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 Fair enough to have been concerned, just as we all were when the club went into administration. But as then, the sensible position was always to wait and see what happened next before passing judgement based on rumours and innuendo and accepting them as the truth. Theres always people that go over the top on things, coincidentally I was more worried in the summer then during admin.. In a weired way. The way I saw it in admin we had dropped so much we were unlikely to drop further, those that said we were in danger were IMHO wrong. We would have been picked up by someone. In the summer ? There was a very real threat that the wheels were not only off but off down the road. The board were early on a little naive, thats not to say they didnt overcome the issues, they did, with aplomb. However the likelyhood of a similar situation having the same results must be slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 I was neither of those and certainly not concerned. It takes a lot to get me worried these days. I get weary, And sick of trying I'm tired of living, But scared of dying, That old Southampton, They just keep rolling along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 (edited) I first watched a Saints game at the Dell exactly 57 years ago last weekend. I've never stopped supporting them nor will I or my family. The one phrase that really pi££es me off when saying I'm a Saint is the reply 'Oh! You're the one'! Pathetic arrogance. Edited 15 January, 2015 by hasper57saint Word repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 I first watched a Saints game at the Dell exactly 57 years ago last weekend. I've never stopped supporting them nor will I or my family. The one phrase that really pi££es me off when saying I'm a Saint is the reply 'Oh! You're the one'! Pathetic arrogance. To which the response is "Yes, I'm an individual with a mind of my own, rather than a sheep" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 I first watched a Saints game at the Dell exactly 57 years ago last weekend. I've never stopped supporting them nor will I or my family. The one phrase that really pi££es me off when saying I'm a Saint is the reply 'Oh! You're the one'! Pathetic arrogance. "Someone's got to be"is another one To be fair though it's usually idiots who make these sort of comments they aren't worth talking to. There is a bird at work who was going on and on about buying her 4 year old son a Man United kit for Christmas.she lives near Burnley so I asked her why she didn't buy him a burnley kit instead, her reply was 'what would he want one of them for?' When I said it was his local team and he should grow up supporting them she looked at me like I'd just said he Was a retard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 And back on topic... Bobby slaphead combover Charlton esq the night before the '76 cup final predicted 6-0 to his bunch of bandidos....twunt! Hated him ever since..and a bit before that too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5string Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 The one that jumps out at me, not specifically Saints related but completely nuts in terms of the 'modern fan' is a vivid memory from 1996. I was working on a Saturday along with a mate of mine (also a Saints fan, Shirley boy), listening to the David Mellor football phone in thing he used to do. A call came in from Mo from Dagenham who was an 'angry Blackburn fan'. Blackburn in the previous two seasons bankrolled by Jack Walker had been runners up and winners of the Premier League, and had recently seen Alan Shearer depart to Newcastle. Mo's contribution in a thick London accent was that 'Jack Walker should be sacked, he's killing the club, and doesn't know what he's doing' - I kid you not. After expert probing from Mellor QC it transpired that Mo 'used to be an Arsenal fan' and had just bought a Blackburn shirt with Shearer on the back. Success always attracts floaters, some of them very dense floaters... He's now a 'used to be a Blackburn fan', I expect, and maybe even a 'used to be a Man City (Aguero on the back) fan', with his Chelski shirt (Hazard on the back) on order! I wonder if he could bring himself to order a Saints shirt with Pelle on the back should the unthinkable happen....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5string Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 To which the response is "Yes, I'm an individual with a mind of my own, rather than a sheep" Or you could just say, "Yes, like the Borg and you will be assimilated. Resistance is futile." Watch them sidle away squirming and leave you alone after that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 He's now a 'used to be a Blackburn fan', I expect, and maybe even a 'used to be a Man City (Aguero on the back) fan', with his Chelski shirt (Hazard on the back) on order! I wonder if he could bring himself to order a Saints shirt with Pelle on the back should the unthinkable happen....? Let's hope so, he's just the kind we will need going forward ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 Koeman had worked wonders at Feyenoord, but his record at AZ and Valencia was hardly spectacular. It's not hard to find other clubs not being overly wowed by his appointment (c.f http://www.redcafe.net/threads/ronald-koeman-watch.392824/ etc). I can't be arsed to follow the discussion, but the link provided this gem of a picture: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 (edited) Disagree. In the middle of the summer this is exactly the way the club's transfer policy could easily have been logically interpreted. We'd sold many of our better players, looked to be selling even more, and were seemingly replacing them with unknown quality. By Aug 1st-8th we had sold: Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren and Chambers (oh and allowed Pochettino to go). Whereas we had only replaced them with Tadic and Pelle (both considered to be potentially good signings, but risky). The consensus, both amongst our fanbase and many football 'experts' was that we had made a net income of £59 million (after signings), were rumoured to be seeing the last of both Morgan and Jay, and appeared to have a significantly weaker overall squad. We were only a week from our first game, and while Krueger was telling us that we would be stronger, many were doubting the intentions of the clubs ownership. Katharina was essentially in a position to re-coop her family's entire stake in the club, and make a 50-100% profit on the invested cash from player sales alone. The media were beginning to using the term 'asset strip' - mostly in articles refuting this scenario, but still in the context that this was a more than plausible explanation for events. (e.g. http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/06/just-what-is-going-on-at-southampton-4788879/, http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/southampton-transfer-news-saints-chairman-ralph-krueger-says-morgan-schneiderlin-and-jay-rodriguez-wont-be-leaving-st-marys-9636016.html, http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/11379498.COMMENT___This_can_t_be_an_asset_stripping_summer_for_Saints/ etc.) Overall, the best evidence that we were not engaged in an asset strip was the appointment of Koeman, and that £19m had been re-invested. 'Those who thought we were being asset stripped didnt know what an asset strip was' - is not a balance comment. There was certainly enough evidence to suggest that the owners were indeed engaged in an exercise in extracting capital from the club. There was not enough evidence to suggest that they were engaged in a full fire-sale, but a perfectly rational interpretation of events was that by early August the club were getting a substantial, but it appeared that they were only reinvesting the minimum needed to try to keep the team in the top flight (where the club's market value is maintained) - it was unknown where the excess capital was going, but one logical interpretation was that the owners were trying to remove capital from the club. Conclusion: Those who thought that we were engaged in an asset stripping exercise were fully aware of what an asset stripping exercise is, and were not being 'stupid'. This was a perfectly logical interpretation of events in early August. This^^^ was what was happening Edited 16 January, 2015 by SarniaSaint missed a word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 And back on topic... Bobby slaphead combover Charlton esq the night before the '76 cup final predicted 6-0 to his bunch of bandidos....twunt! Hated him ever since..and a bit before that too! Remember that LOL ...........what a jerk!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 19 January, 2015 Share Posted 19 January, 2015 Collegue at work,(who I haven't seen in a long while) came up to me a few minutes ago and said, 'You were lucky yesterday. Mind you, you were lucky against us at Christmas.' I stood there looking at him blankly 'Are you alright?' he asked. 'Yes, sorry pal. I was just a bit boggled thinking that Reading are the bottom of the Championship and we haven't played them since 2012, but then it dawned on me........You're supporting Chelsea again.' I think he's gone off for a poo and a cry. Everyone else laughed. And i'm a funny f...eller, apparently.:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 January, 2015 Share Posted 19 January, 2015 Collegue at work,(who I haven't seen in a long while) came up to me a few minutes ago and said, 'You were lucky yesterday. Mind you, you were lucky against us at Christmas.' I stood there looking at him blankly 'Are you alright?' he asked. 'Yes, sorry pal. I was just a bit boggled thinking that Reading are the bottom of the Championship and we haven't played them since 2012, but then it dawned on me........You're supporting Chelsea again.' I think he's gone off for a poo and a cry. Everyone else laughed. And i'm a funny f...eller, apparently.:lol: Priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 19 January, 2015 Share Posted 19 January, 2015 Collegue at work,(who I haven't seen in a long while) came up to me a few minutes ago and said, 'You were lucky yesterday. Mind you, you were lucky against us at Christmas.' I stood there looking at him blankly 'Are you alright?' he asked. 'Yes, sorry pal. I was just a bit boggled thinking that Reading are the bottom of the Championship and we haven't played them since 2012, but then it dawned on me........You're supporting Chelsea again.' I think he's gone off for a poo and a cry. Everyone else laughed. And i'm a funny f...eller, apparently.:lol: Excellent work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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