Greenridge Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Sorry if already posted but an interesting report on Sky Sports of some of the top Prem clubs total wage bills. Saints being at less than a quarter (or so) of Man City Man Utd and Chelsea. No surprises there but shows how much we are punching above our weight in relative performance terms. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9642781/premier-league-chelseas-wage-bill-rises-to-1631905m-a-year-but-is-still-lower-than-manchester-clubs
SNSUN Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Learning Falcao is on £350k a week, however true it is, made me a little bit sick and green with envy.
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Learning Falcao is on £350k a week, however true it is, made me a little bit sick and green with envy. Only £280,000 according to The Mail, if that makes you feel better
Delboy Dave Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Only £280,000 according to The Mail, if that makes you feel better It makes me feel better as it means it would only take me 10yrs to earn what he does it in a week rather than 12.5years. Will have a skip in my step tomorrow!
SNSUN Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Only £280,000 according to The Mail, if that makes you feel better Well that's much better. Fully deserved I say, he had a cracking game yesterday. Oh wait...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Madness How is that financial fair play
Hatch Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 wish I'd paid more attention in football class now
SNSUN Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 wish I'd paid more attention in football class now Me too, but the pies found me.
Redslo Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Madness How is that financial fair play They made a profit so it is FFP compliant. It is also salary cap compliant because the wage bill went up less than their increase in non-BPL TV income. (Also, I suspect the reported figure is total wages, not just player wages which are all that matter for the salary cap.) On the other hand, if you were asking how this could be consider fair? It cannot, but FFP was never intended to be fair in that sense. It was intended to reduce the ability of rich owners to buy success and make it less likely for all teams to go bankrupt.
Colinjb Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 May be worth noting that this figure is from our first year up. Will be interesting to see how we now compare.
Dan Johnson Posted 13 January, 2015 Posted 13 January, 2015 May be worth noting that this figure is from our first year up. Will be interesting to see how we now compare. In Uniteds case that doesn't include Falcao, Di Maria etc!! Wonder how that compares now?! Although I suppose the likes of Ferdinand, Giggs, Vidic have all left who must have been on high wages also
hutch Posted 13 January, 2015 Posted 13 January, 2015 They made a profit so it is FFP compliant. It is also salary cap compliant because the wage bill went up less than their increase in non-BPL TV income. (Also, I suspect the reported figure is total wages, not just player wages which are all that matter for the salary cap.) On the other hand, if you were asking how this could be consider fair? It cannot, but FFP was never intended to be fair in that sense. It was intended to reduce the ability of rich owners to buy success and make it less likely for all teams to go bankrupt. Can I suggest that it was intended to reduce the ability of any more rich owners to buy success. The incumbent rich owners are free to carry on buying success.
Winchester Red Posted 13 January, 2015 Posted 13 January, 2015 Am I the only that's thinking 'wow, we spend £47m on wages' Take off £7m for the non-playing staff and guys outside the top 20 in the squad and that leaves £40m for our top 20 players That's £2m per year each or £40k per week..... average! There's no way Targett or others scraping into the top 20 are on that so some must be pushing £3m a year Madness
Redslo Posted 13 January, 2015 Posted 13 January, 2015 Can I suggest that it was intended to reduce the ability of any more rich owners to buy success. The incumbent rich owners are free to carry on buying success. Their ability to buy success is much more limited. Surely both PSG and Manchester City (and maybe Chelsea) would have spent a lot more this summer if there were not restricted by FFP.
Redslo Posted 13 January, 2015 Posted 13 January, 2015 Am I the only that's thinking 'wow, we spend £47m on wages' Take off £7m for the non-playing staff and guys outside the top 20 in the squad and that leaves £40m for our top 20 players That's £2m per year each or £40k per week..... average! There's no way Targett or others scraping into the top 20 are on that so some must be pushing £3m a year Madness Yes, our better players do seem somewhat underpaid. I posted the Football Manager 2015 information on our salaries on my blog. http://redsloscf.blogspot.com/2015/01/southampton-weekly-salaries.html
Window Cleaner Posted 13 January, 2015 Posted 13 January, 2015 (edited) Learning Falcao is on £350k a week, however true it is, made me a little bit sick and green with envy. don't think that's right anyway, not even Monaco would be that stupid. He was on 1.2 million € a month net at Monaco, there's hardly any tax and social charges there so that makes it about a million £ a month gross in total. If he's on the same at Utd then he's on more like 240K a week. Edited 13 January, 2015 by Window Cleaner
The9 Posted 13 January, 2015 Posted 13 January, 2015 They made a profit so it is FFP compliant. It is also salary cap compliant because the wage bill went up less than their increase in non-BPL TV income. (Also, I suspect the reported figure is total wages, not just player wages which are all that matter for the salary cap.) On the other hand, if you were asking how this could be consider fair? It cannot, but FFP was never intended to be fair in that sense. It was intended to reduce the ability of rich owners to buy success and make it less likely for all teams to go bankrupt. Like anyone gives a toss about clubs going bankrupt other than to save face- the last time it nearly happened the Premier League forwarded the club's football debtors a load of the Parachute Payments in advance. Had they stayed up with the -9 I'm sure the Prem would have assisted them back to the Championship somehow. Surely it was intended so that the current top clubs could protect themselves against other people having more money than them and was basically pulling up the ladder on an even playing field altogether? Just underpins how massive our achievement is so far, but then we're not playing in Europe this season.
s0108787 Posted 13 January, 2015 Posted 13 January, 2015 Would the £47m not be inclusive of Tax , NI and Pensions etc for all staff?
Redslo Posted 13 January, 2015 Posted 13 January, 2015 Would the £47m not be inclusive of Tax , NI and Pensions etc for all staff? Yes.
BadgerBadger Posted 14 January, 2015 Posted 14 January, 2015 Yes, our better players do seem somewhat underpaid. I posted the Football Manager 2015 information on our salaries on my blog. http://redsloscf.blogspot.com/2015/01/southampton-weekly-salaries.html 3 of the top 4 make for poor business ref impact on our success per £: Alderweireld £78 Ramirez £55 Osvaldo £54 Long £50
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 14 January, 2015 Posted 14 January, 2015 don't think that's right anyway, not even Monaco would be that stupid. He was on 1.2 million € a month net at Monaco, there's hardly any tax and social charges there so that makes it about a million £ a month gross in total. If he's on the same at Utd then he's on more like 240K a week. How does the tax thing work now Windows? I remember a conversation we had where you were telling me about a large fine/payment Monaco had to make (was it to the league or govt, sorry I forget) on account of them not paying as much tax to players.
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