Roger Posted 11 January, 2015 Posted 11 January, 2015 We've got a real shot at champions league now. You think we will field a strong team?
Colinjb Posted 11 January, 2015 Posted 11 January, 2015 We will field a strong team, it's our philosophy. Whether that's wise is another conversation.
Batman Posted 11 January, 2015 Posted 11 January, 2015 can deffo see changes on Weds Long, Isgorve, Targett, Reed all bound to get game time
benjii Posted 11 January, 2015 Posted 11 January, 2015 Shame about Toby, I think we need to give McCarty some first team action on Weds as we might need him soon. -----------------------KD------------------------- McCarthy----Fonte-Gardos----Targett --------------Cork-----------------Reed------------- ------------------------Davis-------------------------- Isgrove---------------------------------------Tadic ---------------------------Long---------------------------
SFC Chris Posted 11 January, 2015 Posted 11 January, 2015 If we plan to play Long as a lone striker we may as well rest all the first teamers and accept defeat...
BlakeySFC Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 I hope not, play the kids, Champs League is the priority.
SNSUN Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 We've got a real shot at champions league now. You think we will field a strong team? We have a real shot at the FA Cup too...
Saint_clark Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Wouldn't it be great if we didn't have an annoying game midweek so could be fully refreshed for the Newcastle game...
Saintandy666 Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 i think despite what some people say, our team does have sufficient depth to make a *few* say 3-4 changes - and then subs later on - and still comfortably beat a championship side. I agree on playing Reed, Long, Targett etc, but don't think we need to overdo it. We can cope with a midweek game.
Dig Dig Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 The players are heavily incentivised on the league performance and not the cups so I would never count on us "going for the cups" whilst that's the case. That's regardless of the team selection.
Lorne Malvo Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 We have more chance of winning this than finishing top 4.
paulwantsapint Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 What is Ipswich's priority? Fa cup or promotion?
trousers Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 (edited) We have more chance of winning this than finishing top 4. We need to win 100% of our remaining FA Cup games to win the FA Cup but only 65% of our remaining league games to finish top 4. Any probability experts out there? Edit: actually, if we take every FA Cup game to a replay my statement is a load of old tosh so ignore me as you see fit Edited 12 January, 2015 by trousers
Dig Dig Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 What is Ipswich's priority? Fa cup or promotion? Promotion 100%
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 I hope not, play the kids, Champs League is the priority. I could hardly disagree more. We do have a chance now at a CL spot, and what a splendid achievement that would be, but realistically it is a outside chance I suspect - we are rather more likely to miss the target and end up with the unmitigated horror of the Europa League #shudders#. Even if we did get into the CL we are surely neither funded, or for that matter experienced enough, to long prosper at that exalted level of the game. On the other hand I see no reason to believe why we don't have some sort of real chance of getting to Wembley this season - with a bit of luck of course. I'm easily old enough to remember '76 and thus I know what it means - I say our younger fans deserve the same experience if we can manage it again.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Depends on the outcome of toby 's injury. If its more than a couple of weeks it would be madness to play Jose with yoshida away. Also Clynn can't be risked without those 2 as well. Pelle for long, would leave MS and victor out , playing Reed , JWP instead .
Saint Charlie Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Shame about Toby, I think we need to give McCarty some first team action on Weds as we might need him soon. -----------------------KD------------------------- McCarthy----Fonte-Gardos----Targett --------------Cork-----------------Reed------------- ------------------------Davis-------------------------- Isgrove---------------------------------------Tadic ---------------------------Long--------------------------- Would do this also. No poor players in that lineup, £20m front 3 should have enough.
CB Fry Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Wouldn't it be great if we didn't have an annoying game midweek so could be fully refreshed for the Newcastle game... Why would that be great? I'm looking forward to a important cup tie on national TV. Wouldn't it be great if we didn't have to read nonsense pretending that weaseling out of the FA Cup is some kind of magical rocket fuel that will take us to the Champions League. If we want to be a top level team, lets behave like one. Luckily our manager - a top level one - agrees with me.
Turkish Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Wouldn't it be great if we didn't have an annoying game midweek so could be fully refreshed for the Newcastle game... In all the hysteria of yesterday I forgot we still have some fans who wished Ipswich had beaten us.
Golden Balls Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 I've always said I'd rather win the FA Cup than finish top 4. Now it's possible, I'm torn. So I'll just take both. Thanks.
alpine_saint Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 RoKo made the comment just before the game that "we look fresh". If he really thinks that had an impact yesterday, we will field a changed team. Having said that, I still think we will have more than enough for Ipswich. Burley reckons they would beat Derby and us, I'd love us to show him up for talking out of his drunken arse again.
Saint_Ash Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Top 4 and FA cup trophy will do me. What happens if Chelsea or Man City win the CL? Does the Premier League get an extra place so it would be down to fifth to get a champs league place?
cdvdtz Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Top 4 and FA cup trophy will do me. What happens if Chelsea or Man City win the CL? Does the Premier League get an extra place so it would be down to fifth to get a champs league place? No, it would still just be the top 4. However if Arsenal were to win it and finish outside the top 4, they and the top 3 would qualify, leaving Europa League for the 4th placed team.
Wes Tender Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Luckily our manager - a top level one - agrees with me.I suspect that he made his own decision of his own volition, which just happens to coincide with yours, rather than agreeing with you. I doubt that he even knows of your existence
sadoldgit Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Both competitions are important and there is little point playing if you aren't bothered about winning.
Patrick Bateman Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Let's just do both. This. We are more than capable of resting some of the tired legs and beating Ipswich. I'd start Long, Tadic, Targett, Isgrove, Reed and KD.
Window Cleaner Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 No, it would still just be the top 4. However if Arsenal were to win it and finish outside the top 4, they and the top 3 would qualify, leaving Europa League for the 4th placed team. Still Arsenal to win the CL isn't very likely now is it. Back to Wednesday's game, think we might need to protect at least one of our CBs if not both, they're all we've got now so another injury would be sort of fatal. Haven't we got anyone in the youth sides who can play at CB against Ipswich ?
Sour Mash Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Still Arsenal to win the CL isn't very likely now is it. Back to Wednesday's game, think we might need to protect at least one of our CBs if not both, they're all we've got now so another injury would be sort of fatal. Haven't we got anyone in the youth sides who can play at CB against Ipswich ? Stephens and Turnbull are out on loan to Swindon. McCarthy is a CB for the Under 21s, but he's played 10 mins in total for the 1st team, Ipswich away would still be a big jump for him.
doddisalegend Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 I'm incapable of wanting saints to lose any game I want us to have crack at top four and the cup. If we do get European football next season are people going to suggest we put out weakened teams in Europe to concentrate on the PL? We should have resources to be competitive in the cup and the league.
Window Cleaner Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Stephens and Turnbull are out on loan to Swindon. McCarthy is a CB for the Under 21s, but he's played 10 mins in total for the 1st team, Ipswich away would still be a big jump for him. Sticky state of affairs then, it probably won't happen of course but if José or Gardos picked up an injury at any time in the near future we'd be up the creek, presuming that Toby's injury is as bad as it looked of course. Canal+ "experts" said at least a month...just looking at it mind.
aintforever Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 I would still put out a strong team but definitely keep some legs fresh for newcastle. ---------------------Fraser---------------------- Bertrand------Fonte--------Gardos------Targett --------------Cork-----------------Reed---------- ------------------------JWP-------------------------- Long--------------------------------------------Tadic -------------------------Pelle-----------------------
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Difficult - looking at our fixtures we have a real chance of top 4, only difficult games where I don't expect points is away at Chelsea and City.
Batman Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 one thing is for sure, we will not have a great chance as this season IMO
Saint_Ash Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 one thing is for sure, we will not have a great chance as this season IMO To do well in the cup? Why won't we do as well next season or the season after? A lot of the top teams are still in it right now.
Batman Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 To do well in the cup? Why won't we do as well next season or the season after? A lot of the top teams are still in it right now. great chance of top 4 finish, I should have said
Sour Mash Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 I would still put out a strong team but definitely keep some legs fresh for newcastle. ---------------------Fraser---------------------- Bertrand------Fonte--------Gardos------Targett --------------Cork-----------------Reed---------- ------------------------JWP-------------------------- Long--------------------------------------------Tadic -------------------------Pelle----------------------- Can Long not play as a lone forward? Obviously a different style of player to Pelle, but it is one change I would personally make.
shurlock Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Would expect Elia to start again. Has a lot of rust to knock of and we're reliant on his pace till Mané returns.
SaintBobby Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Would expect Elia to start again. Has a lot of rust to knock of and we're reliant on his pace till Mané returns. As explained elsewhere, he isn't eligible. Apparently, you can't play in a replay if you weren't registered for the first fixture
Sour Mash Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Would expect Elia to start again. Has a lot of rust to knock of and we're reliant on his pace till Mané returns. I thought he couldn't play as wasn't part of the squad for the first game?
Saint_Ash Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 great chance of top 4 finish, I should have said I agree with that, great chance.
S-Clarke Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Would expect Elia to start again. Has a lot of rust to knock of and we're reliant on his pace till Mané returns. He can't play in the cup game as he wasn't registered for the original tie.
Saint_Ash Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Can Long not play as a lone forward? Obviously a different style of player to Pelle, but it is one change I would personally make. I'd like to see long start up front and rest Pelle, also rest one of Morgan or Vic as the amount of running around in the centre of the pitch they do is phenomenal. I'd go with - ---------------------Fraser---------------------- Bertrand------Fonte--------Gardos------Targett --------------Morgan--------------Reed---------- ------------------------Tadic-------------------------- JWP--------------------------------------------Davis -------------------------Long----------------------- Rest Clyne as only came back from injury recently and 3 games in a week could be damaging. Interchange JWP/Davis/Tadic behind long and have the bull terrier Reed alongside Morgan and rest Big Vic, Morgan missing the Arse game should be a bit fresher. A bench of Clyne, Pelle, Wanyama, Cork (if fit), McCarthy and a couple of youngsters seems pretty strong.
CB Fry Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 I suspect that he made his own decision of his own volition, which just happens to coincide with yours, rather than agreeing with you. I doubt that he even knows of your existence Boo hoo hoo stop bullying me.
Cabrone Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Of course we'll bother, Ipswich were no great shakes and we should have beaten them the first time. Palace are beatable too and then we'd be in the 5th, 4 games from winning it. Apart from Chelsea and City we are a match for anyone esp at home. All steam ahead for Champs league and the cup.
Goalie66 Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 All this rest is nonsense. Most players would rather play than train. There are no guarantees that any player can get injured at any time. Koeman has already showed that he makes few changes and only through those enforced plus bedding in a few of the kids. Every game we want to win. Get used to it folks
whelk Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Why would that be great? I'm looking forward to a important cup tie on national TV. Wouldn't it be great if we didn't have to read nonsense pretending that weaseling out of the FA Cup is some kind of magical rocket fuel that will take us to the Champions League. If we want to be a top level team, lets behave like one. Luckily our manager - a top level one - agrees with me. We bloody better do.. Can't bear thought of a blank weekend if we go out. Just don't get people who don't want teh distraction. FFS stop buying into this bs that 90 minutes midweek leads to exhaustion on Saturday.
CB Fry Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 We bloody better do.. Can't bear thought of a blank weekend if we go out. Just don't get people who don't want teh distraction. FFS stop buying into this bs that 90 minutes midweek leads to exhaustion on Saturday. We're not a little team any more, we're not lucky plucky Southampton anymore, stop patronising us, we should be seen as a top side now, we are there on merit, stop looking down us but also let's gutlessly wimp out of the FA Cup because I don't think we've got the balls to play a handful of extra games on Saturdays so I really hope we totally bottle it and get knocked out because that's what the big teams do or something.
The Cat Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 Can Long not play as a lone forward? Obviously a different style of player to Pelle, but it is one change I would personally make. He can, but don't forget how toothless we were at Sheff Utd with him up top by himself. If we do go with him as the main striker he'll need a lot more support than he got that night. We could always start Long and then bring Pelle on if needs be I guess.
bilbot79 Posted 12 January, 2015 Posted 12 January, 2015 We have more chance of winning this than finishing top 4. Not according to the bookies
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