david in sweden Posted 7 January, 2015 Share Posted 7 January, 2015 (edited) well that's the view of former FIFA ref. Keith Hackett expressed in an interview published on the BBC sport site today. Hackett said the standard of refereeing he saw over the Christmas period was " bordering on appalling ".He counted 20 major errors and says some refs. should be downgraded. He's not alone in that judgement - is he? No wonder Prem. managers bite their tongues when interviewed and asked about " controversial decisions ", when they get punished for commenting. Can there be anything more frustrating than watching games, and seeing the replay of a goal from 6 different angles ...when blatant fouls and penalty shouts go unheeded. These type of incidents often affect the overall pattern of the game and eventually the final result. We must admit that the goal-line technology is a step forward (although I've only watched 4 games where it was brought into use) but it's only the tip of the iceberg when fouls occur all the time that go unpunished because the ref. was unsighted, or simply missed it..or worse.... was conned. Where the technology is available it should be used and not ignored. 99% correct decisions would enhance referees' reputations and not degrade them. Millions of people watch matches on TV - see the reality and like the players suffer the agony of those missed, game-changing bad decisions. I had to chuckle at Mourinho complaining that Refs. were campaigning against Chelsea by denying them penalties-especailly after seeing Cahill's recent acrobatics and Mourinho himself admitted that he had to speak to Oscar after Chelsea's game at SMS last season, when Oscar blatantly dived after leaving his foot behind KD's boot and fell dramatically into the area - PENALTY! .......and a real game-changer after 0-0 score at HT. Who'd be a referee? Yes it's a tough job, they do it as well as they can, but when such incidents can mean 3 points LOST, it can be the difference between winning, or losing a title, a Cup Final ...or (at worst) being doomed to relegation. Edited 7 January, 2015 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 7 January, 2015 Share Posted 7 January, 2015 Your spelling of the word appalling is appalling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 7 January, 2015 Author Share Posted 7 January, 2015 Your spelling of the word appalling is appalling 10/10 for observation, but aside from which.....do you disagree with the content ....or ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 7 January, 2015 Share Posted 7 January, 2015 BBC is quoting this: https://you-are-the-ref.com/time-for-a-review/ It looks like he's been taking lessons in paragraphs from Neil Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 7 January, 2015 Share Posted 7 January, 2015 10/10 for observation, but aside from which.....do you disagree with the content ....or ? I did put a smiley to indicate that it was a flippant comment, no more ! I do agree with your opinion on the matter but am not holding my breath for radical changes in the short term ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 7 January, 2015 Author Share Posted 7 January, 2015 more than that ....Hackett actually " outed " five refs. who he suggested " ought to be retired " or perhaps he meant "down-graded". Maybe the standard is less demanding in the Championship or L1. He cited; Andre Marriner, Mike Jones, Lee Mason, Chris Foy and Lee Probert. I'm not as familiar with the ref's concerned as I am with Prem. players, but does anyone agree with him on his choice...or do you have other " candidates" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 7 January, 2015 Author Share Posted 7 January, 2015 (edited) I did put a smiley to indicate that it was a flippant comment, no more ! I do agree with your opinion on the matter but am not holding my breath for radical changes in the short term ! Yes thanks, I understood that anyway..but I don't know whether to put it down to ; brain-fade, the onset of Alsheimers or my arthritic fingers Edited 7 January, 2015 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 January, 2015 Share Posted 7 January, 2015 Hackett's comments seem to be purely a self-publicising move, even if he was trying to undermine Mike Riley to take his job there's no way he'd be slating current referees because they'd be the people he'd have to manage. The most interesting thing I found in that article was basically part of the defence for referees, which noted how much more running they have to do and how many more sprints than 5 years ago when Hackett was last in charge - basically the pace of the game is going so much faster (and more long balls are a nightmare for refs too) that refs are going to be making judgements from further away, or from a state of tiredness, or whilst running rather than stood with a clear view of incidents - all of which are going to impact on the accuracy of decisions. Maybe it's time to consider a ref in each half for matches of a certain level? Or just get rid of them altogether and go to booth-based refs with the on-field official just responsible for conveying those decisions? Another move I'd hate for taking grassroots further away from the top level game, but the practicalities of refereeing do seem to be becoming a little unmanageable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 7 January, 2015 Share Posted 7 January, 2015 well that's the view of former FIFA ref. Keith Hackett expressed in an interview published on the BBC sport site today. Hackett said the standard of refereeing he saw over the Christmas period was " bordering on appalling ".He counted 20 major errors and says some refs. should be downgraded. He's not alone in that judgement - is he? No wonder Prem. managers bite their tongues when interviewed and asked about " controversial decisions ", when they get punished for commenting. Can there be anything more frustrating than watching games, and seeing the replay of a goal from 6 different angles ...when blatant fouls and penalty shouts go unheeded. These type of incidents often affect the overall pattern of the game and eventually the final result. We must admit that the goal-line technology is a step forward (although I've only watched 4 games where it was brought into use) but it's only the tip of the iceberg when fouls occur all the time that go unpunished because the ref. was unsighted, or simply missed it..or worse.... was conned. Where the technology is available it should be used and not ignored. 99% correct decisions would enhance referees' reputations and not degrade them. Millions of people watch matches on TV - see the reality and like the players suffer the agony of those missed, game-changing bad decisions. I had to chuckle at Mourinho complaining that Refs. were campaigning against Chelsea by denying them penalties-especailly after seeing Cahill's recent acrobatics and Mourinho himself admitted that he had to speak to Oscar after Chelsea's game at SMS last season, when Oscar blatantly dived after leaving his foot behind KD's boot and fell dramatically into the area - PENALTY! .......and a real game-changer after 0-0 score at HT. Who'd be a referee? Yes it's a tough job, they do it as well as they can, but when such incidents can mean 3 points LOST, it can be the difference between winning, or losing a title, a Cup Final ...or (at worst) being doomed to relegation. But you still have to look at the match in its entirety. Yes the referee may make a wrong decision re a penalty but in the last set of highlights that I watched I saw a player miss an open goal from inside the 6 yard box - that is surely as influential a reason for losing as any decision of the refs. Its more convenient to claim that the ref influenced the result though. Is a ref responsible for a player being too slow in moving forward in an offside trap? or failing to mark up properly? I agree that the standard of reffing has been poorer than usual this year but players and managers make life harder and harder for them and then moan like hell when their pressure succeeds in causing a string a dodgy decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 7 January, 2015 Share Posted 7 January, 2015 Yes thanks, I understood that anyway..but I don't know whether to put it down to ; brain-fade, the onset of Alsheimers or my arthritic fingers Could be any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 January, 2015 Author Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Could be any of them. .....or all in combination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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