Dalek2003 Posted 7 January, 2015 Share Posted 7 January, 2015 A draw would be good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 7 January, 2015 Share Posted 7 January, 2015 A draw would be good enough. A win would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 7 January, 2015 Share Posted 7 January, 2015 A draw would be good enough. A win would be great. A loss would be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 January, 2015 Share Posted 7 January, 2015 Match abandoned due to floodlight failure would be frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 7 January, 2015 Share Posted 7 January, 2015 A draw would be good enough. A win would be great. A loss would be bad. Match abandoned due to floodlight failure would be frustrating. The world will end on Saturday, so these are all moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 7 January, 2015 Share Posted 7 January, 2015 The world will end on Saturday, so these are all moot. Not again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 (edited) Weather reports up here look grim for the weekend. Keep 'em peeled if travelling up. Edited 8 January, 2015 by jasonb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 SaintsWeb Preview: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/content.php?548-PREVIEW-Manchester-United-vs-SAINTS-BarclaysPremierLeague Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Had look at utd fans take on the game at red café http://www.redcafe.net/matches/manchester-united-vs-southampton.26/discussion?page=5 interesting take on our game against arsenal didn't see quite like that myself Pretty even game with slightly better chances for Le Arse, but Saints were quite clinical and Szczesny and Arsenal's defence comical. Saints obviously missed Schneiderlin in that game though. Every time Arsenal moved the ball fast Saints had problems though, especially the pace of Sanchez was quite handy for the Gunners. They missed a couple of sitters, so if we move the ball clever and quickly we should be able to cut through them. Looks like their defence (which was pretty ropey anyway) is pretty injury ravaged so I think we should be able to get at them I'm feeling quite confident (as long as JWP isn't playing RB again) we can get a result. I'd quite like to do a bit of daylight robbery to them like they did to us at SMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Is there a presser today or is it tomorrow due to the game being on a Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Is there a presser today or is it tomorrow due to the game being on a Sunday? Think it'll be tomorrow with them flying up tomorrow afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 (edited) Right, massive game at Old Trafford, one I'd really want to win. Win, and it's great, and lose, well, possibly drop out of top 4, depending on Spurs result, but not the end of the world. Team picks itself tbh: Forster Clyne Fonte Alderweireld Bertrand Morgan Wanyama Davis Long Pelle Tadic Unless we play 352: Forster Fonte Alderweireld Gardos Clyne Bertrand (as wing backs) Morgan Wanyama Davis Tadic Long Pelle Hoping to see Elia play a part at one point, Koeman knows more than me though, he may even start! Away tickets still up for sale I believe, and game is on a Sunday 4pm kickoff, live on Sky Sports. Prediction: I'm feeling optimistic that we nick it 1-0, with Pelle hopefully Given Man U's weaknesses at the back and strength going forward I can't see us NOT playing with 2 wide men if they're going to play 3-5-2, it's the de facto tactical trump card to sit wingers in behind their wing backs and pull their CBs wide. We'd be 4-2-3-1 then (much as I'd like to field 12 as above...). A side with a good defence and decent attack will usually beat a side with a poor defence and great attack, though much could depend on whether Herrera and Carrick play as they give them some semblance of solidity. That will be especially effective if one of them is Elia on his debut, which is think is a possibility ahead of Long. They won't have a clue what to expect. We need to attack them, as their defence is toilet and ours isn't. Our defence is sound as long as it's Forster; Clyne, Fonte, Alderweireld, Bertrand plus Schneiderlin, Wanyama shielding. Edited 8 January, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 They're dodgy at the back, I'd keep JWP in for set pieces, maybe instead of Long and play him further forward. 451/433. Just as long as he isn't shoe horned in at RB again. Is there any news on Clyne is fit again now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Given Man U's weaknesses at the back and strength going forward I can't see us NOT playing with 2 wide men if they're going to play 3-5-2, it's the de facto tactical trump card to sit wingers in behind their wing backs and pull their CBs wide. We'd be 4-2-3-1 then (much as I'd like to field 12 as above...). A side with a good defence and decent attack will usually beat a side with a poor defence and great attack, though much could depend on whether Herrera and Carrick play as they give them some semblance of solidity. That will be especially effective if one of them is Elia on his debut, which is think is a possibility ahead of Long. They won't have a clue what to expect. We need to attack them, as their defence is toilet and ours isn't. Our defence is sound as long as it's Forster; Clyne, Fonte, Alderweireld, Bertrand plus Schneiderlin, Wanyama shielding. Van Gaal must know a fair bit about Elia though, even if their defence hasn't playd against him before. It's weird, Man Utd's defence looks poor on paper and their attack looks great, but they haven't scored or conceded the huge amounts you might expect as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 8 January, 2015 Author Share Posted 8 January, 2015 (edited) Just as long as he isn't shoe horned in at RB again. Is there any news on Clyne is fit again now? likely to found out tomorrow when koeman has his press conference. Edited 8 January, 2015 by nta786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Think it'll be tomorrow with them flying up tomorrow afternoon. Would they not fly up Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Van Gaal must know a fair bit about Elia though, even if their defence hasn't playd against him before. It's weird, Man Utd's defence looks poor on paper and their attack looks great, but they haven't scored or conceded the huge amounts you might expect as a result. Fair point on Elia, but it's not just the player, it's how he'd fit our system and how that would interact with their system (especially difficult to predict when they're getting injury upon injury at the back). There's an element of Carrick protecting their awful back line there - they've won 70% of matches with him in the side this season (and drawn the other 30%). He didn't play until November and they won the first 7 matches he played having not won the 3 before - but yeah, up until then, 4-0 defeat to MK Dons, beating QPR 4-0, and leaking 5 at Leicester aside, most of their matches were 2 or under goals from each team. Not really sure why that's happened, maybe their game management, enough players to control tempo and keep the score down when they had no right to be in touch, but without being able to impose themselves for long enough to make chances? Would probably have to look at specific stats like possession and chances created and I don't have any access to those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Fair point on Elia, but it's not just the player, it's how he'd fit our system and how that would interact with their system (especially difficult to predict when they're getting injury upon injury at the back). There's an element of Carrick protecting their awful back line there - they've won 70% of matches with him in the side this season (and drawn the other 30%). He didn't play until November and they won the first 7 matches he played having not won the 3 before - but yeah, up until then, 4-0 defeat to MK Dons, beating QPR 4-0, and leaking 5 at Leicester aside, most of their matches were 2 or under goals from each team. Not really sure why that's happened, maybe their game management, enough players to control tempo and keep the score down when they had no right to be in touch, but without being able to impose themselves for long enough to make chances? Would probably have to look at specific stats like possession and chances created and I don't have any access to those. I guess De Gea has made a significant difference. But considering their forward line of Van Persie, Falcao, Di Maria, Mata, Rooney etc, they really haven't scored that many (hoping I've not jinxed Sunday). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 (edited) I guess De Gea has made a significant difference. But considering their forward line of Van Persie, Falcao, Di Maria, Mata, Rooney etc, they really haven't scored that many (hoping I've not jinxed Sunday). De Gea's been playing all season, 50% win percentage, would have to look at his save percentages, shots faced, all that stuff. But he's certainly had a couple of top-drawer high-profile games... as well as Leicester. I'm hoping you haven't jinxed it either, I've actually bet on us to win for the first time in years, 4/1 is value alright. Edited 8 January, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourne Valley Saint Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 "Unless we play 352: Forster Fonte Alderweireld Gardos Clyne Bertrand (as wing backs) Morgan Wanyama Davis Tadic Long Pelle" I know the refereeing has been poor lately but even the ref should spot the numerical advantage in that selection!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Team picks itself IMO: ------------------Forster------------------ Clyne-----Fonte------Toby-----Bertrand -----------Morgan-----Wanayama------ -----------------------Davis--------------------- Tadic---------------------------------Elia ------------------Pelle------------------ Barring injuries we don't know about I would be suprised to see much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScratchySaint Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Apologies if this is in the wrong thread... I've won a pair of tickets for the Newcastle away match next saturday and i can't get down there, therefore I'm giving them away. The only negative is that they are allocated in the home end and can't be changed (i didn't read the terms before entering). If anyone wants them, they're welcome but will have to pick them up from west totton. I should get them around wednesday i'd imagine. text me on 07469891984, first come first serve. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 8 January, 2015 Author Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Apologies if this is in the wrong thread... I've won a pair of tickets for the Newcastle away match next saturday and i can't get down there, therefore I'm giving them away. The only negative is that they are allocated in the home end and can't be changed (i didn't read the terms before entering). If anyone wants them, they're welcome but will have to pick them up from west totton. I should get them around wednesday i'd imagine. text me on 07469891984, first come first serve. Cheers. Other than as set out in the terms and conditions of entry and below, you may not transfer the Prize to anybody. The unauthorised sale or disposal of tickets is a criminal offence under section 166 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, as amended by the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 lol narc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScratchySaint Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Other than as set out in the terms and conditions of entry and below, you may not transfer the Prize to anybody. The unauthorised sale or disposal of tickets is a criminal offence under section 166 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, as amended by the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006. did you make up barclays rules for their tickets then? No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilbot79 Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Lol. Tube tickets are non transferable too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScratchySaint Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 'The Prize may be passed on to friends or relatives but you will still be held responsible to the fullest extent permitted by law for any actions involving the use of the tickets by the transferee. Tickets cannot be sold or taken as cash.' Not sure why trying to be nice to people gets this reaction.. ah well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Think we'll miss Mane. Hoping Tadic and Pelle have a good game, if they do and everyone else plays like they usually do, I think we'll win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Anyone know how many we have sold, surprised they are still on general sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 8 January, 2015 Author Share Posted 8 January, 2015 did you make up barclays rules for their tickets then? No? i was kidding with you mate, just warning you if you get caught Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintTex Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 I am continually torn on JWP's place on this team. I like him, no question about that. He is the best we got, by far, for set pieces. 2nd best isn't even close. So, you want him out there. but on the other hand, with our current roster, he doesn't quite have the quality to be a no-brainer first team starter; no matter who we play or what formation we use. Maybe with time or roster attrition, but right now it is a puzzler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 I am continually torn on JWP's place on this team. I like him, no question about that. He is the best we got, by far, for set pieces. 2nd best isn't even close. So, you want him out there. but on the other hand, with our current roster, he doesn't quite have the quality to be a no-brainer first team starter; no matter who we play or what formation we use. Maybe with time or roster attrition, but right now it is a puzzler. Whats a 'roster attrition'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 Whats a 'roster attrition'? First team injuries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA SaintsFan Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 How about a good old chant of Who the **** are Man United for this one. Loud enough I can here it on the television! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 NBC knocked up a short promo video on their Facebook page: Nothing that amazing about that but normally I'd expect to see the comments dominated by Man Utd fans - not this time - there's just as many Saints' fans on there. I guess it's been linked/shared elsewhere? Still looks good seeing all the 'come on you Saints' on it though. Feeling good about this one. 3-1 to Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 theres a lot of people hopeful about this one. I'm not. Utd's home record is excellent and they're on a great run. Think we'll lose 2-1 unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 Shame Utd look to have a few players back for this one, but they aren't all that. If Di Maria, Rooney etc are on their game then there isnt a lot you can do about it but hopefully we have Clyne back and our best currently available team out and we will definitely give their backline some problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 theres a lot of people hopeful about this one. I'm not. Utd's home record is excellent and they're on a great run. Think we'll lose 2-1 unfortunately. I think we'll play well, test them and just, just miss out on a reesult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 I'm heading up to Manchester this afternoon for 2 days/ nights on the lash before the game. Looking forward to it, as SM says above I suspect we'll play well, get a goal, miss at least 2 good chances and regret it when Rooney nicks a last minute winner. This will be my 4th trip to OT, definitely the most confident I've ever been going up there (despite my natural SFC pessimism above), really feel our side is a match for anyone in this league home or away. United won't be looking forward to playing us and I hope RK has our lot fired up for this, massive opportunity to make a statement that we're legitimate contenders for 4th place. If we win (given United's excellent recent league form) everything is wide open! United always seem to find a way at OT though. Anyway, how many tickets have we sold? £46 on a Sunday afternoon for a match on Sky isn't ideal, but I'd hope for 3,000 TBH. To anyone staying overnight, have a top time, Manchester one of my favourite Cities (not just in the UK), great history, bars, food, music etc with a genuine identity. Sh** weather though, no chance I could live up there :-). Up the Saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 How about a good old chant of Who the **** are Man United for this one. Loud enough I can here it on the television! Because it's basically a United song, they've reclaimed it. United hear/ heard it everywhere they go/ went and absolutely love ramming it down the throats of those stupid enough to sing it when they inevitably score a jammy 89th minute winner. If we're 3-0 in injury time we might give it a blast though ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 I'm heading up to Manchester this afternoon for 2 days/ nights on the lash before the game. Looking forward to it, as SM says above I suspect we'll play well, get a goal, miss at least 2 good chances and regret it when Rooney nicks a last minute winner. This will be my 4th trip to OT, definitely the most confident I've ever been going up there (despite my natural SFC pessimism above), really feel our side is a match for anyone in this league home or away. United won't be looking forward to playing us and I hope RK has our lot fired up for this, massive opportunity to make a statement that we're legitimate contenders for 4th place. If we win (given United's excellent recent league form) everything is wide open! United always seem to find a way at OT though. Anyway, how many tickets have we sold? £46 on a Sunday afternoon for a match on Sky isn't ideal, but I'd hope for 3,000 TBH. To anyone staying overnight, have a top time, Manchester one of my favourite Cities (not just in the UK), great history, bars, food, music etc with a genuine identity. Sh** weather though, no chance I could live up there :-). Up the Saints! I don't reckon we'll have more than 1k up there. Understandable all things considered. I obviously want us to win every game, but winning away at Old Trafford to go above them and go third would be pretty sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 Interesting to see the contrast between the fans forums, some of you guys are so pessimistic in your selections that you have chosen extra players, while over on the united forums they're so confident they're picking only 10 to start! hasman0007utd: I think we have to win... We will then be 4 points ahead of 4th but if we lose, we will be 4th! DDG, Shaw, Smalling, Jones, Carrick, Herrera, Di Maria, Rooney, Robin, Falcao 4-4-2 diamond Bench: Valdes, Mcnair, Blind, Fellaini (think he should be back), Januzaj, Mata, Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 I'm looking forward to this one, a win would be excellent but I think I'd take a draw provided we go and beat Newcastle. I'd go with: Forster Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand Schneiderlin Wanyama Davis JWP Pelle Elia For me JWP is in better form than Tadic at the moment as shown by his assist stats, plus he's due a goal surely? Missing Mane is a shame (wouldn't have said that three weeks ago) so I think Elia has to start. Bench also looks a little stronger with Long and Tadic to come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 2pm... [video=youtube_share;o9cXMN8KSJs] Bets on the first journo question? I'll go for: "So, Ronald, about being linked to the Barcelona job...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 Oh no, we've been lumbered with the unfit Phil Dowd for this one. Who would you prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 I'm looking forward to this one, a win would be excellent but I think I'd take a draw provided we go and beat Newcastle. I'd go with: Forster Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand Schneiderlin Wanyama Davis JWP Pelle Elia For me JWP is in better form than Tadic at the moment as shown by his assist stats, plus he's due a goal surely? Missing Mane is a shame (wouldn't have said that three weeks ago) so I think Elia has to start. Bench also looks a little stronger with Long and Tadic to come on. The Tadic v JWP question is an interesting one, can see arguments for both. Tadic is still a better overall player in my eyes, but we're utterly useless at set pieces without JWP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 2pm... [video=youtube_share;o9cXMN8KSJs] Bets on the first journo question? I'll go for: "So, Ronald, about being linked to the Barcelona job...." Or... Aren't Man Utd a wonderfully attacking team! Don't you agree? Or... So your history with Van Gaal... Or... Morgan Schneiderlin moving to Arsenal... It wouldn't surprise me if they asked for his opinions on the French attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 JWP just isnt a threat from open play going forward, certainly not as part of a front three. It would just enable Shaw to get forward more and more, you have to have a threat in these type of games otherwise they just pin you in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 Clyne pictured on our Instagram page picking up an EA award, wearing a training top. The top could be just for show possibly but hopefully a suggestion he's back in training and therefore alright for Sunday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/09/southampton-ronald-koeman-tonny-bruins-slot Born winner Ronald Koeman’s mindset can guide Southampton into top four Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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