Faz Posted 25 August, 2019 Posted 25 August, 2019 I see Reed has managed 11 minutes of game time at Fulham. Not sure he is, or ever was, the answer for us.
Turkish Posted 25 August, 2019 Posted 25 August, 2019 Stephens is not a DM. He has NEVER played there. He has, he played there whilst he was on loan at Swindon I think it was. He was pretty crap. I really have no idea why people think he’d make a good defensive midfielder. It seems to be based on the fact has okay on the ball. It’s on thing to carry the ball ten yards with the whole game in front of you, quite another to do it in a central midfield battle with players flying in from all angles. Good defensive midfielders also need to be able to read the game and be very good positionally, Stephens isn’t much good at either. He’s simply not good enough.
Useful Idiot Posted 25 August, 2019 Posted 25 August, 2019 He has, he played there whilst he was on loan at Swindon I think it was. He was pretty crap. I really have no idea why people think he’d make a good defensive midfielder. It seems to be based on the fact has okay on the ball. It’s on thing to carry the ball ten yards with the whole game in front of you, quite another to do it in a central midfield battle with players flying in from all angles. Good defensive midfielders also need to be able to read the game and be very good positionally, Stephens isn’t much good at either. He’s simply not good enough. Given the fact he causes chaos in the penalty area, maybe we should try him up front?
Suhari Posted 25 August, 2019 Posted 25 August, 2019 Wasn't Reed described as the most talented player to ever come through our academy? By another bloke called Reed I think.
Danbert Posted 22 June, 2020 Posted 22 June, 2020 http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2020/june/22/man-of-the-match-result Could he do a job for us if Høbjerg's off?
Mozz Posted 22 June, 2020 Posted 22 June, 2020 Worth noting that Fulham have the option to make permanent so even if his performance levels are at a point where we might want him back it could be out of our hands: Quote The Club is delighted to announce the signing of midfielder Harrison Reed from Southampton, subject to clearance. Reed joins Fulham on a season-long loan deal, which could be made permanent at a later date. https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2019/august/08/harrison-reed-arrives-at-fulham
SuperSAINT Posted 22 June, 2020 Posted 22 June, 2020 2 hours ago, Danbert said: http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2020/june/22/man-of-the-match-result Could he do a job for us if Høbjerg's off? He’s done well there. He’s 25 now and needs a permanent move, IMO. I think he’d do a job for us, but we should be looking higher.
Baird of the land Posted 22 June, 2020 Posted 22 June, 2020 Replacement for hojberg, no. replacement for Romeu, maybe but then we may feel we might be able to get some fee off Fulham which would be of more value to us.
SW5 SAINT Posted 22 June, 2020 Posted 22 June, 2020 8 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: He’s done well there. He’s 25 now and needs a permanent move, IMO. I think he’d do a job for us, but we should be looking higher. Should be looking higher, and actually looking and being able to afford higher are two very different things. He now sounds like exactly the type of championship player we actually look at...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 June, 2020 Posted 22 June, 2020 1 hour ago, SW5 SAINT said: Should be looking higher, and actually looking and being able to afford higher are two very different things. He now sounds like exactly the type of championship player we actually look at... He's done well for himself. He's had to graft at all the clubs he's been at to prove himself. Norwich / Blackburn / Fulham have given him some really good experience. I'm surprised he didn't get loaned out earlier in his career by us.
Mr Saints Posted 23 June, 2020 Posted 23 June, 2020 Always thought he had something to offer us. Wouldn't be against him being involved next season.
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 June, 2020 Posted 23 June, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr Saints said: Always thought he had something to offer us. Wouldn't be against him being involved next season. Ditto
Danbert Posted 23 June, 2020 Posted 23 June, 2020 14 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: He's done well for himself. He's had to graft at all the clubs he's been at to prove himself. Norwich / Blackburn / Fulham have given him some really good experience. I'm surprised he didn't get loaned out earlier in his career by us. Indeed, it doesn't seem like Saints have handled his development very well. I hadn't realized he was 25, thougyht he was much younger. Either he needs to be involved with the first team or be moved on.
Charlie Wayman Posted 23 June, 2020 Posted 23 June, 2020 1 hour ago, Danbert said: Indeed, it doesn't seem like Saints have handled his development very well. I hadn't realized he was 25, thougyht he was much younger. Either he needs to be involved with the first team or be moved on. Why do we hang onto him? Another of those gold plated Reed contracts of 4 1/2 years. Just do a deal with the Cottagers and get some money back. He was always too slow on the ball and in his decision making which didn't work in the Premier League as we saw when he played for us. No way would he be able to cope with Ralph's ever more frenetic style of football?
waylander Posted 23 June, 2020 Posted 23 June, 2020 Fulham are very much in with a chance of being in the PL next season so one way or another we'll find out if he is PL quality. I'm inclined to think he is, and we should be using him if PEH is off.
egg Posted 23 June, 2020 Posted 23 June, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: Why do we hang onto him? Another of those gold plated Reed contracts of 4 1/2 years. Just do a deal with the Cottagers and get some money back. He was always too slow on the ball and in his decision making which didn't work in the Premier League as we saw when he played for us. No way would he be able to cope with Ralph's ever more frenetic style of football? If we get his wages covered and a loan fee, which I understand is what has happened with Reed, then his contract makes a lot of sense. As things stand, we'll either have him back or sell him. Not bad business really, but the lad has definitely had an odd career and imo hasn't maximised his talent. Edited 23 June, 2020 by egg
rooney Posted 24 June, 2020 Posted 24 June, 2020 He has had his chance with us in the PL and a Championship player at best. Has done well with Fulham so I hope they sign him and we get some money in to buy players.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 June, 2020 Posted 24 June, 2020 On 6/23/2020 at 9:07 AM, Mr Saints said: Always thought he had something to offer us. Wouldn't be against him being involved next season. I would be against it.
Mr Brightside Posted 24 June, 2020 Posted 24 June, 2020 (edited) Can’t say I’ve been following his progress closely, but seems to be playing well and looks like he’s improved. If Ralph and co think he’s improved enough to do a job for us, I’d gladly have him back. Edited 24 June, 2020 by Mr Brightside
SuperSAINT Posted 5 July, 2020 Posted 5 July, 2020 https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/class-act-pay-him-whatever-he-wants-plenty-of-fulham-fans-urging-club-to-sign-pl-man/
skintsaint Posted 6 July, 2020 Posted 6 July, 2020 Could prob get 8m or so for him if Fulham get promoted. Maybe he has impressed RH though on loan and could be involved next season though. Knowing us we will just loan him out again for a full season.
igsey Posted 6 July, 2020 Posted 6 July, 2020 Can't imagine he would be keen on a return to St Mary's. Fulham fans love him, we've just farmed him out on loan every season, he'll either move on a perm to Fulham or back on loan and run his contract down.
Baird of the land Posted 6 July, 2020 Posted 6 July, 2020 Don't see the value in loaning him back there. Surely another promoted club would be interested in purchasing him even if Fulham aren't promoted, a bit like the Targett situation
SuperSAINT Posted 6 July, 2020 Posted 6 July, 2020 1 hour ago, Baird of the land said: Don't see the value in loaning him back there. Surely another promoted club would be interested in purchasing him even if Fulham aren't promoted, a bit like the Targett situation They have an option to buy.
S-Clarke Posted 6 July, 2020 Posted 6 July, 2020 6 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: They have an option to buy. I didn't realise that. I wonder how much?
SuperSAINT Posted 6 July, 2020 Posted 6 July, 2020 11 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I didn't realise that. I wonder how much? Yeah, would be interesting to know. The link is above - posted by Mozz. It’s from the Fulham OS.
Saint Troy Posted 6 July, 2020 Posted 6 July, 2020 1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said: Yeah, would be interesting to know. The link is above - posted by Mozz. It’s from the Fulham OS. "Reed joins Fulham on a season-long loan deal, which could be made permanent at a later date." Is that definitely an option to buy?
S-Clarke Posted 6 July, 2020 Posted 6 July, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Saint Troy said: "Reed joins Fulham on a season-long loan deal, which could be made permanent at a later date." Is that definitely an option to buy? That's usually the sort of wording they use when it's an option to buy, doesn't sound like a set arranged transfer like we had with Ings, more of an option if they are able to. Could be all sorts of requirements around it though - only kicks in if they get promoted etc, but it sounds like they have an option of sorts. Would be interested to know what we valued him at. Obviously it's still relying on him agreeing to move their on a perm though, he doesn't have to. He could have plenty of suitors. Edited 6 July, 2020 by S-Clarke
SuperSAINT Posted 6 July, 2020 Posted 6 July, 2020 5 minutes ago, Saint Troy said: "Reed joins Fulham on a season-long loan deal, which could be made permanent at a later date." Is that definitely an option to buy? I know what you mean, but it sounds like an option to me.
Saint Troy Posted 6 July, 2020 Posted 6 July, 2020 i know what you mean - there must be something there - think i just feel he has something from what ive seen, and sounds like the recent reports show hes doiing well - albeit in championship - i think im just hoping he stays and proves his worth
waylander Posted 7 July, 2020 Posted 7 July, 2020 He is playing very well in a side at the top of the Championship. If he was not our player there would be plenty of noise on this board that we should be trying to sign him.
saintwbu Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 Man of the match tonight for Fulham by the sounds of it - trending on Twitter because it’s full of Fulham fans pleading for their club to sign him permanently. A number of shouts of ‘Ginger Kante’ and being better than Kalvin Phillips. I was always surprised Ralph didn’t take a closer look, he seems on the face of it to be a perfect fit for our style.
SuperSAINT Posted 10 July, 2020 Posted 10 July, 2020 18 minutes ago, saintwbu said: Man of the match tonight for Fulham by the sounds of it - trending on Twitter because it’s full of Fulham fans pleading for their club to sign him permanently. A number of shouts of ‘Ginger Kante’ and being better than Kalvin Phillips. I was always surprised Ralph didn’t take a closer look, he seems on the face of it to be a perfect fit for our style. If Ralph doesn’t want to take a look, there will be no shortage of takers for him.
SuperSAINT Posted 11 July, 2020 Posted 11 July, 2020 https://hammyend.com/index.php/2020/07/why-we-need-to-sign-harrison-reed/
Lord Duckhunter Posted 11 July, 2020 Posted 11 July, 2020 On 10/07/2020 at 23:04, SuperSAINT said: If Ralph doesn’t want to take a look, there will be no shortage of takers for him. Pony. They’ll be no clubs finishing above us this season wanting to sign him. I doubt there’s any current premier league side, bar the bottom 3 that’ll be interested .
SuperSAINT Posted 11 July, 2020 Posted 11 July, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Pony. They’ll be no clubs finishing above us this season wanting to sign him. I doubt there’s any current premier league side, bar the bottom 3 that’ll be interested . Championship clubs
Nolan Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 We will need a replacement for Pierre. why on earth sign someone when we've got someone who is solid in defence and his link up play on the books? 1
Suhari Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 1 hour ago, Nolan said: We will need a replacement for Pierre. why on earth sign someone when we've got someone who is solid in defence and his link up play on the books? Can you imagine the meltdown on here is we sell PEH for 30m and his replacement is Harry Reed?!
S-Clarke Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 Just now, Suhari said: Can you imagine the meltdown on here is we sell PEH for 30m and his replacement is Harry Reed?! If i'm truly honest I don't believe the club will 'replace' Pierre. They will use those funds in other areas, and look to the likes of Smallbone/Jankewitz and possibly Reed to fill that role.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 48 minutes ago, Suhari said: Can you imagine the meltdown on here is we sell PEH for 30m and his replacement is Harry Reed?! Rightly so, it’ll be a horrific decision.
washsaint Posted 12 July, 2020 Author Posted 12 July, 2020 On 14/08/2019 at 13:55, benjii said: What an idiotic and stupid statement. One of the players of the season for us. He's not a defender either.
Nolan Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 2 hours ago, Suhari said: Can you imagine the meltdown on here is we sell PEH for 30m and his replacement is Harry Reed?! We need centre backs, KWP or other RB and someone to deputise for Bertrand (if Vokins isn't quite ready) I'd rather 30 mill went in that direction.
ErwinK1961 Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 11 minutes ago, LeG said: The club share the same view as you. I hope not. We needed a midfielder prior to PEH being sold, if he goes and we don’t replace him that would be bizarre. Propping up one of the most important positions in Ralph’s system with untested youth players is a recipe for disaster.
Matthew Le God Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: I hope not. We needed a midfielder prior to PEH being sold, if he goes and we don’t replace him that would be bizarre. Propping up one of the most important positions in Ralph’s system with untested youth players is a recipe for disaster. Harrison Reed is older than Hojbjerg! He is 25 years old and has a lot of 1st team games in the last 3 seasons under his belt now. Edited 12 July, 2020 by Matthew Le God 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 27 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Harrison Reed is older than Hojbjerg! He is 25 years old and has a lot of 1st team games in the last 3 seasons under his belt now. He’s not good enough
SuperSAINT Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 29 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Harrison Reed is older than Hojbjerg! He is 25 years old and has a lot of 1st team games in the last 3 seasons under his belt now. Would you replace Hojbjerg, MLG?
Matthew Le God Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: He’s not good enough Are you sure? He has been extremely impressive recently from the few Fulham games I've seen on TV. Have you considered he may have now have improved to a level he could be useful for us? Edited 12 July, 2020 by Matthew Le God
S-Clarke Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 Just now, Lord Duckhunter said: He’s not good enough I don't know, it's a tricky one. I think if we were looking at it if he wasn't our player, we'd be kind of happy to be linked with one of the best championship midfielders. But I guess we've seen him at this level before and he has flittered in and out a bit. He could just be a very good Championship player and no more, but the club will know that better than us.
Matthew Le God Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Would you replace Hojbjerg, MLG? I haven't really seen enough of Reed recently to know if he has improved to the level we need. But in the Fulham games I have seen on TV recently he has performed extremely well for one of the best teams in that league. Signing another player blocks pathways for Jankewitz and Smallbone. If Reed is considered good enough we can use Ward-Prowse, Reed & Romeu and develop Smallbone and Jankewitz. That gives a good mix of experience and youth. Edited 12 July, 2020 by Matthew Le God
SuperSAINT Posted 12 July, 2020 Posted 12 July, 2020 12 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I haven't really seen enough of Reed recently to know if he has improved to the level we need. But in the Fulham games I have seen on TV recently he has performed extremely well for one of the best teams in that league. Signing another player blocks pathways for Jankewitz and Smallbone. If Reed is considered good enough we can use Ward-Prowse, Reed & Romeu and develop Smallbone and Jankewitz. Very true. I suppose it depends if he tactically fits what Ralph wants. It could always be situation where we just offload him to bring the cash in.
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