What is wrong with America

[badgerx16]

And now there's a mass killing without the use of a gun - that other symbol of US culture, the automobile, is employed as at least 7  people at a bus stop outside a migrant centre in Texas are mown down.

Edited 7 May, 2023 by badgerx16

[whelk]

So the witch hunt continues against Trump. Interviews with women who don’t seem bothered about rape and doesn’t think it impacts him being President. 

[saint1977]

14 minutes ago, whelk said:

So the witch hunt continues against Trump. Interviews with women who don’t seem bothered about rape and doesn’t think it impacts him being President. 

Unbelievable isn’t it? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65540838

Sheri Strain though - great name

[whelk]

On 10/05/2023 at 18:32, saint1977 said:

Unbelievable isn’t it? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65540838

Sheri Strain though - great name

Yeah the Christian right have no problems with infidelity and sexual assault these days

Edited 13 May, 2023 by whelk

[badgerx16]

Woman being assaulted in her home asks her 11 year old son to call the Police. Police turn up and shoot the son.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65692016

[badgerx16]

A man on death row in Oklahoma was denied a stay of execution by the State Parole Board, despite the State Attorney General supporting his petition and stating the original conviction was unsound. Luckily the Supreme Court imposed the stay;

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/how-richard-glossips-case-is-challenging-republicans-in-oklahoma-to-rethink-the-death-penalty

[Saint in Paradise]

 

 

[badgerx16]

MLG will appreciate this.

A school district in Utah has banned the Bible due to it's vulgar and violent content

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65794363

[buctootim]

On 03/06/2023 at 09:04, badgerx16 said:

 

the Bible's vulgar and violent content

Sounds more interesting than I thought. 

[badgerx16]

5 minutes ago, buctootim said:

Sounds more interesting than I thought. 

The Bible is 100% accurate....,.

.......when thrown at a short range.

[skintsaint]

Happy Graduation 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65829241

 

[Saint86]

On 07/06/2023 at 11:33, skintsaint said:

Happy Graduation 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65829241

 

And they'll be trotting out the same old line - "guns don't kill people, people do". Mental country.

[Tamesaint]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/12/iowa-passes-six-week-abortion-ban?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

What a cluster fuck of a country.

 Biden, despite his Catholicism, has an opportunity here to gain support in Republican areas by opposing these abortion bans. 

[Weston Super Saint]

16 minutes ago, Tamesaint said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/12/iowa-passes-six-week-abortion-ban?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

What a cluster fuck of a country.

 Biden, despite his Catholicism, has an opportunity here to gain support in Republican areas by opposing these abortion bans. 

No idea about Biden's religious beliefs, but if, as you say, he is Catholic, why on earth would he oppose these abortion bans?

The Catholic church opposes ALL forms of abortion from the moment of conception (with very few morally legitimate exceptions).

Surely he should be celebrating this abortion ban victory and campaigning for the number of weeks to be reduced even further - unless he's not really a Catholic?

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, Tamesaint said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/12/iowa-passes-six-week-abortion-ban?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

What a cluster fuck of a country.

 Biden, despite his Catholicism, has an opportunity here to gain support in Republican areas by opposing these abortion bans. 

It is Republican controlled legislatures that are passing these laws. They obviously feel they have enough support from their electorates to do so. Also, the Republican/conservative controlled Supreme Court passed a judgement setting aside Roe v Wade and placing State Government above Federal in this matter,so there is little Biden can do.

[Tamesaint]

2 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

It is Republican controlled legislatures that are passing these laws. They obviously feel they have enough support from their electorates to do so. Also, the Republican/conservative controlled Supreme Court passed a judgement setting aside Roe v Wade and placing State Government above Federal in this matter,so there is little Biden can do.

According to that article c. 61% of Iowans and Americans in general are in favour of access to abortions. As you say it is Republican administrations that are restricting abortion rights but their advocation  of a  policy that is unpopular to the majority is surely a weak spot for them. It could well have been a reason for the Republican's disappointing 2022 mid term results. 

Weston highlights Biden's dilemma. It is possible that Biden's Catholicism may make him reluctant to make abortion a major issue in 2024 but I daresay that he would be prepared to compromise his religious beliefs in return for 4 more years in office. 

[Weston Super Saint]

51 minutes ago, Tamesaint said:

According to that article c. 61% of Iowans and Americans in general are in favour of access to abortions. As you say it is Republican administrations that are restricting abortion rights but their advocation  of a  policy that is unpopular to the majority is surely a weak spot for them. It could well have been a reason for the Republican's disappointing 2022 mid term results. 

Weston highlights Biden's dilemma. It is possible that Biden's Catholicism may make him reluctant to make abortion a major issue in 2024 but I daresay that he would be prepared to compromise his religious beliefs in return for 4 more years in office. 

He needs to be very careful if he's prepared to do that!  He may be meeting his maker before the end of another 4 years in office and that dismissal may not go down too well with the big fella in the clouds.

[buctootim]

On 12/07/2023 at 11:14, Tamesaint said:

Weston highlights Biden's dilemma. It is possible that Biden's Catholicism may make him reluctant to make abortion a major issue in 2024 but I daresay that he would be prepared to compromise his religious beliefs in return for 4 more years in office. 

Depends whether he sees religion as about personal belief and values or about crusading. Some issues are and should be primarily personal choice 

in any event its very very hard to ban abortion absolutely.  Cases of rape and incest or the pregnancy endangering the mothers life have relatively little opposition to terminations. Once exceptions are made then where the line is drawn is just a value judgement

Edited 13 July, 2023 by buctootim

[Dark Munster]

Biden has made it clear that abortion should be legal, and that he doesn't impose his faith's beliefs on others. He is in lock step with Democrats on this (just as Republicans are unanimously against abortion - not that they really give a shit about it, it is just red meat for their base and the evangelical vote). 

Quote

 

Joe Biden put reproductive rights squarely in the middle of his 2024 re-election campaign as the US president hosted a rally based around defending abortion rights, notched three high-profile endorsements from groups dedicated to the issue, and announced an executive order aimed at boosting access to contraception.

The moves came in stark contrast to the Republican field of candidates, many of whom were attending the Faith & Freedom Coalition annual conference in Washington DC.

Abortion has become a tough issue for Republicans because most Americans support the right to an abortion after the conservative-dominated US supreme court last year axed the federal right to terminate a pregnancy.

 

 

[buctootim]

 

Any country where two of their top 4 favoutite people are Royalists from your former colonial power has some serious issues.  

[Tamesaint]

47 minutes ago, buctootim said:

 

Any country where two of their top 4 favoutite people are Royalists from your former colonial power has some serious issues.  

.... And 5% of the population have a favourable opinion of Putin!!!

[whelk]

3% nor heard of Trump?

ok might have no opinion

Edited 10 August, 2023 by whelk
Misread

[whelk]

2 hours ago, buctootim said:

 

Any country where two of their top 4 favoutite people are Royalists from your former colonial power has some serious issues.  

Do you think many Americans care about colonial history over 250 years ago?

 

[buctootim]

13 minutes ago, whelk said:

Do you think many Americans care about colonial history over 250 years ago?

 

What is your explanation for why they rank them 1st and 4th ahead of anybody else in the world those questioned could have chosen?

[Lighthouse]

5 minutes ago, buctootim said:

What is your explanation for why they rank them 1st and 4th ahead of anybody else in the world those questioned could have chosen?

I'd guess that they're viewed as a kind of spiritual or societal figurehead, in much the same way as the Pope or Dali Lama. Stephen Fry put it best when he said they're like a real life Uncle Sam, which I'd imagine would be well received over there. Republicans probably see them as a symbol of patriotism, liberals as more of a non-political ambassador.

Plus William was quite dashing when he was younger and had hair, so when you factor in the accent, most American women probably had a massive wide-on.

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

3% nor heard of Trump?

ok might have no opinion

That answer depends on who’s asking the question. If it’s a redneck with a MAGA cap and a baseball bat then a diplomatic response is most advisable.

[Weston Super Saint]

5 hours ago, buctootim said:

What is your explanation for why they rank them 1st and 4th ahead of anybody else in the world those questioned could have chosen?

Probably because those questioned couldn't have chosen "anybody else in the world".

The question says they will name some people in the news and their opinion on those people is sought....

[Fan The Flames]

5 hours ago, buctootim said:

What is your explanation for why they rank them 1st and 4th ahead of anybody else in the world those questioned could have chosen?

I think its because the royal family are more neutral fugures to Americans. The rest are politcal figures. The least political people on there are the top 4.

[buctootim]

4 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Probably because those questioned couldn't have chosen "anybody else in the world".

The question says they will name some people in the news and their opinion on those people is sought....

Ah fair enough . But still I find slightly odd 

[buctootim]

3 hours ago, Fan The Flames said:

I think its because the royal family are more neutral fugures to Americans. The rest are politcal figures. The least political people on there are the top 4.

It probably is partly that. Biden is past it and Trump is Trump. I’d probably prefer somebody else too 

[Gloucester Saint]

Trump fanatic in Texas arrested for making threats and holding typical views of his idiots https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66529579

A couple of weeks back, a far more dangerous Trump loony was eliminated in Utah https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/09/politics/fbi-utah-man-joe-biden/index.html

I suspect the FBI are going to be very busy over the next 18 months and even more so after Trump loses and he and his cult won’t accept it. This is where highly partisan TV networks, the dark web and unlimited guns leads you to.

[whelk]

4 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Trump fanatic in Texas arrested for making threats and holding typical views of his idiots https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66529579

A couple of weeks back, a far more dangerous Trump loony was eliminated in Utah https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/09/politics/fbi-utah-man-joe-biden/index.html

I suspect the FBI are going to be very busy over the next 18 months and even more so after Trump loses and he and his cult won’t accept it. This is where highly partisan TV networks, the dark web and unlimited guns leads you to.

But at least when they get shot doing Gods work in eliminating Democrats they go to heaven

[Lighthouse]

Good guy with a gun prevents etc.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-67225016

[whelk]

On 26/10/2023 at 09:29, Lighthouse said:

Good guy with a gun prevents etc.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-67225016

At the press briefing the Maine Public Safety guy refers to them as the ‘the greatest country in the world’. Comical when you look at their politics, poverty and gun crime.

Edited 27 October, 2023 by whelk

[badgerx16]

Obviously in Iowa the staff don't have enough guns in school, otherwise they would would have prevented this;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-67884835

 

This is apparently the second school shooting this year.

 

 

Edited 6 February, 2024 by badgerx16

[badgerx16]

Here's a first;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68223118

"A jury has found a Michigan mother guilty of involuntary manslaughter for failing to stop her son from carrying out a deadly school shooting.

Jennifer Crumbley, 45, is the first US parent convicted of manslaughter over a mass shooting carried out by their child.

Prosecutors accused her of being negligent in allowing her son to have a gun, and ignoring warnings signs.

Her husband, James, is facing a separate trial on the same charges."

 

[Fan The Flames]

7 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Here's a first;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68223118

"A jury has found a Michigan mother guilty of involuntary manslaughter for failing to stop her son from carrying out a deadly school shooting.

Jennifer Crumbley, 45, is the first US parent convicted of manslaughter over a mass shooting carried out by their child.

Prosecutors accused her of being negligent in allowing her son to have a gun, and ignoring warnings signs.

Her husband, James, is facing a separate trial on the same charges."

It sounds crazy, but when you hear the detail then the conviction is probably correct.

[Baird of the land]

Biden's going all Sixth Sense 'I see dead peope'

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/08/joe-biden-kohl-mitterrand-gaffe-age-questions

[Weston Super Saint]

3 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

Biden's going all Sixth Sense 'I see dead peope'

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/08/joe-biden-kohl-mitterrand-gaffe-age-questions

Won't be long before he's one of them.

[Fan The Flames]

He really should retire.

[hypochondriac]

This is simply extraordinary. Surely, surely they have to run someone else? If they don't and trump wins, you'd have to say the Democrats will take a large portion of the blame for failing to act. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

I can’t see the problem. He’s still got the ear of other world leaders & is on top of his game dealing with major world issues. He managed to get humanitarian aid into Gaza through talking to the Mexican president. Remarkable statesmanship. 
 

 

[buctootim]

Biden is a good man who is past it. Trump is an arsehole who never had it, but if he did, he'd be past it now. 

At this point I don't see any value in the posts trading my guy is better than your guy.    

 

[skintsaint]

3 minutes ago, buctootim said:

Biden is a good man who is past it. Trump is an arsehole who never had it, but if he did, he'd be past it now. 

At this point I don't see any value in the posts trading my guy is better than your guy.    

 

4 more years of either of them. Great.

[buctootim]

6 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

4 more years of either of them. Great.

True. I think somehow that wont happen. 

[badgerx16]

2 hours ago, skintsaint said:

4 more years of either of them. Great.

Let's wait and see who they pick as VP, because it is likely they'll inherit before the term is up.

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Let's wait and see who they pick as VP, because it is likely they'll inherit before the term is up.

We thought that about Kamala Harris.

[OldNick]

4 hours ago, buctootim said:

Biden is a good man who is past it. Trump is an arsehole who never had it, but if he did, he'd be past it now. 

At this point I don't see any value in the posts trading my guy is better than your guy.    

 

Not in my opinion. He absolutely detests the UK and rails against us.

As for the stuff that is seen online with him is it a bit iffy

 

[LuckyNumber7]

6 hours ago, OldNick said:

Not in my opinion. He absolutely detests the UK and rails against us.

As for the stuff that is seen online with him is it a bit iffy

 

Indeed, Biden's a creep. Both of them should step aside and let younger candidates have a go.

[Gloucester Saint]

13 minutes ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

Indeed, Biden's a creep. Both of them should step aside and let younger candidates have a go.

Biden is very iffy, Trump is a whole new level of pervert and just as cuckoo. It’s like being asked as a Saints fan whether you want to sit and watch Pompey in the Fratton End (Biden) sitting next to Westwood all game stinking you out or in the North Stand next to the nutter who attacked the Sunderland full back (Trump) with all his pisshead mates from Leigh Park (Trump supporters). 

Edited 9 February, 2024 by Gloucester Saint