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Whitey Grandad

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46 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I don’t buy it.

He’s seems to struggle with the complicated nature of  handshakes. 
 

https://www.gbnews.uk/news/joe-biden-confusion-as-he-seemingly-forgets-he-shook-senators-hand-and-goes-in-for-another-handshake/351286

 

Good grief you people are so simple. "Seemingly forgets" are the operative words. If you actually watch the clip you might notice that when he holds his hand out again it is in a different orientation from when he makes the handshake. For the handshake his hand rotates to the left. When he holds it out again it rotates to the right. One is a closing gesture the other something quite different.

Only someone with an agenda could interpret it the way that you and GBNEWS do. GBNEWS is the Farage Fan Club. 'nuff said.

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Lord Duckhunter

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1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

And Trump can't drink from a bottle, or even string a coherent sentence.

Surely the main thing to conclude from this is the sorry state of US Politics, if these are the 2 leading candidates.

Yep, correct. Clinton, Trump & Biden have to be the worse 3 candidates ever produced, and at this rate it’ll be Trump V Biden 2. Neither are fit for office, 

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Lord Duckhunter

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51 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Good grief you people are so simple. "Seemingly forgets" are the operative words. If you actually watch the clip you might notice that when he holds his hand out again it is in a different orientation from when he makes the handshake. For the handshake his hand rotates to the left. When he holds it out again it rotates to the right. One is a closing gesture the other something quite different.

Only someone with an agenda could interpret it the way that you and GBNEWS do. GBNEWS is the Farage Fan Club. 'nuff said.

The blokes clearly not up to it. Struggles to ride a bike & put his coat on. If it was The Donald you wouldn’t be making excuses. The title of the thread is “what is wrong with America”. The state of its president  is clearly one thing wrong with it. 

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Whitey Grandad

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1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

The blokes clearly not up to it. Struggles to ride a bike & put his coat on. If it was The Donald you wouldn’t be making excuses. The title of the thread is “what is wrong with America”. The state of its president  is clearly one thing wrong with it. 

He’s 79 FFS, not far off 80.

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badgerx16

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62578359

 

"The long-time financial chief of Donald Trump's company has pleaded guilty to fraud and tax evasion charges at a New York court.

Allen Weisselberg, who served as The Trump Organization's chief financial officer, had been charged with concealing more than $1.7m (£1.4m) in off-the-books income."

 

Is this the first block knocked out of the Jenga tower that is Trump's business empire ? ( Or just the 'woke' BBC misrepresenting things ? )

 

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Singapore Saint

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Heart of gold.....

 

The problem with you Trump haters is you take him literally but not seriously. We Trump supporters take him seriously but not literally. You thus miss the entire point.

"I think one thing that should be distinguished here is that the media is always taking Trump literally. It never takes him seriously, but it always takes him literally. ... I think a lot of voters who vote for Trump take Trump seriously but not literally, so when they hear things like the Muslim comment or the wall comment, their question is not, 'Are you going to build a wall like the Great Wall of China?' or, you know, 'How exactly are you going to enforce these tests?' What they hear is we're going to have a saner, more sensible immigration policy." Peter Thiel

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/11/09/peter-thiel-perfectly-summed-up-donald-trump-in-one-paragraph.html

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badgerx16

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12 minutes ago, Singapore Saint said:

The problem with you Trump haters is you take him literally but not seriously. We Trump supporters take him seriously but not literally. You thus miss the entire point.

"I think one thing that should be distinguished here is that the media is always taking Trump literally. It never takes him seriously, but it always takes him literally. ... I think a lot of voters who vote for Trump take Trump seriously but not literally, so when they hear things like the Muslim comment or the wall comment, their question is not, 'Are you going to build a wall like the Great Wall of China?' or, you know, 'How exactly are you going to enforce these tests?' What they hear is we're going to have a saner, more sensible immigration policy." Peter Thiel

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/11/09/peter-thiel-perfectly-summed-up-donald-trump-in-one-paragraph.html

Not at all. Trump is a condensation of everything wrong with capitalism, evrything wrong with the imoact of money on the democratic process, the personification of right wing American gung-ho bullshit. He is a spoilt brat who can't accept that he might be wrong, cannot accept losing, and basically he is, as was stated above, a vile human being.

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11 minutes ago, Singapore Saint said:

The problem with you Trump haters is you take him literally but not seriously. We Trump supporters take him seriously but not literally. You thus miss the entire point.

"I think one thing that should be distinguished here is that the media is always taking Trump literally. It never takes him seriously, but it always takes him literally. ... I think a lot of voters who vote for Trump take Trump seriously but not literally, so when they hear things like the Muslim comment or the wall comment, their question is not, 'Are you going to build a wall like the Great Wall of China?' or, you know, 'How exactly are you going to enforce these tests?' What they hear is we're going to have a saner, more sensible immigration policy." Peter Thiel

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/11/09/peter-thiel-perfectly-summed-up-donald-trump-in-one-paragraph.html

At least 895 charged neo Nazi thugs (see link below) and counting in the next few months took him both seriously and literally on January 6 about converging on DC and took his baseless lies whole about election fraud (even McConnell told him to pack it in early on and Paul Ryan had long since worked out Trump was a loon). His whole pathway to nomination was based on racist lies about Obama’s birth certificate.

There is nothing sane nor sensible about anyone mobilising a facist coup. Still, you seem proud to be part of it all. I’m proud to be the grandson of Montecasino and El Alamein veterans who fought against fascism.

https://www.insider.com/all-the-us-capitol-pro-trump-riot-arrests-charges-names-2021-1

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Whitey Grandad

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51 minutes ago, Singapore Saint said:

The problem with you Trump haters is you take him literally but not seriously. We Trump supporters take him seriously but not literally. You thus miss the entire point.

"I think one thing that should be distinguished here is that the media is always taking Trump literally. It never takes him seriously, but it always takes him literally. ... I think a lot of voters who vote for Trump take Trump seriously but not literally, so when they hear things like the Muslim comment or the wall comment, their question is not, 'Are you going to build a wall like the Great Wall of China?' or, you know, 'How exactly are you going to enforce these tests?' What they hear is we're going to have a saner, more sensible immigration policy." Peter Thiel

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/11/09/peter-thiel-perfectly-summed-up-donald-trump-in-one-paragraph.html

He’s a nasty piece of work. A wrong ‘un. You can spot them a mile off.

Besides, why does he feel that he has to pose like Mussolini all the time?

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1 hour ago, Singapore Saint said:

The problem with you Trump haters is you take him literally but not seriously. We Trump supporters take him seriously but not literally. You thus miss the entire point.

"I think one thing that should be distinguished here is that the media is always taking Trump literally. It never takes him seriously, but it always takes him literally. ... I think a lot of voters who vote for Trump take Trump seriously but not literally, so when they hear things like the Muslim comment or the wall comment, their question is not, 'Are you going to build a wall like the Great Wall of China?' or, you know, 'How exactly are you going to enforce these tests?' What they hear is we're going to have a saner, more sensible immigration policy." Peter Thiel

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/11/09/peter-thiel-perfectly-summed-up-donald-trump-in-one-paragraph.html

Stop embarrassing yourself you thick twat

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1 hour ago, saint1977 said:

At least 895 charged neo Nazi thugs (see link below) and counting in the next few months took him both seriously and literally on January 6 about converging on DC and took his baseless lies whole about election fraud (even McConnell told him to pack it in early on and Paul Ryan had long since worked out Trump was a loon). His whole pathway to nomination was based on racist lies about Obama’s birth certificate.

There is nothing sane nor sensible about anyone mobilising a facist coup. Still, you seem proud to be part of it all. I’m proud to be the grandson of Montecasino and El Alamein veterans who fought against fascism.

https://www.insider.com/all-the-us-capitol-pro-trump-riot-arrests-charges-names-2021-1

The best you can say about any Trump supporter is they are gullible thick as shits sorts. Others have a far more evil streak, Not many people I would like to see die but he is definitely one of them

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2 hours ago, Singapore Saint said:

The problem with you Trump haters is you take him literally but not seriously. We Trump supporters take him seriously but not literally. You thus miss the entire point.

"I think one thing that should be distinguished here is that the media is always taking Trump literally. It never takes him seriously, but it always takes him literally. ... I think a lot of voters who vote for Trump take Trump seriously but not literally, so when they hear things like the Muslim comment or the wall comment, their question is not, 'Are you going to build a wall like the Great Wall of China?' or, you know, 'How exactly are you going to enforce these tests?' What they hear is we're going to have a saner, more sensible immigration policy." Peter Thiel

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/11/09/peter-thiel-perfectly-summed-up-donald-trump-in-one-paragraph.html

Jesus wept.

The "seriously but not literally" routine was old news back in 2017.

You're still parroting that "observation" 5 years, an entire new election and riots in the Capitol later?

 

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saint1977

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8 hours ago, skintsaint said:

Nothing like going on the top on describing them! 

I'd prefer the term 'stupid c*nts'

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/27/politics/timothy-hale-cusanelli-verdict/index.html

https://www.heraldonline.com/news/local/crime/article263731588.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/trumps-pick-pennsylvania-governor-says-sees-parallels-hitlers-power-gr-rcna33167

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/feds-say-jan-6-rioter-seen-giving-nazi-salute-praised-hitler-sent-raci-rcna17645

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60149957

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/06/24/hatchet-speed-jan6-arrest/

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2021/01/10254568/nazi-shirts-swastika-flags-capitol-riot-trump-supporters

This is a tiny sample of what was reported then and since as well. Not all of the people there were Nazis, some are thick as you say, some brainwashed and mentally incapable, but others and a significant amount were there as fascists to force a coup. This is what you get with Trump. Watch some of the footage back from the ITV documentary and lots of it is clearly visible.

The world made the mistake of underestimating facism in the 1930s so our grandparents generation had to fight it and risk death to clear up the mess. Western media needs to call the QAnon and other movements out for what they are. If you think the impact of the Ukrainian war is bad, the US imploding in 2024 and losing the worlds largest democracy would be catastrophic. 

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Turkish

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2 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

How do you know? We’re you in there with them?

I don’t remember his daughter coming out publicly about it, do you? Or are we going down the route that unless you saw it everyone might have done it? Dangerous ground gramps

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Whitey Grandad

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3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I don’t remember his daughter coming out publicly about it, do you? Or are we going down the route that unless you saw it everyone might have done it? Dangerous ground gramps

We don’t know either way but absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

The big question is why this daughter should make such claims.

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5 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

We don’t know either way but absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

The big question is why this daughter should make such claims.

You seem to be imply that because no one has seen trump molest his daughter that doesn’t mean he hasn’t done it. So where do you stop? Is everyone assumed a child molester because there is no evidence they’re not?

as for why she’s said it, who knows.

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Whitey Grandad

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8 minutes ago, Turkish said:

You seem to be imply that because no one has seen trump molest his daughter that doesn’t mean he hasn’t done it. So where do you stop? Is everyone assumed a child molester because there is no evidence they’re not?

as for why she’s said it, who knows.

Trump has molested other women.

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33 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It’s pretty weird that the defence for this thus far has been Well trump has molested women 🤣🤣🤣

‘The defence’ being a post - funny how it isn’t being discussed wider. Do you maybe have a thought why?

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10 minutes ago, cloggy saint said:

 

Keep sipping that delicious kool-aid.

Just to be clear here this is a father taking showers with and molesting their daughter are Very serious allegations. do you think this is just right wing propaganda? Surely Biden will sue for billions if this is completely false. What could be more repulsive than being falsely accused of abusing your own child. By the way I really hope they are false/manufactured/embellished etc. nothing more sickening that this sort of stuff 

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10 hours ago, Turkish said:

Just to be clear here this is a father taking showers with and molesting their daughter are Very serious allegations. do you think this is just right wing propaganda? Surely Biden will sue for billions if this is completely false. What could be more repulsive than being falsely accused of abusing your own child. By the way I really hope they are false/manufactured/embellished etc. nothing more sickening that this sort of stuff 

Don't you think that if this was a genuine story it would be all over every (serious) news outlet? 

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Don't you think that if this was a genuine story it would be all over every (serious) news outlet? 

Well we will see won’t we, if it’s completely fabricated with no substance to it surely Biden will sue the arses off them, few things worse than being falsely accused of molesting your own child 

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I suspect that this is as credible as the Hitler Diaries.

I base this on nothing, other than the website that originally broke the "story", leaked by an "anonymous whistleblower", is well known for carrying extreme anti-vaxx articles, claims that 9/11 was an inside job, and that Hilary Clinton is a sex trafficker. The site is generally classified as 'Coniracy Pseudoscience'.

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Everything the press has ever said bad about trump is true. Why would they like?

Everything the press has ever said about Biden is fabricated. 

Am I close? 

Funny as fook lefties snowflake echo chamber. 

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8 minutes ago, Gurj said:

Everything the press has ever said bad about trump is true. Why would they like?

Everything the press has ever said about Biden is fabricated. 

Am I close? 

Funny as fook lefties snowflake echo chamber. 

Most of what is used to ridicule Trump comes from his own mouth.

Funny as fuck right wing nutjobs swallowing wholesale conspiracy bollox and lacking the ability to critically analyse or form their own opinion.

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1 minute ago, badgerx16 said:

Most of what is used to ridicule Trump comes from his own mouth.

Funny as fuck right wing nutjobs swallowing wholesale conspiracy bollox and lacking the ability to critically analyse.

Where as anyone who hates trump is obviously superior when it come to critical analysis, am I right again?

What an unpleasant outlook you have toward others. 

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