Ohio Saint Posted 4 June, 2015 Share Posted 4 June, 2015 http://www.snopes.com/business/names/worldseries.asp Good to know! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 June, 2015 Share Posted 4 June, 2015 To be fair to our gun-happy transatlantic cousin, we have had our own "shoot first, ask questions later" incidents here, for example, when Jean Charles de Menezes got gunned down at Stockwell tube station. However, that sparked a wave of public revulsion, rather than the usual US response to similar incidents which is invariably to call for more people to carry guns in the interests of self protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 June, 2015 Share Posted 4 June, 2015 To be fair to our gun-happy transatlantic cousin, we have had our own "shoot first, ask questions later" incidents here, for example, when Jean Charles de Menezes got gunned down at Stockwell tube station. However, that sparked a wave of public revulsion, rather than the usual US response to similar incidents which is invariably to call for more people to carry guns in the interests of self protection. Just looked it up: ten years ago. Blimey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 4 June, 2015 Share Posted 4 June, 2015 The vast majority of Blue Jays players are Canadian? The Blue Jays franchise is in the USA? Man, are you confused! I'm confused !!! you are the confused one ......when the Blue Jays won the world series 2 years running there was not a single Canadian in the 25 .........when the Blackhawks win the Stanley cup this year half the players will be Canadian. Tell me where I said anything different ..........go on just try ..........you won't ..........but continue on playing to the prejudice of the brits.....must make you feel all warm and fuzzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 4 June, 2015 Share Posted 4 June, 2015 I try not to directly insult people I don't know, but if you can't see the difference you are terminally thick. In one case the police fire FIRST at somebody who at worst has committed a moving vehicle violation, in the the other, a VISIBLY ARMED person who has already shot and killed a soldier, and clearly represents a significant threat to human life, dies in an exchange of gunfire. I can see the difference ............but (going over old ground) you don't run from the cops or make threatening gestures ............. My take on you is that you would like the cops unarmed..........then how would the muslim terrorist been stopped??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 4 June, 2015 Share Posted 4 June, 2015 Read the thread properly before posting - see #1641. rolleyes thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 4 June, 2015 Share Posted 4 June, 2015 Can try and be a bit subjective instead of just posting links that are just opinion..... Noticed you never had anything to say about the 31 bullets in the terrorist on Parliament Hill..........why??[/QUOTE] Still waiting on your thoughts on this ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 4 June, 2015 Share Posted 4 June, 2015 Hey guys I will be gone until June 14............to be continued!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 5 June, 2015 Share Posted 5 June, 2015 I'm confused !!! you are the confused one ......when the Blue Jays won the world series 2 years running there was not a single Canadian in the 25 .........when the Blackhawks win the Stanley cup this year half the players will be Canadian. Tell me where I said anything different ..........go on just try ..........you won't ..........but continue on playing to the prejudice of the brits.....must make you feel all warm and fuzzy Go back and read your post #1646: "What dismay are you talking about .............the fact that the franchise is in Canada means sweet FA to MLB fans........... just like the Stanley Cup the vast majority of players are Canadians but the franchise is in the USA." "The franchise is in Canada" refers to the the Toronto Blue Jays. You are talking about the Blue Jays. Then you say, "just like the Stanley Cup the vast majority of players are Canadians." You are saying there that most of the players on the Blue Jays, just like those who play in the Stanley Cup, are Canadians. Well, that's incorrect. Then you say that the franchise is in the USA. The franchise you were referring to was the Blue Jays, which is not in the USA. As I said before, you are confused. You just can't write coherently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 June, 2015 Share Posted 5 June, 2015 I'm confused !!! you are the confused one ......when the Blue Jays won the world series 2 years running there was not a single Canadian in the 25 .........when the Blackhawks win the Stanley cup this year half the players will be Canadian. Tell me where I said anything different ..........go on just try ..........you won't ..........but continue on playing to the prejudice of the brits.....must make you feel all warm and fuzzy Rational debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 5 June, 2015 Share Posted 5 June, 2015 (edited) I can see the difference ............but (going over old ground) you don't run from the cops or make threatening gestures ............. My take on you is that you would like the cops unarmed..........then how would the muslim terrorist been stopped??? Why do ALL of them have to be armed ? What is wrong with the British model ? ( Mind you, I think too many of them are armed ). In regard of the shooting at the Canadian Parliament, there could still have been overtly armed officers due to the sensitivity of the site, the same as we have at Westminster. Edited 5 June, 2015 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 5 June, 2015 Share Posted 5 June, 2015 rolleyes thing Your doctor can treat you for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 June, 2015 Share Posted 5 June, 2015 I can see the difference ............but (going over old ground) you don't run from the cops or make threatening gestures ............. We've definitely been over the old ground where you are absolutely fine with the idea that anyone on American soil who makes a "threatening gesture" deserves to be shot dead. Anyone, everyone. Expect what happens to you. The land of the free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 5 June, 2015 Share Posted 5 June, 2015 As I said before, you are confused. You just can't write, think, speak, debate, reason or argue coherently. You missed a bit - fixed it for you. He really is one of the thickest posters we've ever had here. I only come back for the LOL's. LOL's.....! God it must be catching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 6 June, 2015 Share Posted 6 June, 2015 It is my sad duty to inform you all that the reason Sarnia Saint did not issue his habitual rebuttal of any implied criticism of violence levels in the United States last night is that our Canadian friend passed away peacefully in his sleep a few hours ago - he was shot 15 times in the head while avoiding arrest on a charge of excessive liberalism. I think we all know that he wouldn't have wanted to go any other way. Donations can be made to the new ''Sarnia Foundation'' - a charitable trust that has been established in his name with the aim of freely distributing firearms to underprivileged children everywhere. RIP mate - we will never see your like again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 6 June, 2015 Share Posted 6 June, 2015 I'll just leave this here. I wish it was fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 8 June, 2015 Share Posted 8 June, 2015 They will need the flowers for the funeral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 8 June, 2015 Share Posted 8 June, 2015 (edited) and i'll just leave this here: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/07/youtube-texas-police-officer-pool-party-arrests A Texas police officer has been suspended after video posted online showed him breaking up a pool party in an extremely aggressive manner, including drawing his gun. On Friday, units from the McKinney police department were called to the party, at Craig Ranch North Community Pool in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, over reports of a fight. Police said the incident involved “multiple juveniles at the location, who do not live in the area or have permission to be there, refusing to leave”. On Sunday, McKinney police chief Greg Conley spoke to reporters about what followed. “Several concerns about the conduct of one of the officers at the scene have been raised,” local ABC affiliate WFAA8 reported him as saying. “The McKinney police department is committed to treating all persons fairly under the law. We are committed to preserving the peace and safety of our community for all our citizens.” Conley did not name the officer in question, who was not named when his suspension was announced. According to WFAA8, Conley added: “A 14-year-old female was temporarily detained by one of the officers. She was ultimately released to her parents.” Video posted to YouTube on Saturday shows one officer sprinting past the camera, falling and losing his flashlight, then running again. Teenagers are seen returning the flashlight to another officer, who responds politely, before the first officer returns and shouts: “On the ground! I told you to stay! Get your asses on the ground. I told you to stay!” The officer is then seen forcing a number of teenagers to lie on a grass verge and a sidewalk and telling others to “get your ass out of here”. Some teenagers are handcuffed. Advertisement One teenager can be heard saying: “Sir, we just came from a birthday party, please.” Another says: “Officer, I can’t find my bag.” The officer replies: “I don’t care, sit down.” The officer is then shown talking to teenagers on the ground. “Don’t make me run round here with 30 kinds of ****ing gear on in the sun,” he says, “because you want to screw around out here.” He then forces a group of bystanders to leave. One, a girl, does not comply and the officer wrestles her to the ground. When other teenagers surround him to remonstrate, he draws his gun. Two other officers move to restrain him, and the officer re-holsters the weapon. He then slams the girl back to the ground, shouting: “On your face!” As the officer appears to sit on the girl to keep her subdued, hectoring her all the while, a voice, possibly that of the person filming the incident, says the officer pulled a gun on the girl. “No I didn’t,” he says, pointing at the camera. “Now get your butts outta here.” The officer is later shown in close-up, lecturing two boys who are sitting on the ground. “You just did what everybody else did,” he says, “and what everybody else did was illegal. You did it and you got caught. Now you’re sitting here paying for it. “I asked y’all to sit,” he adds, “you didn’t and you became a part of the mob. You could’ve been the guys that were doing right and you weren’t, so now you’re sitting here in trouble.” The officer in question is white; most of the teenagers on the video are African American. A number of white men in civilian clothes are also shown. The poster of the YouTube video, named on the site as Brandon Brooks, wrote: “A fight between a mom and a girl broke out and when the cops showed up everyone ran, including the people who didn’t do anything. So the cops just started putting everyone on the ground and in handcuffs for no reason. This kind of force is uncalled for especially on children and innocent bystanders.” As press interest in the video increased the mayor of McKinney, Brian Loughmiller, issued a statement. He said: “Having seen the YouTube video, I am disturbed and concerned by the incident and actions depicted in the video. “Our expectation as a city council is that our police department and other departments will act professionally and with appropriate restraint relative to the situation they are faced with.” Edited 8 June, 2015 by lloydie posting the article so its easier for people to access Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 8 June, 2015 Share Posted 8 June, 2015 (edited) Kid Goat just read the title of this thread over my shoulder. I asked her what she thought was wrong with America. "There are too many guns," was her reply. "Why is that a bad thing?" I asked. Her answer? "Because then there are lots of murders." She is 11. Edited 8 June, 2015 by Goatboy Got own daughters age wrong ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 8 June, 2015 Share Posted 8 June, 2015 That McKinney video is absolutely horrific - even taking the racial element out of it you still have a cop swearing and screaming at a bunch of kids, pulling his gun on them and sitting on a girl who must have weighed less than half what he does. Thankfully he's been placed on administrative leave already, the other cops in the video seemed to know what they were doing and didn't react like he did. Can you imagine the uproar if that had happened in the UK? Shocking stuff, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 8 June, 2015 Share Posted 8 June, 2015 That McKinney video is absolutely horrific - even taking the racial element out of it... I think you have to keep the racial element firmly in it. I get a clear sense that the recent upsurge in viciously racist violence from US cops is connected with a deeply unpleasant strain of thought in American politics since 2008. As an outsider regularly visiting the US – a country I’ve lived in and enjoyed spending time in over the last 30+ years – it’s noticeable that a big part of the present, hysteria-pitch right-wing political rage has its roots in the fact that there’s a black man in the Oval Office. From the ludicrous ‘birther’ conspiracy theorists alleging that Obama is really Nigerian, or, even worse, Muslim, to the ever more vociferous attacks on Obama’s supposed ‘socialism’ and impeachable ‘treachery’ from the Republican right and media outlets like Fox News, the great unstated, unsayable truth is: the American right, with some notable exceptions, absolutely loathes Obama’s presence in a place he has no ethnic ‘right’ to be in. The subterranean logic is that for a black man to be in the White House he must have got there by cheating, or been planted there by sinister forces. I’ve never known such seething anger in political discourse in the US. (It’s been the meat and drink for the satire of Jon Stewart and the Daily Show for years now). And this rage seems to have infected the now heavily paramilitarised police departments of America’s major cities. (White police officers in the US are not generally known for their liberal-left views.) In different times, the scandal and social backlash of a racist police shooting or assault would change behaviour. It would prevent other outrages. These days, however, it is a constant stream – one shooting and vicious beating after another. Even though these repeat offenders must know for certain that their abuses will be being recorded on smartphones and sent viral, it acts as no deterrent whatsoever. Quite the opposite: it’s as if that certain knowledge actually encourages ever-greater levels of police violence. The brakes are off. Just as Obama has become fair game for the most outrageous abuses, so too are black men, women and children fair game to some white justice. These incidents are modern-day lynchings, on a large scale, rolling incessantly from one city to another. And so it will be, until it subsides on the day that Obama leaves the White House, white power is safely restored, and the American right and the police can withdraw back into the sullen silence about race that has long been a part of American political culture. American cities these days are sad places indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 10 June, 2015 Share Posted 10 June, 2015 The cop in that video has resigned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 11 June, 2015 Share Posted 11 June, 2015 Adding a little perspective to the 'debate' - it does happen in this country as well, but on very rare occasions, this from 2005 .... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33080953 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 12 June, 2015 Share Posted 12 June, 2015 Yup http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33115246 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 12 June, 2015 Share Posted 12 June, 2015 Yup http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33115246 Just seen this on the news, absolutely tragic. I honestly think that the parents should be prosecuted. How many more kids will pay the ultimate price because of their parents neglect and gross stupidity. Sent from my Hudl 2 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 12 June, 2015 Share Posted 12 June, 2015 Just seen this on the news, absolutely tragic. I honestly think that the parents should be prosecuted. How many more kids will pay the ultimate price because of their parents neglect and gross stupidity. Sent from my Hudl 2 using Tapatalk Sarnia will justify it shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 13 June, 2015 Share Posted 13 June, 2015 Although this is in a Walmart store I wonder how long before it happens in the U.K. ? https://www.facebook.com/1573070736286689/videos/1602448823348880/ To me it doesn't look like that woman who leaped from the mobile scooter even really needs one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 13 June, 2015 Share Posted 13 June, 2015 It would appear that they have solved the problem of how to deal with drunk drivers though. How? You might ask. Obviously they bloody shoot them... ! http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/12/bounty-hunter-kills-country-singer-randy-howard-in-tennessee-gunfight Guns, America's answer to any form of misdemeanor. Sent from my Hudl 2 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 13 June, 2015 Share Posted 13 June, 2015 (edited) Although this is in a Walmart store I wonder how long before it happens in the U.K. ? https://www.facebook.com/1573070736286689/videos/1602448823348880/ To me it doesn't look like that woman who leaped from the mobile scooter even really needs one. This is an everyday occurrence at Walmart, what's yer point? Edited 13 June, 2015 by LVSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 June, 2015 Share Posted 13 June, 2015 This is an everyday occurrence at Walmart, what's yer point? Piggly Wigglys is jaw dropping too. Not the place to go if you dont like your food processed and fluorescent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 15 June, 2015 Share Posted 15 June, 2015 It is my sad duty to inform you all that the reason Sarnia Saint did not issue his habitual rebuttal of any implied criticism of violence levels in the United States last night is that our Canadian friend passed away peacefully in his sleep a few hours ago - he was shot 15 times in the head while avoiding arrest on a charge of excessive liberalism. I think we all know that he wouldn't have wanted to go any other way. Donations can be made to the new ''Sarnia Foundation'' - a charitable trust that has been established in his name with the aim of freely distributing firearms to underprivileged children everywhere. RIP mate - we will never see your like again. In your F**king dreams................I'm back from a wonderful vacation in the Great State of Maine..........but thanks for calling mw mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 15 June, 2015 Share Posted 15 June, 2015 Piggly Wigglys is jaw dropping too. Not the place to go if you dont like your food processed and fluorescent. Piggly Wigglys ....the Sainsburys of the Southern US........ kinda funny post for brits to enjoy ha ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 15 June, 2015 Share Posted 15 June, 2015 So the only thing wrong in the last week was the arrest of a 15 yo black chick in a bikini...........????? nothing else..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 15 June, 2015 Share Posted 15 June, 2015 So the only thing wrong in the last week was the arrest of a 15 yo black chick in a bikini...........????? nothing else..... Well, since you asked so nicely - http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/4-Shot-at-Waldorf-Astoria-Hotel-NYPD-307274991.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edprice1984 Posted 15 June, 2015 Share Posted 15 June, 2015 ...and a three year old shooting himself after getting hold of Mummy's gun. Tragic accident, but if you take away the gun it doesn't happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 15 June, 2015 Share Posted 15 June, 2015 So the only thing wrong in the last week was the arrest of a 15 yo black chick in a bikini...........????? nothing else..... Now I KNOW you're trolling. Thank God for that - I thought you were dim or mental! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 15 June, 2015 Share Posted 15 June, 2015 ...and a three year old shooting himself after getting hold of Mummy's gun. Tragic accident, but if you take away the gun it doesn't happen! http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/butler-county/hamilton/shooting-reported-on-gordon-smith-boulevard-in-hamilton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 15 June, 2015 Share Posted 15 June, 2015 In your F**king dreams................I'm back from a wonderful vacation in the Great State of Maine..........but thanks for calling mw mate Believe it or not I'm pleased to see that you're back because I was starting to worry that my little joke had horribly misfired and you that had indeed 'shuffled off this mortal coil' - or even worse defected to Papsworld. A fate worse than death surely ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 15 June, 2015 Share Posted 15 June, 2015 Well, since you asked so nicely - http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/4-Shot-at-Waldorf-Astoria-Hotel-NYPD-307274991.html AH SH*T I missed that one............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 15 June, 2015 Share Posted 15 June, 2015 Now I KNOW you're trolling. Thank God for that - I thought you were dim or mental! ......I don't know why you would think I'm dim or mental........as for the trolling ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 15 June, 2015 Share Posted 15 June, 2015 Believe it or not I'm pleased to see that you're back because I was starting to worry that my little joke had horribly misfired and you that had indeed 'shuffled off this mortal coil' - or even worse defected to Papsworld. A fate worse than death surely ... Yeah that would be a fate I wouldn't want .............BTW I always thought it was "mortal soil" but correct me if I'm wrong .......(there tonite I'm mr nice Canuck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 16 June, 2015 Share Posted 16 June, 2015 http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/butler-county/hamilton/shooting-reported-on-gordon-smith-boulevard-in-hamilton Thank God that wasn't Hamilton ON...........someone on this thread would be in hand wringing mode ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 16 June, 2015 Share Posted 16 June, 2015 ...and a three year old shooting himself after getting hold of Mummy's gun. Tragic accident, but if you take away the gun it doesn't happen! So tell me how you take away the gun??..............its a tragic accident that will live with that woman for the rest of her life..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 16 June, 2015 Share Posted 16 June, 2015 So tell me how you take away the gun??..............its a tragic accident that will live with that woman for the rest of her life..... It works like this. The responsible adult in the home says to himself/herself: I have infants and young children in my home; I'm not going to have a loaded gun lying about - especially a small handgun. It's dangerous and an accident might happen. Then the responsible adult disposes of the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 16 June, 2015 Share Posted 16 June, 2015 New slogan: Guns don't kill people; young people with guns kill other young people ... or themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 16 June, 2015 Share Posted 16 June, 2015 It works like this. The responsible adult in the home says to himself/herself: I have infants and young children in my home; I'm not going to have a loaded gun lying about - especially a small handgun. It's dangerous and an accident might happen. Then the responsible adult disposes of the gun. In my own opinion, she would be less likely to get shot in the back if she would keep the correct change for the pay station at the car park in her handbag rather than a loaded handgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 16 June, 2015 Share Posted 16 June, 2015 Yeah that would be a fate I wouldn't want .............BTW I always thought it was "mortal soil" but correct me if I'm wrong .......(there tonite I'm mr nice Canuck) "Mortal Coil" comes from Hamlet's "To be or not to be" soliloquy. Consider yourself corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 June, 2015 Share Posted 16 June, 2015 .....BTW I always thought it was "mortal soil" but correct me if I'm wrong ...... This mortal soil? You deserve to be shot for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 16 June, 2015 Share Posted 16 June, 2015 I always thought it was "mortal soil" but correct me if I'm wrong ....... Thats incontinence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 16 June, 2015 Share Posted 16 June, 2015 It works like this. The responsible adult in the home says to himself/herself: I have infants and young children in my home; I'm not going to have a loaded gun lying about - especially a small handgun. It's dangerous and an accident might happen. Then the responsible adult disposes of the gun. So tell me Mr Wonderfull how does the responsible adult (your words not mine) dispose of the gun HUH?????...........throw it in the trash bin LOL............. So no comment about what that woman is feeling EH!!!!..........typical of your replies ..........just trot out your liberal/ NDP agenda where the government controls everything ........ obviously you don't believe in individual freedoms ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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