Goatboy Posted 10 April, 2015 Posted 10 April, 2015 Explain please .........if you can only use words of one syllable that's OK I am, of course, assuming you are aware of Google.
SarniaSaint Posted 10 April, 2015 Posted 10 April, 2015 Sadly Sarnia these incidents happen all too frequently which is why many of us have issues with arming police and the gun laws in the USA. Happen more often or just a media storm?.....but I digress......about a week after 9/11 when the border was re-opened I went across and there at the customs booth was a National Guardsman with a M16 next to the customs guy....was I worried NO .........why should I be worried ....... These high profile cop shootings that you are seeing all involve someone doing something wrong ............would you run away from a cop if you were stopped for a traffic violation?? So what do you have to say about that??
SarniaSaint Posted 10 April, 2015 Posted 10 April, 2015 that is exactly the bit that Sarniesaint does'nt get. What is there to get?.............the only thing I am getting from this thread is that you all are envious of the USA ....
SarniaSaint Posted 10 April, 2015 Posted 10 April, 2015 (edited) TBF he doesn't get any if it. He's not right bright. What I do get is a mental denial from you guys that in the real world the UK is not a world power anymore......face facts youre just some other country in Europe Edited 10 April, 2015 by SarniaSaint
SarniaSaint Posted 10 April, 2015 Posted 10 April, 2015 I am, of course, assuming you are aware of Google. Whats Google?
pap Posted 10 April, 2015 Posted 10 April, 2015 Happen more often or just a media storm?.....but I digress......about a week after 9/11 when the border was re-opened I went across and there at the customs booth was a National Guardsman with a M16 next to the customs guy....was I worried NO .........why should I be worried ....... These high profile cop shootings that you are seeing all involve someone doing something wrong ............would you run away from a cop if you were stopped for a traffic violation?? So what do you have to say about that?? The militarisation of the police is something that should concern any citizen. Firstly, what does it say about the government's feelings toward its own people? Are US citizens really that dangerous that you need an armour-plated RV to deal with them, and if so, why? No-one should be shot to death for the crime of "running", especially when the suspect isn't presenting a threat to anyone. Many of these shootings are completely unjustified. I maintain that there is an underlying fear driving all of this. Citizens buy guns to protect themselves from each other. The cops need bigger guns to protect themselves from the citizenry, to the point where they are becoming a colour-swapped version of the actual military. One of the key attributes of civilised societies is an absolute unwillingness to deploy its armed forces on its own soil. Not only is it a safeguard against military coups and the consequent tyrannies, but it also says a lot about the relationship between a nation's leaders and its citizens. There is mutual trust, and a general expectation that neither the citizenry or the authorities are not going to go f**king mental anytime soon. The big ol' social contract. The US military and police becoming virtually indistinguishable says much about the state of the USA's social contract.
SarniaSaint Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 (edited) The militarisation of the police is something that should concern any citizen. Firstly, what does it say about the government's feelings toward its own people? Are US citizens really that dangerous that you need an armour-plated RV to deal with them, and if so, why? No-one should be shot to death for the crime of "running", especially when the suspect isn't presenting a threat to anyone. Many of these shootings are completely unjustified. I maintain that there is an underlying fear driving all of this. Citizens buy guns to protect themselves from each other. The cops need bigger guns to protect themselves from the citizenry, to the point where they are becoming a colour-swapped version of the actual military. One of the key attributes of civilised societies is an absolute unwillingness to deploy its armed forces on its own soil. Not only is it a safeguard against military coups and the consequent tyrannies, but it also says a lot about the relationship between a nation's leaders and its citizens. There is mutual trust, and a general expectation that neither the citizenry or the authorities are not going to go f**king mental anytime soon. The big ol' social contract. The US military and police becoming virtually indistinguishable says much about the state of the USA's social contract. Until you know the full facts its best to not have an opinion....hard to do for you I know and as for the militarization of the cops!! ...........you just saying what your audience wants to hear Oh yeah the middle bit just shows how you have no understanding of North America....you may visit but............ Edited 11 April, 2015 by SarniaSaint
pap Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 Until you know the full facts its best to not have an opinion....hard to do for you I know and as for the militarization of the cops!! ...........you just saying what your audience wants to hear Oh yeah the middle bit just shows how you have no understanding of North America....you may visit but............ No-one, not even you, knows the full facts. Going by your definition, no-one should have an opinion. Continually telling people that they know nothing isn't debating, Sarnia, especially given the paucity of detail in your own responses. At best, you're Ygritte of the Free Folk. At worst, you're a twát. If we're wrong, at least attempt to explain why we're wrong, y'know, with counter-arguments. "I'm right because I live in a neighbouring country to the North" or "you no nothing, Europeans" are not counter-arguments. Now I've ribbed you on a couple of occasions on this thread, but I reckon I've been fairer than most, especially recently - so I've got a piece of travel advice to add to your do's and don'ts. Stay out of Twát County, mush. The place isn't good for you.
hutch Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 Happen more often or just a media storm?.....but I digress......about a week after 9/11 when the border was re-opened I went across and there at the customs booth was a National Guardsman with a M16 next to the customs guy....was I worried NO .........why should I be worried ....... These high profile cop shootings that you are seeing all involve someone doing something wrong ............would you run away from a cop if you were stopped for a traffic violation?? So what do you have to say about that?? Wouldn't this be a good place to shut the thread? Surely he can't get any more stupid than that.
Goatboy Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 Wouldn't this be a good place to shut the thread? Surely he can't get any more stupid than that. Give it time hutch. Have faith.
SarniaSaint Posted 12 April, 2015 Posted 12 April, 2015 No-one, not even you, knows the full facts. Going by your definition, no-one should have an opinion. Continually telling people that they know nothing isn't debating, Sarnia, especially given the paucity of detail in your own responses. At best, you're Ygritte of the Free Folk. At worst, you're a twát. If we're wrong, at least attempt to explain why we're wrong, y'know, with counter-arguments. "I'm right because I live in a neighbouring country to the North" or "you no nothing, Europeans" are not counter-arguments. Now I've ribbed you on a couple of occasions on this thread, but I reckon I've been fairer than most, especially recently - so I've got a piece of travel advice to add to your do's and don'ts. Stay out of Twát County, mush. The place isn't good for you. I have no intention of ever visiting the UK again HTH (I assumed you meant country as you wouldn't have a clue which county) ........Oh and I live to the East (guess geography aint your strong point) .........why in your opinion aint the place good for me??? go on just tell me.....not your opinion..........present some facts not vids from the internet.
SarniaSaint Posted 12 April, 2015 Posted 12 April, 2015 Wouldn't this be a good place to shut the thread? Surely he can't get any more stupid than that. So you would run away from a traffic stop??? that's what stupid means
SarniaSaint Posted 12 April, 2015 Posted 12 April, 2015 Give it time hutch. Have faith. Not sure if shutting this thread down would prove anything..........
saint si Posted 12 April, 2015 Posted 12 April, 2015 So you would run away from a traffic stop??? that's what stupid means Running away - a crime punishable by death.
scotty Posted 12 April, 2015 Posted 12 April, 2015 Running away - a crime punishable by death. Ah, but you need to understand that if the cop hadn't shot him, he might have ran into a small child and killed or seriously injured them. Is that what you really want? Dead children??
Goatboy Posted 12 April, 2015 Posted 12 April, 2015 Not sure if shutting this thread down would prove anything.......... I just don't like watching the terminally dense suffer:(
SarniaSaint Posted 12 April, 2015 Posted 12 April, 2015 Running away - a crime punishable by death. Do you really know what happened ???.......if you are pulled over for a traffic stop you don't run away and keep going after being told to stop.....what part of that don't you understand eh???
SarniaSaint Posted 12 April, 2015 Posted 12 April, 2015 Ah, but you need to understand that if the cop hadn't shot him, he might have ran into a small child and killed or seriously injured them. Is that what you really want? Dead children?? Poor effort at humor there scotty......but I really didn't expect anything else ........keep them coming will rate them
SarniaSaint Posted 12 April, 2015 Posted 12 April, 2015 I just don't like watching the terminally dense suffer:( Who do you mean ??......the know nothing brits ??......or is this just another go at me??..........LOL goatboy .........
saint si Posted 13 April, 2015 Posted 13 April, 2015 Do you really know what happened ???.......if you are pulled over for a traffic stop you don't run away and keep going after being told to stop.....what part of that don't you understand eh??? Ok, so you've gone from defending guns (I don't agree, but I do at least understand the self defence argument... although not the point of the 2nd amendment) to now outright defending murder because the victim tried to run away from a cop. Mental.
View From The Top Posted 13 April, 2015 Posted 13 April, 2015 Do you really know what happened ???.......if you are pulled over for a traffic stop you don't run away and keep going after being told to stop.....what part of that don't you understand eh??? So if you run away you deserve to be shot in the back 8 times?
whelk Posted 13 April, 2015 Posted 13 April, 2015 (edited) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11531791/Three-year-old-shoots-dead-baby-in-accident.html "It's a sad day for Cleveland," he told reporters. "This fascination that we have with handguns, not just in this city but in this country, has to stop. This is a senseless loss of life." And another one http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11531766/Cop-fatally-shoots-black-suspect-after-confusing-gun-for-Taser.html Edited 13 April, 2015 by whelk
sadoldgit Posted 13 April, 2015 Posted 13 April, 2015 Do you really know what happened ???.......if you are pulled over for a traffic stop you don't run away and keep going after being told to stop.....what part of that don't you understand eh??? So you really think that running away should be punishable by eight rounds in the back? For a traffic violation?
sadoldgit Posted 13 April, 2015 Posted 13 April, 2015 So if you run away you deserve to be shot in the back 8 times? At least the cop has been charged with murder. Just as well it was filmed though, they had little choice thanks to the footage.
SarniaSaint Posted 14 April, 2015 Posted 14 April, 2015 Ok, so you've gone from defending guns (I don't agree, but I do at least understand the self defence argument... although not the point of the 2nd amendment) to now outright defending murder because the victim tried to run away from a cop. Mental. where did I defend the cop???.....what did he was wrong that's why he has a murder charge!!.......what I am saying is don't run and stay in the vehicle this applies for everyone........unless you have a reason to run then take your chances. OK
SarniaSaint Posted 14 April, 2015 Posted 14 April, 2015 So if you run away you deserve to be shot in the back 8 times? Why run away from a traffic stop in the first place??
SarniaSaint Posted 14 April, 2015 Posted 14 April, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11531791/Three-year-old-shoots-dead-baby-in-accident.html "It's a sad day for Cleveland," he told reporters. "This fascination that we have with handguns, not just in this city but in this country, has to stop. This is a senseless loss of life." And another one http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11531766/Cop-fatally-shoots-black-suspect-after-confusing-gun-for-Taser.html MMMM the telegraph...........that paper still have readers ???...........apart from you
SarniaSaint Posted 14 April, 2015 Posted 14 April, 2015 So you really think that running away should be punishable by eight rounds in the back? For a traffic violation? No.......... one round would have been enough (tongue in cheek reply)
SarniaSaint Posted 14 April, 2015 Posted 14 April, 2015 At least the cop has been charged with murder. Just as well it was filmed though, they had little choice thanks to the footage. Would have happened even without the vid........ HTH
Goatboy Posted 14 April, 2015 Posted 14 April, 2015 Would have happened even without the vid........ HTH I very much doubt it seeing as he originally claimed that the nasty black man tried to steal his tazer and then attempted to plant said tazer near his victim's lifeless body. Maybe he shouldn't have ran away though. Would have been harder for the cop to fake a scene of struggle inside the vehicle.
View From The Top Posted 14 April, 2015 Posted 14 April, 2015 (edited) Why run away from a traffic stop in the first place?? It was a simple question even for the hard of thinking so try and answer it with a simple yes or no, even a man of your modest ability should be able to do that. If you run away do you deserve to be shot in the back 8 times? Edited 14 April, 2015 by View From The Top
Verbal Posted 14 April, 2015 Posted 14 April, 2015 Why run away from a traffic stop in the first place?? Something tells me you're not black.
Jez Posted 14 April, 2015 Posted 14 April, 2015 I pop into this thread now and then for a laugh. I'm amazed anyone is bothering to still talk to Sarnia, and how many pages this thread has reached. He is clearly a child no?
Micky Posted 14 April, 2015 Posted 14 April, 2015 I pop into this thread now and then for a laugh. I'm amazed anyone is bothering to still talk to Sarnia, and how many pages this thread has reached. He is clearly a child no? I do the same. I do pray that Sarnia is the village idiot though.
lloydie Posted 14 April, 2015 Posted 14 April, 2015 TBF he doesn't get any if it. He's not right bright. One of the most worrying people to not be sectioned i've seen on here.
Trader Posted 14 April, 2015 Posted 14 April, 2015 At least we can be grateful he removed himself from the UK gene pool.
Saint_clark Posted 14 April, 2015 Posted 14 April, 2015 MMMM the telegraph...........that paper still have readers ???...........apart from you Any comment on the content of the article? How are you going to justify that one?
SarniaSaint Posted 14 April, 2015 Posted 14 April, 2015 I very much doubt it seeing as he originally claimed that the nasty black man tried to steal his tazer and then attempted to plant said tazer near his victim's lifeless body. Maybe he shouldn't have ran away though. Would have been harder for the cop to fake a scene of struggle inside the vehicle. WTF are you talking about now??...got your tasers and firearms confused??
SarniaSaint Posted 15 April, 2015 Posted 15 April, 2015 It was a simple question even for the hard of thinking so try and answer it with a simple yes or no, even a man of your modest ability should be able to do that. If you run away do you deserve to be shot in the back 8 times? Why run away from a traffic stop eh??......if you can answer that please do
SarniaSaint Posted 15 April, 2015 Posted 15 April, 2015 Something tells me you're not black. Hey you're taking this to a new level playing the racial card........add religion next time.......
SarniaSaint Posted 15 April, 2015 Posted 15 April, 2015 I pop into this thread now and then for a laugh. I'm amazed anyone is bothering to still talk to Sarnia, and how many pages this thread has reached. He is clearly a child no? Never know might be your dad !!!
SarniaSaint Posted 15 April, 2015 Posted 15 April, 2015 One of the most worrying people to not be sectioned i've seen on here. WTF does that mean...... cut up in pieces
SarniaSaint Posted 15 April, 2015 Posted 15 April, 2015 At least we can be grateful he removed himself from the UK gene pool. whatever .............you live your little life in the uk and just be thank full that I aint there
SarniaSaint Posted 15 April, 2015 Posted 15 April, 2015 I do the same. I do pray that Sarnia is the village idiot though. think you meant hope not pray.....sorry for telling you brits how the rest of the world see you.......so if that makes me the village idiot in your eyes....... oh well do you really think I give a F..........
SarniaSaint Posted 15 April, 2015 Posted 15 April, 2015 Any comment on the content of the article? How are you going to justify that one? That guy was a volunteer ok...........these volunteers help to keep the streets safe .........if you don't agree with that concept well OK .....you just defined for the brit mindset........
Goatboy Posted 15 April, 2015 Posted 15 April, 2015 WTF are you talking about now??...got your tasers and firearms confused?? No SS. I read the report of the incident. Did you?
View From The Top Posted 15 April, 2015 Posted 15 April, 2015 Why run away from a traffic stop eh??......if you can answer that please do Easy, he had family court violations and didn't want to be arrested. Does that mean he deserved to be shot in the back 8 times? A simple yes or no will do.
saint si Posted 15 April, 2015 Posted 15 April, 2015 Hey you're taking this to a new level playing the racial card........add religion next time....... Hmmm, replying on basis of simple word recognition instead of actually comprehending what's being said.... are you Siri?
Goatboy Posted 15 April, 2015 Posted 15 April, 2015 Hmmm, replying on basis of simple word recognition instead of actually comprehending what's being said.... are you Siri? He seem velly siri to me.
Saint_clark Posted 15 April, 2015 Posted 15 April, 2015 That guy was a volunteer ok...........these volunteers help to keep the streets safe .........if you don't agree with that concept well OK .....you just defined for the brit mindset........ I was referring to the other one, where a baby was shot dead by a toddler using a gun that was just lieing around.
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