pap Posted 18 March, 2015 Share Posted 18 March, 2015 The Royal veto is only, ( and very rarely ), exercised on the advice of ministers, so whose vested interests do you think such act would be serving ? Doubt it. Simple fact is, we've been led to believe that the monarch's powers are ceremonial. They aren't. http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/14/secret-papers-royals-veto-bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 March, 2015 Share Posted 18 March, 2015 OK do you believe in the right to defend yourself ?..............I do and would in a heart beat. And what, pray tell, are we defending ourselves from? I live in a average UK town of around 70,000 people. We've had 3 murders in 3 years, 1 was a psychotic son who killed his mum, a smack head killing his flatmate smack head and a fella in a van, off his head, ran down an OAP in Xmas Eve. We've had no ra pes, assaults are the usual Friday/Saturday night punch ups and breaking and entering is rare and aggravated burglary hasn't been reported in years. So, again, who exactly am I needing to protect myself from with that I'd need a 9mm handgun or a semi automatic assault rifle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 18 March, 2015 Share Posted 18 March, 2015 (edited) Doubt it. Simple fact is, we've been led to believe that the monarch's powers are ceremonial. They aren't. http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/14/secret-papers-royals-veto-bills According to that, which I had previously read, HMQ only vetoed one bill, a private members bill trying to remove the need for her authority to declare war. All the other bills mentioned required royal consent, which was given under advice from ministers; "The sovereign has not refused to consent to any bill affecting crown interests unless advised to do so by ministers". Mind you, David Cameron has held some interesting opinions on this : http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2006/feb/06/uk.conservatives Edited 18 March, 2015 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 18 March, 2015 Share Posted 18 March, 2015 And what, pray tell, are we defending ourselves from? I live in a average UK town of around 70,000 people. We've had 3 murders in 3 years, 1 was a psychotic son who killed his mum, a smack head killing his flatmate smack head and a fella in a van, off his head, ran down an OAP in Xmas Eve. We've had no ra pes, assaults are the usual Friday/Saturday night punch ups and breaking and entering is rare and aggravated burglary hasn't been reported in years. So, again, who exactly am I needing to protect myself from with that I'd need a 9mm handgun or a semi automatic assault rifle? Bears, coyotes and gun grabbing loons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 March, 2015 Share Posted 18 March, 2015 Bears, coyotes and gun grabbing loons. I rode over Cannock Chase solo last night and in the deepest darkest part of it a couple of Muntjac deer started barking. It's a sound that makes your blood run cold and sounds like a beast from the darkest pits of Hades is coming to take your soul. At that point I found myself reaching for my trusty assault rifle. Oh no, wait, I didn't, I just sprinted like Mark Cavendish with my arse going 5p/50p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 18 March, 2015 Share Posted 18 March, 2015 I rode over Cannock Chase solo last night and in the deepest darkest part of it a couple of Muntjac deer started barking. It's a sound that makes your blood run cold and sounds like a beast from the darkest pits of Hades is coming to take your soul. At that point I found myself reaching for my trusty assault rifle. Oh no, wait, I didn't, I just sprinted like Mark Cavendish with my arse going 5p/50p. I've found just the thing : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 18 March, 2015 Share Posted 18 March, 2015 (edited) I find that some threads are best skim-read; this thread has long since been one of them. However, this approach can be problematic. For instance, I mistook the '1' for an 'I' at the start of the bold bit: And what, pray tell, are we defending ourselves from? I live in a average UK town of around 70,000 people. We've had 3 murders in 3 years, 1 was a psychotic son who killed his mum, a smack head killing his flatmate smack head and a fella in a van, off his head, ran down an OAP in Xmas Eve. We've had no ra pes, assaults are the usual Friday/Saturday night punch ups and breaking and entering is rare and aggravated burglary hasn't been reported in years. So, again, who exactly am I needing to protect myself from with that I'd need a 9mm handgun or a semi automatic assault rifle? If ever there was a case for spelling out small numbers as letters, this was it, VFTT! Edited 18 March, 2015 by Halo Stickman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 18 March, 2015 Share Posted 18 March, 2015 According to that, which I had previously read, HMQ only vetoed one bill, a private members bill trying to remove the need for her authority to declare war. All the other bills mentioned required royal consent, which was given under advice from ministers; "The sovereign has not refused to consent to any bill affecting crown interests unless advised to do so by ministers". Mind you, David Cameron has held some interesting opinions on this : http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2006/feb/06/uk.conservatives My feeling is that we're told one thing while another happens to be the case. One of the cases I often make is that true power persists, which is something that the monarchy certainly does. Every PM has had a weekly meeting with the Queen since forever. If the role of the monarchy is purely ceremonial, what does the PM need to consult the Queen for? For anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 18 March, 2015 Share Posted 18 March, 2015 My feeling is that we're told one thing while another happens to be the case. One of the cases I often make is that true power persists, which is something that the monarchy certainly does. Every PM has had a weekly meeting with the Queen since forever. If the role of the monarchy is purely ceremonial, what does the PM need to consult the Queen for? For anything? Advice on how to do his job. She has been around for a long while and her experience is highly valued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 As long as they don't shoot him multiple times when unarmed and on the floor eh? Get your facts right goat BOY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 I love it how Sarnia is literally singlehandedly keeping this thread going, and everyone keeps responding in an increasingly tired, but non complaining fashion, even though every possible point that could be made, has been made to death. Respect Sarnia. Lou ..........I cant say LOL because the brain dead don't like it .....but TY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 I'm sure you would. Somebody would punch you in the face (probably because you deserved a slap) and to get even, you'd probably get out your heaviest duty semi-automatic assault rifle and fill him full of holes. Such is self-defence in America. Oh Boy.......let me guess shoe size same as IQ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Remember the dude in Wayne's World that used to say "I love you, man!"? If the recipient said "I love you too", it could go on for ages. Wayne and Garth would quickly advise people to say "thank you", the only known code word to end the exchange. Perhaps Sarnia's input is a bit like that bloke. All we have to do is say "nah, actually, there isn't a problem with America. You were right all along, Sarns, me ol' fruit and nut". And then it's over.... Go on say it then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 As I said, top trolling! If trolling means dis-agreeing with you ................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Lou ..........I cant say LOL because the brain dead don't like it .....but TY You should probably find out what LOL means at some point, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 If trolling means dis-agreeing with you ................. Nah. It pretty much means not making a cogent argument, calling people thick when they ask you pertinent questions, not answering most of the points people put to you, using knife crime in the UK to support gun culture in the US etc. Go on, call me stupid or just put LOL. That will be extremely original and witty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 In the spirit of scientific investigation, why don't we take it in turns to reply to Sarnia so that we can then learn just how long he is prepared to keep this going? I'm betting it will be a matter of years. You never know, we could write a article entitled 'Internet Forum Psychosis' on our findings, submit it to the Journal of Physiological Research for publication, and then become fabulously wealthy on the earnings. Hey I can go for that but want 50% of the earnings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 And what, pray tell, are we defending ourselves from? I live in a average UK town of around 70,000 people. We've had 3 murders in 3 years, 1 was a psychotic son who killed his mum, a smack head killing his flatmate smack head and a fella in a van, off his head, ran down an OAP in Xmas Eve. We've had no ra pes, assaults are the usual Friday/Saturday night punch ups and breaking and entering is rare and aggravated burglary hasn't been reported in years. So, again, who exactly am I needing to protect myself from with that I'd need a 9mm handgun or a semi automatic assault rifle? Wow that's 3 more murders than here in Sarnia Ontario (pop 75000 and border city) ..............so maybe there is something in what I am saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Bears, coyotes and gun grabbing loons. Words of wisdom from a fu....g goat LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 You should probably find out what LOL means at some point, though. I know what it means PAP ..........sorry just laugh out loud at all of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Nah. It pretty much means not making a cogent argument, calling people thick when they ask you pertinent questions, not answering most of the points people put to you, using knife crime in the UK to support gun culture in the US etc. Go on, call me stupid or just put LOL. That will be extremely original and witty... Hey no one asked any pertinent questions ...........took all their so called facts from the uk media............and the knife crime was just to show you all that you lot ain't that perfect ...............OK HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 I know what it means PAP ..........sorry just laugh out loud at all of you Do you laugh out loud at these people as well - but they obviously know nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Wow that's 3 more murders than here in Sarnia Ontario (pop 75000 and border city) ..............so maybe there is something in what I am saying It's Canada, I don't think anyone on here has a problem with Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Great Pap we do have new cop cars now.......Dodge Chargers painted dark blue...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Maybe you should be careful next time you pop over the border Sarnia. (I did not get this from the distorted British media) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Do you laugh out loud at these people as well - but they obviously know nothing. Why would I LOL at that???...........what the point you trying to make???........but hey TY for showing a bit of Sarnia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 (edited) Maybe you should be careful next time you pop over the border Sarnia. (I did not get this from the distorted British media) Hey I go to Michigan all the time...............so what's your point ......go on tell me BTW that ain't the Sarnia - Port Huron crossing ..........try again Edited 19 March, 2015 by SarniaSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Oh Boy.......let me guess shoe size same as IQ???? Indeed, I suspect that is the case with you, judging from your responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Indeed, I suspect that is the case with you, judging from your responses. Don't want to get in a personal argument but..........you do seem to be the typical "know all but know nothing brit" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 And the winner is........................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Don't want to get in a personal argument but..........you do seem to be the typical "know all but know nothing brit" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 [/QUO Great just that are more male airheads in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 and the winner is.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 [/QUO Great just that are more male airheads in the UK Top grammar:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Top grammar:) Must make you feel so wonderful with your "brit superior than you attitude" if all you can do is crititize spelling and grammar. EH goat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Must make you feel so wonderful with your "brit superior than you attitude" if all you can do is crititize spelling and grammar. EH goat Your "America is superior and you're all no-nothing helpless subjects of a monach" attitude is much better. Especially as a English born person living in Canada. Must make you feel so wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 21 March, 2015 Share Posted 21 March, 2015 Well, fun as it has been to deal with Sarnia's nightly emissions, how about some broader questions on the nation at hand. For starters, where do people think the US is going to become in the next 100 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 March, 2015 Share Posted 21 March, 2015 http://abc7news.com/news/machete-wielding-man-shot-at-new-orleans-airport/567316/ The entirely British phenomenon of nutcases with knives has finally, finally arrived in the US. Of course, the police shot him with the much less harmful "gun" thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 21 March, 2015 Share Posted 21 March, 2015 Must make you feel so wonderful with your "brit superior than you attitude" if all you can do is crititize spelling and grammar. EH goat I could criticise plenty of other stuff Sarnia but I fear that you wouldn't fully understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 21 March, 2015 Share Posted 21 March, 2015 http://abc7news.com/news/machete-wielding-man-shot-at-new-orleans-airport/567316/ The entirely British phenomenon of nutcases with knives has finally, finally arrived in the US. Of course, the police shot him with the much less harmful "gun" thing. The female TSA officer needs to spend time on the firing range before she returns to duty. That is not good shooting, one in the arm, one in the leg and one in the "facial area". And a colleague was also shot in the arm somehow. As the assailant was not described as being armed with a gun, we must assume that the injured officer was the victim of what has euphimistically become known from battle zones around the World involving Americans as "friendly fire". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 21 March, 2015 Share Posted 21 March, 2015 http://abc7news.com/news/machete-wielding-man-shot-at-new-orleans-airport/567316/ The entirely British phenomenon of nutcases with knives has finally, finally arrived in the US. Of course, the police shot him with the much less harmful "gun" thing. Just as a matter of interest, CB, what is your knife of choice? What do you consider the ideal blade length and width for a general purpose knife? A stiletto is good for the precision work, and a flick knife is practical for concealment purposes. Or do you fall into the camp of this assailant and go for something big and crude like a machete or a combat knife? Which is the best all-round hunting knife in your opinion, the best for dispatching the prey and then skinning it? If you were to arm yourself properly with say three knives for all potential situations that you might encounter in the urban jungle, what would they be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 March, 2015 Share Posted 21 March, 2015 Just as a matter of interest, CB, what is your knife of choice? What do you consider the ideal blade length and width for a general purpose knife? A stiletto is good for the precision work, and a flick knife is practical for concealment purposes. Or do you fall into the camp of this assailant and go for something big and crude like a machete or a combat knife? Which is the best all-round hunting knife in your opinion, the best for dispatching the prey and then skinning it? If you were to arm yourself properly with say three knives for all potential situations that you might encounter in the urban jungle, what would they be? Like most British people, Wes, I tend to carry six or seven knives on me at any one time, for all eventualities. I shove my hand in my coat pocket and it comes out like Wolverine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 21 March, 2015 Share Posted 21 March, 2015 Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 21 March, 2015 Share Posted 21 March, 2015 Brilliant. Excellent film. I find it so strange that a clearly educated woman would start her sentence with "it is one of our rights but..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 21 March, 2015 Share Posted 21 March, 2015 A bit repetitive but........http://trib.al/zuZkLCr Woman Driver Shot In Head After Honking Horn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 21 March, 2015 Share Posted 21 March, 2015 Brilliant. That's all very well pap but if I gots me a raccoon dipping in my trash can I is gonna blow that motherf*kkas brains all over my yard. It's my mouth*kkin rights man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 21 March, 2015 Share Posted 21 March, 2015 That's all very well pap but if I gots me a raccoon dipping in my trash can I is gonna blow that motherf*kkas brains all over my yard. It's my mouth*kkin rights man. I saw it posted on Facebook and just thought it was perfect for this thread. Look, if you've a serious raccoon problem, just use your innate British knife throwing skills to dispense with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 21 March, 2015 Share Posted 21 March, 2015 I saw it posted on Facebook and just thought it was perfect for this thread. Look, if you've a serious raccoon problem, just use your innate British knife throwing skills to dispense with it. Will do. Thanks pap. Running low on ammo anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 21 March, 2015 Share Posted 21 March, 2015 Now my neighbour is well stressed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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