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I have installed XMBC on my Windows7 machine and see that you need to install a US VPN in order to stream live TV/games. Has anyone else done this and is it really just a case of downloading a free bit of S/W to get this VPN? Or have people paid for a VPN? Would really like to try and get it up and running for the match tomorrow and this program if poss. Would appreciate any tips and advice.

 

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Hmm doesn't seem to be on NBC Canada.

 

Got to love the Swansea love in on here, NBC decided Saints are more interesting, just enjoy it.

 

Never understand you contrairians, always looking to find fault in something, I swear if we somehow finish 4th you'll be flooding the board with, "oh but look at the points total, lowest ever to get 4th", or "Only 2 teams played well all year, let's wait until Spurs, Arse, Liverpool are really playing".

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I have installed XMBC on my Windows7 machine and see that you need to install a US VPN in order to stream live TV/games. Has anyone else done this and is it really just a case of downloading a free bit of S/W to get this VPN? Or have people paid for a VPN? Would really like to try and get it up and running for the match tomorrow and this program if poss. Would appreciate any tips and advice.

 

Cheers

 

Dan

 

I use this to watch our games.

 

http://www.unotelly.com/ is the SmartDNS I use to be able to watch the add-on. You can just keep using the free trial over and over...

 

Great add-on btw, the quality of the streams for our games are outstanding.

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I am hoping one of our transatlantic contributors/stream geek experts will get hold of this and bung it up somewhere we can all watch it.

 

What are the chances?

 

You'll have to wait until after the 5 days of riots and looting in every major American city protesting that a real team like Swansea weren't featured...

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You'll have to wait until after the 5 days of riots and looting in every major American city protesting that a real team like Swansea weren't featured...

Can you let us know who on this thread has complained that NBC have made a programme about Saints and not Swansea?

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What I don't understand is how this documentary is made in the US and not over here (yeah, yeah, CB Fry, before you bite my head off, I know there's no media conspiracy against us). You'd think, in a football obsessed country like ours, we'd be going over board with the Southampton story. I know we get decent coverage in the papers now (though it took them a while) but this is an amazing rags to riches story, and actually not far from creating a revolution in football. Yet I've given up watching Football Focus as there's barely a mention. Maybe we're just too blasé about this sort of thing in this country, or maybe we're too cynical about success. Or maybe TV is too obsessed with numbers game so feel the pressure to feature the big clubs all the time. But the fact the US find us interesting enough to make a documentary about us, while we're sitting at home in rainy England twiddling our thumbs, is beyond me.

 

ESPN did a really good set of programmes following the USNMT (aka the US World Cup team) prior to the World Cup, and NFL films has been a "thing" for a good 30 years, I think it's just that sports documentaries tend to be a thing US tv does well - and obviously as we're a "new thing" for a lot of fans from even the past 10 years, there's going to be interest in Saints and how we do things. The spiel is all about how we challenge the bigger sides, and that's an interesting selling point.

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It's surely a much more exciting story than Swansea.

 

Because the trajectory of our ascent is so much greater/faster. They steadily worked their way up. Good for them. But they weren't days from liquidation or at the bottom of the third division with a ten point penalty 5 years ago.

 

They also didn't have the summer of Armageddon. And then the incredible, pundit-defying rebuild. Nor do they have the academy success.

 

If CB Fry thinks an hour-long documentary entitled "How Swansea City beat Bradford City 5-0 and thereby won more silverware than Southampton in recent years, assuming you don't count the Johnstone Paint Trophy" would make more gripping viewing, then I'd advise against a career as a commissioning editor in television....

 

Be fair, Swansea only won the JPT in 2006, we were already out of the Prem by then. It's still "recent", it was only 4 years before we won it.

 

I think the point being missed is that this documentary is being released at a time when we're clearly the more interesting story BECAUSE our eventual destiny is unknown and it's still a work in progress. Doing one about a team that got into Europe last season and won the League Cup a couple of years ago would have been a good idea last season. Just like this will look a bit silly if we finish 8th again and the academy doesn't produce any more Prem players.

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Be fair, Swansea only won the JPT in 2006, we were already out of the Prem by then. It's still "recent", it was only 4 years before we won it.

 

I think the point being missed is that this documentary is being released at a time when we're clearly the more interesting story BECAUSE our eventual destiny is unknown and it's still a work in progress. Doing one about a team that got into Europe last season and won the League Cup a couple of years ago would have been a good idea last season. Just like this will look a bit silly if we finish 8th again and the academy doesn't produce any more Prem players.

 

We're more interesting because the historic strength of the Academy gives us our story the appearance of structure and sustainability -as if it could be boiled down to a business school case study (which yanks love), ripe for application in other areas. Ultimately wheeling and dealing in the transfer market -buying an undervalued Michu or a Bony- feels like a crapshoot -not to mention is much less romantic and resonant than the whole yoof revolution angle.

 

Of course, the story is a caricature. We do not owe everything to the Academy, especially this season and its prodigious output in recent years might just be a freakish blip. But, coupled with our rapid and ongoing rise, its not hard to see why we're a story and Swansea are not.

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It's worth pointing out for one last time that no one is saying NBC should make a documentary about Swansea City rather than Saints.

 

I brought up Swansea when someone described the SFC Leibherr story as a "phenomenal rags to riches story" which it quite frankly ain't. Other clubs can lay claim to that - one in South Wales springs to mind - but really not us.

 

And I was addressing the bonkers assertion that the SFC sold-everyone-but-turned-out-great-in-the-end story has been ignored by the media in the UK. Apparently Football Focus have never, ever mentioned it. So nowt to do with NBC anyway.

 

Anyway, I'd like to see the documentary so if anyone is planning on stashing on the Internet then let us know.

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It's worth pointing out for one last time that no one is saying NBC should make a documentary about Swansea City rather than Saints.

 

I brought up Swansea when someone described the SFC Leibherr story as a "phenomenal rags to riches story" which it quite frankly ain't. Other clubs can lay claim to that - one in South Wales springs to mind - but really not us.

 

And I was addressing the bonkers assertion that the SFC sold-everyone-but-turned-out-great-in-the-end story has been ignored by the media in the UK. Apparently Football Focus have never, ever mentioned it. So nowt to do with NBC anyway.

 

Anyway, I'd like to see the documentary so if anyone is planning on stashing on the Internet then let us know.

 

Also, they might make a documentary about Swansea at some point too. I would watch it.

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It's worth pointing out for one last time that no one is saying NBC should make a documentary about Swansea City rather than Saints.

 

I brought up Swansea when someone described the SFC Leibherr story as a "phenomenal rags to riches story" which it quite frankly ain't. Other clubs can lay claim to that - one in South Wales springs to mind - but really not us.

 

And I was addressing the bonkers assertion that the SFC sold-everyone-but-turned-out-great-in-the-end story has been ignored by the media in the UK. Apparently Football Focus have never, ever mentioned it. So nowt to do with NBC anyway.

 

Anyway, I'd like to see the documentary so if anyone is planning on stashing on the Internet then let us know.

 

Jeez CB Fry, you're on such a mission to prove that crazy saints fans are living in cloud cuckoo land about the press, you end up completely missing the point.

 

The fact Saints were in administration then rose to where we are now, is in my vulgar terms, a rags to riches story. If you think there's a better phrase to describe it, I don't mind - please feel free to suggest it. But the central point to my original post was it's an interesting and entertaining story and I don't understand why TV in the States feels their audiences would be interested, and TV in the UK (a football obsessed country) doesn't. Although since I wrote the original post, a couple of wiser posters enlightened me about sports documentaries in the States. Which makes absolute sense to me.

 

Meanwhile, you carry on nitpicking, and trying to belittle me with your semi obsessive defence of the British media if that makes you happy.

 

While you're doing that, I'm heading off out to party.

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Jeez CB Fry, you're on such a mission to prove that crazy saints fans are living in cloud cuckoo land about the press, you end up completely missing the point.

 

The fact Saints were in administration then rose to where we are now, is in my vulgar terms, a rags to riches story. If you think there's a better phrase to describe it, I don't mind - please feel free to suggest it. But the central point to my original post was it's an interesting and entertaining story and I don't understand why TV in the States feels their audiences would be interested, and TV in the UK (a football obsessed country) doesn't. Although since I wrote the original post, a couple of wiser posters enlightened me about sports documentaries in the States. Which makes absolute sense to me.

 

Meanwhile, you carry on nitpicking, and trying to belittle me with your semi obsessive defence of the British media if that makes you happy.

 

While you're doing that, I'm heading off out to party.

He doesn't miss the point at all, because his point is that he is so elevated above the ordinary fan and everyone else on this forum is misguided/led or annoyed by the media/biased towards the saints. He's above all that, along with his mate.

 

You should be fine with that because being a saints fan that isn't a bit misguided or is affected by the media or even a little bit biased is probably missing the point of following a football team. For most people it's an escape from the day to day grind, and most normal people have no interest in being impartial or reactionary in respect of football. So if I were you I'd be happy every time that CB Fry picks you up on anything. Enjoy your party!

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I agree there isn't much difference between Swansea's rags-to-riches and ours. Apart from not going into administration and dropping into L1 on -10 points, and from there not getting promoted to the PL in successive seasons, and not producing virtually a whole international team of talent from their academy (including the world's most expensive player), and not currently sitting in a CL place after losing the chairman, manager and 5 key players in the summer.

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I agree there isn't much difference between Swansea's rags-to-riches and ours. Apart from not going into administration and dropping into L1 on -10 points, and from there not getting promoted to the PL in successive seasons, and not producing virtually a whole international team of talent from their academy (including the world's most expensive player), and not currently sitting in a CL place after losing the chairman, manager and 5 key players in the summer.

Make a movie about it then sweetheart.

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_to_a_King_–_The_Swansea_Story

 

Happy new year.

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The fact Saints were in administration then rose to where we are now, is in my vulgar terms, a rags to riches story. If you think there's a better phrase to describe it, I don't mind - please feel free to suggest it.

 

from Slags to Smugness? that is best i've got i'm bit drunk happy new year, saintsweb bros! xx

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Mal Pope, the films producer:

"This is a truly remarkable story of how a rag tag band of builders, housewives, teachers and travel agents came together to save their football club and ended up turning their city into a worldwide brand.

 

One can expect a bit of hyperbole from the producer promoting his masterpiece, but calling Swansea a worldwide brand is stretching it a bit far, even for him.

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Advert break. Had a general intro with Krueger, Reed and Koeman speaking about the philosophy.

 

Now a look at history and the journey so far after the break...

 

 

Talking Shearer and Le Tissier... explaining to the USA that MLT is 'Le God'.

 

Interview with Matt now.

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Krueger telling the US audience what makes us different to the big boys. Our personality, status, journey - our culture and discipline to stick to our principles no matter what.

 

Says the aim is to be a regular top six club with European football, maybe in this lifetime we can challenge for the title.

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Really good watch.....Koeman comes across fantastic and we are in really safe hands with him for sure.

 

Saints marketing has sure improved beyond all recognition and anyone who supports Saints should have a warm and fuzzy glow after watching this. Hopefully we will keep picking up more and more neutrals as fans because this is one hell of a story. If we can improve our "global brand" then that can only help us in the long term.

 

Kruger came across very well and you can sense the positivity and feelgood factor around the club and everyone striving for success.

 

Great to see MLT at the start too, waxing lyrical about "our club".

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Really enjoyed that. Nothing new or earth-shattering in there at all, but thinking that this was being watched by people in the US who are just getting into this soccer thing and the EPL in particular... reflected on us really well I thought.

That said, it was on against the Rose Bowl game so I guess we have to hope they all use DVR or whatever NBC have instead of iPlayer. But still, considering there could have been nothing about us at all, it was exceptional to have it on.

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