Crazy Diamond Posted 30 December, 2014 Posted 30 December, 2014 You mean we no longer want players who are young, hungry and guranteed to improve? Exactly why he'll pick us ahead of other clubs. Queue jacker, Saints branded. He won't go hungry much longer.
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 30 December, 2014 Posted 30 December, 2014 2 years ago and for £4m then he would've been worth a punt but not now and certainly not at £12m.
Crazy Diamond Posted 30 December, 2014 Posted 30 December, 2014 Sadly £12m is the going rate. Proven goalscorer, we have the money, they don't want to sell, he's English. God knows what a club will pay for Danny Ings at the end of the season.
Matthew Le God Posted 30 December, 2014 Posted 30 December, 2014 He's English. But pretends to be Scottish... God knows what a club will pay for Danny Ings at the end of the season. Not a massive amount, he is out of contract in June and any English club that wants him will have to pay a relatively small amount of compensation like Saints did for Clyne.
Mr Saints Posted 30 December, 2014 Posted 30 December, 2014 No thanks, would prefer Ings or Austin without a doubt.
Crazy Diamond Posted 30 December, 2014 Posted 30 December, 2014 Fair cop MLG. I'll mention you in my prayers tonight.
Turkish Posted 30 December, 2014 Posted 30 December, 2014 (edited) Fair cop MLG. I'll mention you in my prayers tonight. You were right, He is English was born in Oldham, but think his dad is a jock. And yes it is the going rate, young, goal ratio better than one ever two game and contracted until 2019, so £12m seems about right whatever people bleat about him not being worth it. Actually just checked his dad isn't a jock either but an ex goalkeeper who played in Scotland and Jordan went to school there so eligible to play for them. Edited 30 December, 2014 by Turkish
Turkish Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 I'm not sure why so many people are saying this is disappointing, I don't necessarily think he is the player for us but he's one of the best young players in the championship, what more are people expecting?
CB Fry Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 It's arguable that, overall, the Championship is a higher standard than, say, the Dutch league. If he was called Giodan Van Rodes it would be fever pitch on here.
whelk Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 It's arguable that, overall, the Championship is a higher standard than, say, the Dutch league. If he was called Giodan Van Rodes it would be fever pitch on here. But he has been around a bit and no PL interest materialised which makes you wonder what scouts may have had concerns about. I haven't seen enough of him myself.
CB Fry Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 But he has been around a bit and no PL interest materialised which makes you wonder what scouts may have had concerns about. I haven't seen enough of him myself. Me neither, and he could well be a Steve Bull/Billy Sharp style lower division goal machine unsuited to the top flight. But he represents the kind of player were going to be looking at is all. Youngish, not finished articles. I think the lack of current Prem interest could be as much to do with his big contract and previous fee - he probably hasn't exceeded his worth/value yet, making him an expensive gamble.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 A year ago, or even in the Summer I'd have said no, but you only have to look at how Charlie Austin has performed who is a very similar player and he could be worth it.
Saint_clark Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 I can see a struggling premier league team taking a gamble on him in the hope he scores enough to keep them up. hull perhaps. If we were spending £12m on a forward id rather go abroad and get someone. Much better value for money. It saddens me that so many people are so ready to give up on buying British. We're steadily becoming just another Foreign Mercenary team.
Turkish Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 It saddens me that so many people are so ready to give up on buying British. We're steadily becoming just another Foreign Mercenary team. hey Clarky, how are you? I see you're still a prolific poster on here, wasn't that long ago you were saying you were looking forward to your membership expiring. What's changed, have you flipped like a burger??
Ewell Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 I'd prefer Ings after seeing him on MOTD. Even at the extra Ings would cost. Ings looks a much more dynamic player to me and seems to have more to his game. Personally I've never been convinced when I have seen Rhodes.
TheCholulaKid Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 But he has been around a bit and no PL interest materialised which makes you wonder what scouts may have had concerns about. At the risk of repeating myself - no pace. He can certainly finish. Basically he's an old Michael Owen (ability wise)
georgeweahscousin Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 I think he is an ideal signing. Young enough to still be moulded, won't be insistent on starting every week, natural goalscorer. Personally I am always bemused at the overrating of Ings. We have better in Rodriguez/Long.
Saint_clark Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 hey Clarky, how are you? I see you're still a prolific poster on here, wasn't that long ago you were saying you were looking forward to your membership expiring. What's changed, have you flipped like a burger?? My membership continued after september with no payment having been taken thankfully i'm on here a lot less than i was.
sadoldgit Posted 31 December, 2014 Author Posted 31 December, 2014 JRod was far from the finished article when he arrived here but her certainly improved.
S-Clarke Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 JRod was far from the finished article when he arrived here but her certainly improved. He really did struggle with the step up at the start, and was unsurprisingly written off by the usual culprits on here. Jay is a confidence player, when he's in a team full of confidence and he's playing well also - then he's quality. I just hope we're not going to see a totally different player next month.
Hopkins Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 I think he is an ideal signing. Young enough to still be moulded, won't be insistent on starting every week, natural goalscorer. Personally I am always bemused at the overrating of Ings. We have better in Rodriguez/Long. Why can't we mould Ings? He's younger. He wouldn't be insistent on starting every week. He's a natural goal scorer. Not sure how you judge Ings to be over rated and Rhodes the ideal signing? Personally, I'll trust what ever our recruitment team decide to do but think they are both similar. I don't think either are exceptional talents though and we could probably create one for ourselves with a bit of patience. That's what our academy is striving for is it not? With Rodriguez coming back and Seager and Gallagher coming through is Rhodes really exceptional enough to not miss out on? I also wouldn't take the Rhodes links too seriously, he's been touted around in every window for a few years now and nobody has gone for it. He can't get in the Scotland squad and I've seen Strachan explain because he doesn't offer a lot outside of the box.
farawaysaint Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 Why can't we mould Ings? He's younger. He wouldn't be insistent on starting every week. He's a natural goal scorer. Not sure how you judge Ings to be over rated and Rhodes the ideal signing? Personally, I'll trust what ever our recruitment team decide to do but think they are both similar. I don't think either are exceptional talents though and we could probably create one for ourselves with a bit of patience. That's what our academy is striving for is it not? With Rodriguez coming back and Seager and Gallagher coming through is Rhodes really exceptional enough to not miss out on? I also wouldn't take the Rhodes links too seriously, he's been touted around in every window for a few years now and nobody has gone for it. He can't get in the Scotland squad and I've seen Strachan explain because he doesn't offer a lot outside of the box. Don't know about that, we produce great defenders and midfielders but we can't seem to produce a good keeper or striker recently. Theo is probably the best forward we have produced in the last few years.
eelpie Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 It saddens me that so many people are so ready to give up on buying British. We're steadily becoming just another Foreign Mercenary team. Good point. is that what we want?
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 It saddens me that so many people are so ready to give up on buying British. We're steadily becoming just another Foreign Mercenary team. Because our English players were so loyal...
doddisalegend Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 Ings looks a much more dynamic player to me and seems to have more to his game. Personally I've never been convinced when I have seen Rhodes. Ings is proving he can hack it in the PL and is almost out of contract so could be got for a lower fee (or even free in the summer?) Rhodes has never played above the Championship (doesn't mean he can't hack it in the PL just that no one really knows) and cost 12 million. I wonder if those that said weren't happy with Ings being linked with us think Rhodes would be a better option?
Graffito Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 It saddens me that so many people are so ready to give up on buying British. We're steadily becoming just another Foreign Mercenary team. Buy quality irrespective of nationality.
krissyboy31 Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 I think he is an ideal signing. Young enough to still be moulded, won't be insistent on starting every week, natural goalscorer. Personally I am always bemused at the overrating of Ings. We have better in Rodriguez/Long. I think it's more the cost that is making people think 'no'. Ings is a decent player who is now begining to show he can play at this level, £12million is a hell of a lot of money for a player unproven at this level. I'll trust the board's/manager's judgment in which (if either) they decide to sign.
Crazy Diamond Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 I think he is an ideal signing. Young enough to still be moulded, won't be insistent on starting every week, natural goalscorer. Personally I am always bemused at the overrating of Ings. We have better in Rodriguez/Long. The blogosphere has spoken.
Dellman Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 if he comes it will be goodbye to JayRod and he will fetch £15m even after his injury, we've got to leave these decisions to the people who give the cash and balance the books, the cost isn't our business
bilbot79 Posted 31 December, 2014 Posted 31 December, 2014 We got some stick for paying 12mil for Long. Imagine if we paid 12 for this guy!
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