sadoldgit Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Echo says we are linked in a £12m move for Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 No thanks. +1 I think he'd score goals, but I fear the work of headline writers. All Rhodes lead to St. Marys. Referee mistake leads to cross Rhodes. Mane a winding Rhodes. Saints take the Long Rhodes. It will be v.terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 He really is not a £12m player in my book - However If it was around the £4m mark then I would take him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 He'd be no worse then Long, Ramirez or Osvaldo for similar money. It is a bit steep though, £8mill would be about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 +1 I think he'd score goals, but I fear the work of headline writers. All Rhodes lead to St. Marys. Referee mistake leads to cross Rhodes. Mane a winding Rhodes. Saints take the Long Rhodes. It will be v.terrible Saints strike force is now Rhodes-worthy. Rhodes-metal builds to the future. Saints' attack is now Rhodes-tested. Saints ready for its Rhodes show. Saints display their Rhodes-map for the future. The Colossus that is Rhodes. Etc., etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 30 December, 2014 Author Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Lets hope that Roma or Lazio aren't interested in him too then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 He really is not a £12m player in my book - However If it was around the £4m mark then I would take him Absolutely laughable. Can you imagine the meltdown on here if Spurs were saying on their forums that Saints want £30m for Schniderlin but we'd take him for £10m? People would be going mental at how disgusting and deluded "Spuds" fans were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziz Yebda Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Very bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 He really is not a £12m player in my book - However If it was around the £4m mark then I would take him Like you I have difficulty coming to terms with increasing 'value' put on players. Apparently Ipswich have turned down bids around the £8m mark for David McGoldrick (tidy player but unlikely to set the world alight in the Prem) Even more surprising, apparently Sunderland reckon they can get in excess of £6m for Altadore who really looks a donkey!! I suppose all this put the £12m we spent on Shane Long into some sort of perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailOB Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 He is a more proven goalscorer at that level than Jay Rod was and yet we paid 7.5m for Jay and he turned out OK If the club have the money and are willing to pay it then I don't see a problem. Would consider it less of a gamble than likes of Ramirez, Osvaldo etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Absolutely laughable. Can you imagine the meltdown on here if Spurs were saying on their forums that Saints want £30m for Schniderlin but we'd take him for £10m? People would be going mental at how disgusting and deluded "Spuds" fans were. Just saying that he is not worth £12m - Never played in the prem and not much in the way of suitors over the past couple of seasons. However, he might have talent that somebody of RonKo's class can tap out of him. Morgan on the other hand is worth £30m.... For all the reasons we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Just saying that he is not worth £12m - Never played in the prem and not much in the way of suitors over the past couple of seasons. However, he might have talent that somebody of RonKo's class can tap out of him. Morgan on the other hand is worth £30m.... For all the reasons we know. He is worth £12m give the current transfer market and his age. £11m for Ross McCorkmack?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 He is worth £12m give the current transfer market and his age. £11m for Ross McCorkmack?? Exactly my point he was not worth that amount of money either and he had a bit more about him than Rhodes last season... I realise that you do need to pay higher for British players, but you would need to be confident that if they have not played in the Premiership before that they can be good enough to cut it in there. We were convinced JayRod could when we paid out £7.5m for him, and he has - Same with Long, he has Prem experience and £12m was a going reate there. But Rhodes or indeed McCormack neither of which have Prem experience are not up there at £12m in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 He really is not a £12m player in my book - However If it was around the £4m mark then I would take him Blackburn signed him from Huddersfield for £8m, they aren't going to sell him for £4m now he's proven himself to be a top Championship striker and recently signed a new contract until 2019. You can get better value abroad but £12m is about the going rate for such a player in the current market, £4m would be a laughable bid in Blackburn's view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Exactly my point he was not worth that amount of money either and he had a bit more about him than Rhodes last season... I realise that you do need to pay higher for British players, but you would need to be confident that if they have not played in the Premiership before that they can be good enough to cut it in there. We were convinced JayRod could when we paid out £7.5m for him, and he has - Same with Long, he has Prem experience and £12m was a going reate there. But Rhodes or indeed McCormack neither of which have Prem experience are not up there at £12m in my book. We were convienced Ramirez and OSvaldo would cut it in the premier league and look how that turned out, most signings are a gamble. You might not think he's worth £12m but that is how much players cost these days, your £4m figure is laughable. A young British player with an excellent record in the championship comes at a premium. He cost them £8m, has proven himself at championship level and has 4 1/2 years left on his contract. Like i said, imagine if it was one of our players being discussed like that, people would be going nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Turkish and MLG agreeing on something. Common ground at last! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Turkish and MLG agreeing on something. Common ground at last! Do I win the 2014 diplomatic award for such a momentus achievement then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Turkish and MLG agreeing on something. Common ground at last! Do you think we need a bigger ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 We were convienced Ramirez and OSvaldo would cut it in the premier league and look how that turned out, most signings are a gamble. You might not think he's worth £12m but that is how much players cost these days, your £4m figure is laughable. A young British player with an excellent record in the championship comes at a premium. He cost them £8m, has proven himself at championship level and has 4 1/2 years left on his contract. Like i said, imagine if it was one of our players being discussed like that, people would be going nuts. Osvaldo was good enough, but he never wanted to come here in the first place and that attitude together with his general "bad head" was why he failed. Granted Ramirez has been a disappointment, and with hindsight I'm not convinced that our management team now would give him a second look - Certainly RonKo feels we can do without him. Maybe £4m is too low then if you put it like that, so I guess what remains is that we pass up on him. £12m for him is far too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 I suspect that Rhodes could score plenty of goals from close range for us, but wouldn't do a lot for the team outside the penalty area and divide opinion like Rasiak. £12 million is not actually such a risk. If he didn't work out we would get a fair bit of the fee back by selling him on to an ambitious Championship side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycrow Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Saints strike force is now Rhodes-worthy. Rhodes-metal builds to the future. Saints' attack is now Rhodes-tested. Saints ready for its Rhodes show. Saints display their Rhodes-map for the future. The Colossus that is Rhodes. Etc., etc. Irish striker Long builds up Rhodes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 I can see a struggling premier league team taking a gamble on him in the hope he scores enough to keep them up. hull perhaps. If we were spending £12m on a forward id rather go abroad and get someone. Much better value for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 I'd prefer Ings after seeing him on MOTD. Even at the extra Ings would cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Like you I have difficulty coming to terms with increasing 'value' put on players. Apparently Ipswich have turned down bids around the £8m mark for David McGoldrick (tidy player but unlikely to set the world alight in the Prem) Even more surprising, apparently Sunderland reckon they can get in excess of £6m for Altadore who really looks a donkey!! I suppose all this put the £12m we spent on Shane Long into some sort of perspective As TV money increases so do player's prices and wages. There's no point in looking at the price of players 1 or 2 years ago as a benchmark for prices now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 I'd prefer Ings after seeing him on MOTD. Even at the extra Ings would cost. He'd be cheaper because his contract is up in the summer. Doesn't make much sense paying millions now though when you could get him for free in a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 He'd be cheaper because his contract is up in the summer. Doesn't make much sense paying millions now though when you could get him for free in a few months. Our very own ITK old whatsis-face said the reason we couldn't bring in Ings last window is that Liverpool were reportedly interested and he was holding out for them. I don't imagine anything will have changed given their striker situation so I rather fear we will miss out on Danny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Charlie Austin would cost less I suspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Like you I have difficulty coming to terms with increasing 'value' put on players. Apparently Ipswich have turned down bids around the £8m mark for David McGoldrick (tidy player but unlikely to set the world alight in the Prem) Even more surprising, apparently Sunderland reckon they can get in excess of £6m for Altadore who really looks a donkey!! I suppose all this put the £12m we spent on Shane Long into some sort of perspective Be careful what you say about McGoldrick, we face him Sunday and it won't surprise me one jot if he scores the winner after all the abuse he's had on this site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 He'd be cheaper because his contract is up in the summer. Doesn't make much sense paying millions now though when you could get him for free in a few months. He won't be free, in the same way Clyne wasn't free and we cut a deal for his 'development fee'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 I'd take Rhodes, a bit like Lambert in his prime and a good scoring record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Be careful what you say about McGoldrick, we face him Sunday and it won't surprise me one jot if he scores the winner after all the abuse he's had on this site Yes, I'm sure he's been in here daily getting wound up by all the horrible things people have said. Having read all that he'll be doubly determined- if only the fools had been nice to him he might have decided not to score against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 He won't be free, in the same way Clyne wasn't free and we cut a deal for his 'development fee'. Wasn't it us and Bournemouth that developed him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Only if we sign Anders Winding from FC Odense Forward line of Long Winding Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 He won't be free, in the same way Clyne wasn't free and we cut a deal for his 'development fee'. Isn't that only for players aged under 22? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Unless we have changed the profiles of the players we are looking at Rhodes will not be coming to St. Mary's other than on an away team coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Unless we have changed the profiles of the players we are looking at Rhodes will not be coming to St. Mary's other than on an away team coach. You mean we no longer want players who are young, hungry and guranteed to improve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintmike5 Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 As Doc Emmett Brown once said, "Rhodes? Where we're going, we don't need Rhodes!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 I very much hope this is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 You mean we no longer want players who are young, hungry and guranteed to improve? Not quite what I meant! Age for a striker is ok, hungry, not sure about that, guaranteed to improve, in my opinion he will not improve sufficiently to make the grade with us. But I was actually referring to his playing style, his work rate, first touch, and ability to hold up the ball fall well short of the standards we require these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Turkish and MLG agreeing on something. Common ground at last! Do you think we need a bigger ground? I'll pray for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 If the Echo says it's £12 mil then it must be right, yeah ?? If the story is even correct at all then my guess would be £8 mil up front with add-ons (Blackburn realise they won't be promoted so are probably happy to cash in and reduce the wage bill !). FWIW I reckon he could be a great addition to the squad ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Not quite what I meant! Age for a striker is ok, hungry, not sure about that, guaranteed to improve, in my opinion he will not improve sufficiently to make the grade with us. But I was actually referring to his playing style, his work rate, first touch, and ability to hold up the ball fall well short of the standards we require these days. He's no Mayuka, I grant you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 They seem to think he is off on a rovers forum. With us being linked the most. what is worse for them, they wont be able to replace him in January either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 Wouldn't be my first choice and 12 million seems steep ......though player fees seem to be getting ever more crazy it's hard to know what's a fair cost these days. Still, if it's true, you just have to sit back and trust the club knows what it's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 If the Echo says it's £12 mil then it must be right, yeah ?? The Echo are merely rehashing the story from elsewhere a couple of days after it hit the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 I believe the modern Premier League striker needs to be able to do a few different things very well to make an impact and contribute. A poacher like Rhodes (and no doubt he can finish) is going to find the contribution he can make decrease the further down the table he plays. Just look at how Gary Hooper got on in a relegation battle last season. I think we can, and should, do better - regardless of the fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 I believe the modern Premier League striker needs to be able to do a few different things very well to make an impact and contribute. A poacher like Rhodes (and no doubt he can finish) is going to find the contribution he can make decrease the further down the table he plays. Just look at how Gary Hooper got on in a relegation battle last season. I think we can' date=' and should, do better - regardless of the fee.[/quote'] rovers fans think he is way more than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCholulaKid Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 You mean we no longer want players who are young, hungry and guranteed to improve? Not guaranteed to get quicker unfortunately. No pace - which is why most of the big clubs that looked at him when at Huddersfield weren't interested. Ask many Blackburn fans and they'd be more gutted if they lost Gestede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 30 December, 2014 Share Posted 30 December, 2014 rovers fans think he is way more than that If his hold up play and other aspects of his game have significantly improved then I stand corrected. But I haven't seen any of it the past few years to think so. Plus he can't even get in the Scotland squad so Strachan thinks there are other strikers who can contribute more, even if he is a better finisher than others who get in ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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