Batman Posted 29 December, 2014 Share Posted 29 December, 2014 Have to agree with you MLG. Yoshida has a big heart and I love him for it but he's too short and too slow to be an every week Premier League center back. but that is not what he would be here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 29 December, 2014 Share Posted 29 December, 2014 but that is not what he would be here Ok, he's too slow and too short all the time. Put him in against a Burnley if someone needs a day off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 29 December, 2014 Share Posted 29 December, 2014 He worked hard but all the things I listed in that post I stand by. I recorded and watched the Sky coverage, Souness and Neville also pointed out his problems and they weren't solely down to being up against Hazard. Did you not notice how Chelsea were targeting Yoshida rather than a 19 year old on the other side of the pitch? They saw Yoshida as the weaklink, I don't dismiss his efforts and workrate as he certainly put a shift in but he is a very limited player even when he plays in his normal position of centre back. He would be okay if we were still a bottom half Premier League team, but he is far too limited technically to play for a team challenging as we are at the top of the league. Work rate simply isn't enough at the level Saints are aspiring to reach. I think Gardos looks more composure and assured on the ball, Yoshida panics with the ball at his feet and his distribution is poor. Hazard's a left winger, you plum- less a case that they were targeting Yoshida than just getting the ball to their best player. Their play went down our right, even when Toby switched to fullback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 December, 2014 Share Posted 29 December, 2014 Ok, he's too slow and too short all the time. Put him in against a Burnley if someone needs a day off. well, he was excellent against everton? not sure for a club like saints, how much better a 3rd/4th choice CB would be. he is decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 December, 2014 Share Posted 29 December, 2014 not sure for a club like saints, how much better a 3rd/4th choice CB would be. he is decent What is you definition of a "club like Saints"? Halfway through a season we are challenging for 4th place. If we use Yoshida for a number of games we'll fall away. He is okay to start if we were in the bottom half, okay as cover if we were aiming for mid table, but to challenge at the top of the league we need a better quality of 3rd/4th choice centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 December, 2014 Share Posted 29 December, 2014 (edited) What is you definition of a "club like Saints"? Halfway through a season we are challenging for 4th place. If we use Yoshida for a number of games we'll fall away. He is okay to start if we were in the bottom half, okay as cover if we were aiming for mid table, but to challenge at the top of the league we need a better quality of 3rd/4th choice centre back. a club like saints. who cant keep hold of their best players for long. you know, just like saints we go into the january window with another loan (which I am happy with) and not a £30m spending spree. Edited 29 December, 2014 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 December, 2014 Share Posted 29 December, 2014 a club like saints. who cant keep hold of their best players for long. you know, just like saints Should we not aspire to be better than that? Dell sized mentality you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 December, 2014 Share Posted 29 December, 2014 Should we not aspire to be better than that? Dell sized mentality you have. we can aspire, but morgan will still leave in the summer at the latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 29 December, 2014 Share Posted 29 December, 2014 What is you definition of a "club like Saints"? Halfway through a season we are challenging for 4th place. If we use Yoshida for a number of games we'll fall away. He is okay to start if we were in the bottom half, okay as cover if we were aiming for mid table, but to challenge at the top of the league we need a better quality of 3rd/4th choice centre back. Out of interest, can you give an example of the kind of player that you woulld consider good enough as a back up defender for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 December, 2014 Share Posted 29 December, 2014 Ok, he's too slow and too short all the time. Put him in against a Burnley if someone needs a day off. Odd really given he is same height as Jose and Toby, 6'2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 29 December, 2014 Share Posted 29 December, 2014 Always amazes me that people go on about his height. Must be the Japanese stereotype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 December, 2014 Share Posted 29 December, 2014 Out of interest, can you give an example of the kind of player that you woulld consider good enough as a back up defender for us? Get another player at Alderweireld's level to partner him and make Fonte 3rd choice. Fonte would still get game time to keep him happy, that is how you improve the quality level of the squad if we really have ambition of competing at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 29 December, 2014 Share Posted 29 December, 2014 such grand ambitions, MLG! I'd be happy if we just hold on to the Alderweireld we've got, let alone getting another one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 29 December, 2014 Share Posted 29 December, 2014 Get another player at Alderweireld's level to partner him and make Fonte 3rd choice. Fonte would still get game time to keep him happy, that is how you improve the quality level of the squad if we really have ambition of competing at the top. Alderweireld is on loan -there's a good chance we won't sign him as bigger fish come in. So you propose we not only secure his services but also get another player of similar standing. Fantasy pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 1 January, 2015 Share Posted 1 January, 2015 What is you definition of a "club like Saints"? Halfway through a season we are challenging for 4th place. If we use Yoshida for a number of games we'll fall away. He is okay to start if we were in the bottom half, okay as cover if we were aiming for mid table, but to challenge at the top of the league we need a better quality of 3rd/4th choice centre back. Quite how you feel Yoshida isnt good enough to play for us at a back up level is beyond me. Really wasnt bad at all against Chelsea and was solid as per usual again today despite playing out of position. He is easily good enough as a back up for us and clearly is happy with his role at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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