Yoshida

[benjii]

Excellent again today.

 

I wasn't enthralled by the prospect of him at right back but he did great.

 

Good player to have.

[krissyboy31]

Played well but not a right back. I think in hindsight Koeman would have played Toby on the right and Maya in the middle. Hazard found it much more difficult once Gardos came on for him and Toby switched.

[Turkish]

Disagree. He played okay but he was far from excellent. Caught out for the goal, all Chelsea threat came down our right. It's not his fault and he did okay as I say but he isn't a right back and he was up against quality players, did his best which is all you can ask.

Edited 28 December, 2014 by Turkish

[Lorne Malvo]

He stopped for their goal which gave Hazard the advantage for the goal, but was solid enough.

[Jonnyboy]

Played well but not a right back. I think in hindsight Koeman would have played Toby on the right and Maya in the middle. Hazard found it much more difficult once Gardos came on for him and Toby switched.

 

I think we'd all keep things as they were and keep the point??

[Goatboy]

Better right backs than Maya would have struggled there today.

[austsaint]

Deserves a new contract, even if we are lucky enough to sign Toby permanently.

[krissyboy31]

Deserves a new contract, even if we are lucky enough to sign Toby permanently.

Absolutely agree with that.

[SaintSteve]

I don't think you could have been at the game... Yoshida is not a right back and was dizzy when he came off.. not his fault.. just far better as part of a defensive three.

[Mouldy Coat]

Thought he was the weak link today although he was playing out of position and I've never seen him look comfortable at full back. Memories of West Ham away a couple of seasons ago when he first played out of position there. However, I thought Tohy was outstanding and had Costa in his pocket all day. Toby was mom for me. What a player and how comfortable he looks in most positions

[Halo Stickman]

Deserves a new contract, even if we are lucky enough to sign Toby permanently.

 

Absolutely agree with that.

 

Me too.

 

Yoshi is an important member of the squad, imo. Love his commitment.

[Baird of the land]

Don't particularly want to see him start at right back again. Ideally McCarthy will come through like targett on the other side to give us cover at right back.

[Viking Saint]

Disagree. He played okay but he was far from excellent. Caught out for the goal, all Chelsea threat came down our right. It's not his fault and he did okay as I say but he isn't a right back and he was up against quality players, did his best which is all you can ask.

 

This.....he played as well as he could against world class players....would it have been better to have TA at RB and had Yoshida or Gardos starting at CB? tbh, I'm very happy with a point today...

[Saint-scooby]

He is opening quite a few doors in the "football tourist" department

[Plumstead_Saint]

Me too.

 

Yoshi is an important member of the squad, imo. Love his commitment.

+1.

Did ok today, considering he was played out of position against world class opposition!

Loved it when he scored v Everton

[Dark Munster]

He did well. He and the rest of the back four restricted a world-class team to one serious shot on goal over 94+ minutes.

[The Cat]

Was fine playing out of position. Obviously he's not got the game to burst down the line and get crosses in so we were weakened in that respect but he did a decent job.

 

Presumably he started at RB instead of Alderweireld because Koeman wanted him in the middle to keep Costa quiet. Having spent a couple of years playing up against him in training means he has the advantage of knowing his game and he kept him reasonably quiet throughout.

[alpine_saint]

Deserves a new contract, even if we are lucky enough to sign Toby permanently.

 

Yes

[sydneysaint17]

Did well but his physical restraints (speed/agility) meant that there were times when he really struggled - don't think Clyne would have let Hazard cut in quite that easily for the goal. Dont think he could have done much more - as people have said Koeman clearly wanted Toby V Costa.

[nta786]

We won't find a better 3rd choice CB.

[team-saint]

He really struggled in my opinion. But there aren't many who wouldn't against Hazard who was close to unplayable at times today. So I wouldn't be as worried about having him there vs Arsenal even though he struggled today.

[Matthew Le God]

Excellent again today.

 

I wasn't enthralled by the prospect of him at right back but he did great.

 

Good player to have.

 

I think you were at a different game to me. He really struggled defensively, positionally he was poor, his lack of pace a problem and he offered little in the way of attacking threat.

Edited 28 December, 2014 by Matthew Le God

[cellone]

Looked like Hazard did Maya then Toby to me.

[benjii]

I think you were at a different game to me. He really struggled defensively, positionally he was poor, his lack of pace a problem and he offered little in the way of attacking threat.

 

Same game. You just don't really know what you're talking about.

[Alain Perrin]

I think you were at a different game to me. He really struggled defensively, positionally he was poor, his lack of pace a problem and he offered little in the way of attacking threat.

 

I fear you may be carrying the prejudice of prior opinions. He was solid today against top quality opposition.

[ringwood]

thought Yoshi had a good game, as did the back four , imagine playing in an alien position against EH, Koeman has faith in him, shows the true value of Chambers though and that the club does not have a nailed on RB in the ranks.

 

We restricted their play, how many shots on target ? Yoshi played his part to the best of his abilities thats all we can ask until we get a squad with true depth

[VectisSaint]

I think you were at a different game to me. He really struggled defensively, positionally he was poor, his lack of pace a problem and he offered little in the way of attacking threat.

Nope, you were definitely at a different game to me and it seems everyone else. Did a terrific job in an unfamiliar position until he succombed to being ****ged out after probably running more in one game than he normally does in 2 or 3. Partly at fault for the goal admittedly, but he actully offered a lot more attacking than I expected and was defensively pretty sound for someone who clearly prefers playing left side (I was not happy when I found out he was playing RB because his previous display there was woeful but today he was very professional and deserves a lot of credit for playing where he was asked).

[rallyboy]

Let's also take into account that Hazard was unplayable today.

IMO he is just about the best player in the UK currently and despite them dominating possession we managed to marshal him into loads of pointless sideways runs, and restricted him to one shot.

 

That Chelsea team is going to destroy a few defences, even though there manager is clearly deranged and happy to make up any old ranty stuff if you stick a microphone his way.

 

Bearing that in mind, anyone who gets a point against them has done a pretty good job, and can't be too shabby.

Good performances all round.

[Ludwig]

So Yoshida was part of defence that kept the runaway league leaders/top goalscorers down to one goal, and he's not good enough?

 

Excellent work, SaintsWebbers!

[JackFrost]

I think you were at a different game to me. He really struggled defensively, positionally he was poor, his lack of pace a problem and he offered little in the way of attacking threat.

 

Your first sentence is correct, we were all at the Saints-Chelsea game today.

[John B]

Yoshida was not very good today at RB not his fault as he is a CB and does not have sufficient pace to play there but unlike most other positions we do not have a reliable player to play there

[SNSUN]

He works very hard, he's a decent player to have as a back up centre back, especially when you think it wasn't so long ago we were dealing with the likes of Jos and Martin.

 

Actually our centre back compliment of Fonte, Alderweireld, Yoshida and Gardos is probably the strongest it's been in years.

[BadgerBadger]

He did alot better than 'ok' - he's putting in some good shifts for RK and did well today considering he was up against some world class players

[Whitey Grandad]

Did well in an unusual position. I suspect he was subbed because he was on a yellow.

[whelk]

So Yoshida was part of defence that kept the runaway league leaders/top goalscorers down to one goal, and he's not good enough?

 

Excellent work, SaintsWebbers!

 

And only one attempt on target.

[ThorpG]

I think you were at a different game to me. He really struggled defensively, positionally he was poor, his lack of pace a problem and he offered little in the way of attacking threat.

 

I reckon he did as good a job as a make shift right back as can be expected, given he is a centre back. Was he as good as Clyne? No. Did he put in a good shift against one of the best attacking players in Europe? Yes. Part of a back four that kept Chelsea down to one shot on target. Good performance.

 

I wonder how Yoshida compares with the back up defensive players of most other Premier League clubs? Pretty well, I am going to say...

[Patrick Bateman]

Yoshida is turning out to be a very good central defender and should be kept on. As an emergency right back, he looks okay, but today he faced one of the very best players in the world and struggled, but that's not a surprise, nor is it a slight on him.

[S-Clarke]

I think you were at a different game to me. He really struggled defensively, positionally he was poor, his lack of pace a problem and he offered little in the way of attacking threat.

 

Hazard, on his game, would bring the weaknesses out of seasoned right backs - let a lone makeshift ones. What do you expect exactly? He wasn't at right back to offer an attacking threat for goodness sake, why are you even judging Yoshida on his lack of attacking threat? You do half come out with some waffle sometimes.

 

We will not get a better player than Yoshida for the position he is in the squad.

[Redslo]

Hazard, on his game, would bring the weaknesses out of seasoned right backs - let a lone makeshift ones. What do you expect exactly? He wasn't at right back to offer an attacking threat for goodness sake, why are you even judging Yoshida on his lack of attacking threat? You do half come out with some waffle sometimes.

 

We will not get a better player than Yoshida for the position he is in the squad.

 

Particularly if he is happy with his spot in the squad.

[Dellman]

How can anyone complain about any of our defenders today? With two main ever present full backs out, we still confined the top scorers to one shot on goal, the defence deserved 10/10 today---all of them

[hans gruber]

despite the fact Yoshi didnt listen to me when I kept screaming at him through my tv to "not give Hazard his right foot!!!" when he scored, he had a very good game....

 

very useful player to have in the squad imo

 

seriously if you dont think being a Saints fan at the moment is not brilliant, best you go support the team down the road

[southamptonfc]

How can anyone complain about any of our defenders today? With two main ever present full backs out, we still confined the top scorers to one shot on goal, the defence deserved 10/10 today---all of them

 

completely agree with this

[VectisSaint]

Did well in an unusual position. I suspect he was subbed because he was on a yellow.

 

He was clearly subbed because he was exhausted, knackered, ****ged whatever. He was out on his feet. Not surprising for the shift he put in for a CB

[SaintSteve]

He was clearly subbed because he was exhausted, knackered, ****ged whatever. He was out on his feet. Not surprising for the shift he put in for a CB

 

He wanted to come off... and passed Koeman shaking his head. So, either injured, dizzy or more likely telling Koeman not to play him against Hazard ever again.

[John Boy Saint]

Did well in an unusual position. I suspect he was subbed because he was on a yellow.

Especially against a piece of work like Hazard, once he was on a yellow Hazard already had him in his sights to get another and get a free reign on our right Ronald saw this and at the same time realised that Maya was playing with one arm tied behind his back.

Also as a natural centre back having a visa in your passport to cross the centre line at will must be a real struggle to get your head around.

[Smirking_Saint]

I think you were at a different game to me. He really struggled defensively, positionally he was poor, his lack of pace a problem and he offered little in the way of attacking threat.

 

Scary that you are the official fm researcher

[Matthew Le God]

He worked hard but all the things I listed in that post I stand by. I recorded and watched the Sky coverage, Souness and Neville also pointed out his problems and they weren't solely down to being up against Hazard. Did you not notice how Chelsea were targeting Yoshida rather than a 19 year old on the other side of the pitch? They saw Yoshida as the weaklink, I don't dismiss his efforts and workrate as he certainly put a shift in but he is a very limited player even when he plays in his normal position of centre back.

 

He would be okay if we were still a bottom half Premier League team, but he is far too limited technically to play for a team challenging as we are at the top of the league. Work rate simply isn't enough at the level Saints are aspiring to reach. I think Gardos looks more composure and assured on the ball, Yoshida panics with the ball at his feet and his distribution is poor.

Edited 29 December, 2014 by Matthew Le God

[Mouldy Coat]

Some people just won't agree with anything negative said about any player. If you review 90% of the reviews and reports they would tie in with my summary of the game. Worst player on the field 5/10 but he was playing out of position

 

Although I would argue in the sky summary that Tadic was worse than a 7. I thought Mane and Toby deserved an 8

 

 

http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/313573

Edited 29 December, 2014 by Mouldy Coat

[Bearsy]

He wanted to come off... and passed Koeman shaking his head. So, either injured, dizzy or more likely telling Koeman not to play him against Hazard ever again.

 

He clearly lost face when Hazard scored, and I'm not sure he'll ever recover. Face is very important to Japanese people. Disgusting how Mourinho & the Chelsea team targetted him second half, I hope the Kick It Out bros do something about it

[Saint_Abroad]

He worked hard but all the things I listed in that post I stand by. I recorded and watched the Sky coverage, Souness and Neville also pointed out his problems and they weren't solely down to being up against Hazard. Did you not notice how Chelsea were targeting Yoshida rather than a 19 year old on the other side of the pitch? They saw Yoshida as the weaklink, I don't dismiss his efforts and workrate as he certainly put a shift in but he is a very limited player even when he plays in his normal position of centre back.

 

He would be okay if we were still a bottom half Premier League team, but he is far too limited technically to play for a team challenging as we are at the top of the league. Work rate simply isn't enough at the level Saints are aspiring to reach. I think Gardos looks more composure and assured on the ball, Yoshida panics with the ball at his feet and his distribution is poor.

 

Have to agree with you MLG. Yoshida has a big heart and I love him for it but he's too short and too slow to be an every week Premier League center back.