Aziz Yebda Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 No way we will win this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 That said Mané in fact looked much better on the right yesterday than he has on the left. . Didn't Tadic start the season on the left? Where he was at his most effective? Sounds like a simple switch is the answer to our problems. I'd definitely start with Mane against Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Didn't Tadic start the season on the left? Where he was at his most effective? Sounds like a simple switch is the answer to our problems. I'd definitely start with Mane against Chelsea. I really think Mane was playing up the middle yesterday which is probably where he would be most effective--hence the advantages of the 3-5-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 The Times prediction index has 20% home win 28% draw 52% away win So, almost 50:50 that we won't lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Think I read that the Ref is Taylor which is worrying. Lets hope he watched MOTD and saw just the latest Chelsea diver and sends one off tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCholulaKid Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Delighted with a point. Even if we get tonked it doesn't really matter. Basically, as long as Terry doesn't score I'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Might be Maya's last game for us for a while as well, think he has to go before the Arsenal game. Maya is supposed to be available for Arsenal, Ronald agreed with the Japanese coach: "I spoke to the national coach of Japan and Maya will stay until after the game against Arsenal. Sadio will stay until after the game against Ipswich (in the FA Cup).” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 I'm not confident. Have even made Costa my fantasy football captain. For which I'm now feeling rather guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 They totally outplayed us for most of the home game last year, and they look a far better side now. Lots of pace through the centre and very confident. Vic will be the key man, really hope he has a good game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Anything we get will be a bonus being as they are beating just about everyone at the moment. Just want to see us throw the kitchen sink at them and have a good tear up. The recent games against the 'big 4' have been an anticlimax for me because we didn't really turn up in any of them. The Man Utd game in particular was a bit of a joke. If we go down all guns blazing then fair dues to them but let's actually give them a game in the first place. Great win yesterday BTW, looks like we've broken our recent bad form. I thought we'd spiral down to mid table but then I'm still haunted by the ghost of Saints past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Is Aziz, Barry Sanchez by any chance . Such a happy clapper of a fan . Not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Paul and Lawro have both spoken. Everyone was talking about Chelsea getting a game against West Ham, who were playing in the form of their life, but it was like an FA Cup game between the Premier League leaders and a team three leagues below. Chelsea were a different class. I cannot see Southampton beating them and I’m going for a 2-0 away win. PAUL PREDICTS: 0-2 Lawro: Both of these sides won comfortably on Boxing Day - Southampton at Crystal Palace and Chelsea against West Ham. Saints were also impressive when they beat Everton in their previous game and they seem to have got a bit of confidence back after their run of poor results. So, this is a big challenge for Chelsea but, just like they did against the in-form Hammers, it is one I think they will pass. Blues boss Jose Mourinho keeps picking his best team, and they keep winning games. He makes it look very simple. Lawro's prediction: 0-2 Jack's prediction: I reckon Chelsea will get a run for their money but cannot see Saints beating them. 0-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 I'm hoping "Trousers" thinks it's got a Nil - Nil written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Forster Toby Fonte Yoshida Targett Morgan Schneiderlin Davis JWP Pelle Long Subs: Davis, Gardos, McCarthy, Reed, Tadic, Mane, Mayuka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 don't know why anyone would think that we'll change formation really, especially as we don't have Bertrand and perhaps not even Clyne. 5-3-2 with whoever isn't available replaced by the young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 don't know why anyone would think that we'll change formation really, especially as we don't have Bertrand and perhaps not even Clyne. 5-3-2 with whoever isn't available replaced by the young players. Errrr..given Bertrand and Clyne are the lynchpins of the 352 system, having one or both of them absent would be a good reason to change the formation, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 (edited) Errrr..given Bertrand and Clyne are the lynchpins of the 352 system, having one or both of them absent would be a good reason to change the formation, surely? Toby is the lynchpin of the system as sweeper, who plays as wingback depends on who you have available, in fact it's the ideal system if you're forced to play one or even two neophyte wing backs, takes away a lot of defensive responsibility from them. By the by we're playing 5-3-2 not 3-5-2, subtle difference. Edited 27 December, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Toby is the lynchpin of the system as sweeper, who plays as wingback depends on who you have available, in fact it's the ideal system if you're forced to play one or even two neophyte wing backs, takes away a lot of defensive responsibility from them. By the by we're playing 5-3-2 not 3-5-2, subtle difference. Looked to me as if we're playing both, depending on when we do or don't have the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 After watching match of the day, I feel that we will lose to Chelsea 0 - 2/3, but feel we have great chance a home to Arsenal. Chelsea are pretty handy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Toby is the lynchpin of the system as sweeper, who plays as wingback depends on who you have available, in fact it's the ideal system if you're forced to play one or even two neophyte wing backs, takes away a lot of defensive responsibility from them. By the by we're playing 5-3-2 not 3-5-2, subtle difference. Disagree - we're extremely fortunate to have Bertrand and Clyne who have the athleticism and defensive quality to play as wingbacks. However, the position is highly specialised and not one where you can plug and play, let alone throw in 'neophytes'. Without the personnel and specifically given our options (assuming Clyne is also out), it's probably more sensible to revert to a back four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Is Aziz, Barry Sanchez by any chance . Such a happy clapper of a fan . Not No, Cabbage Face - you can tell by the posting style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Disagree - we're extremely fortunate to have Bertrand and Clyne who have the athleticism and defensive quality to play as wingbacks. However, the position is highly specialised and not one where you can plug and play, let alone throw in 'neophytes'. Without the personnel and specifically given our options (assuming Clyne is also out), it's probably more sensible to revert to a back four. Back four of who exactly with both fullbacks out? Targett Toby Fonte and ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Back four of who exactly with both fullbacks out? Targett Toby Fonte and ? Clyne will be fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 (edited) Back four of who exactly with both fullbacks out? Targett Toby Fonte and ? Absolutely, we need to rely on the experience of Toby,Maya and José to negate Chelsea's attacking threat, tbh it's not really a game to chuck McCarthy and Targett to the lions in. Hazard and Oscar will destroy them and leave them as quivering heaps of jelly. Let them play with 3 experience CBs at their side, give the lads a chance. If you'd seen what they did to Jenkinson and Cresswell yesterday no one would go for 4 at the back. Edited 27 December, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Clyne will be fine! Not according to some erudite person or other on the Clyne injury thread. Then again who knows who knows what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Back four of who exactly with both fullbacks out? Targett Toby Fonte and ? A tricky one, one that isn't any simpler IMO if we go with wingbacks. Not sure what the solution is: McCarthy? Toby who's played there for Belgium (though we'll probably need him in the middle for Costa)? JWP who's slotted into fullback in the past. Of course, none of these is ideal - one reason why we were linked with the likes of Sam Byram during the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 (edited) Absolutely, we need to rely on the experience of Toby,Maya and José to negate Chelsea's attacking threat, tbh it's not really a game to chuck McCarthy and Targett to the lions in. Hazard and Oscar will destroy them and leave them as quivering heaps of jelly. Let them play with 3 experience CBs at their side, give the lads a chance. If you'd seen what they did to Jenkinson and Cresswell yesterday no one would go for 4 at the back. Not sure what your point is - without agile, defensively sound wingbacks, those three are just as likely to get exposed - perhaps even more so. The alternative is that the wingbacks rarely get forward, blunting any kind of width and simply inviting the opposition to come onto us. Edited 27 December, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 MATCH FACTS Head-to-head •Chelsea have won six of the last eight meetings between these teams in league and cup. •The Blues have won on four of their last five visits to Southampton in all competitions. •Saints have claimed one victory in their last 11 league and cup games against the Blues. Southampton •Seven of Graziano Pelle's eight Premier League goals have been scored at home. He has not scored in a top-flight away match since August. •Southampton have won all 10 Premier League games in which they have taken the lead, and are the only team yet to drop points from a winning position. •Saints have kept clean sheets in six of their nine top-flight matches at St Mary's this term. •Shane Long has netted in three of his last four Premier League starts against Chelsea. Chelsea •The Blues have kept clean sheets in six of their last seven Premier League games. •They have conceded just one first-half goal in their last 14 top-flight matches (in their 2-1 win at Liverpool on 8 November). •They have won six Premier League games 2-0 this season, including each of the last three games. •Chelsea have scored 11 goals from set-pieces this season - the joint highest figure in the division (along with Crystal Palace and West Brom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Not according to some erudite person or other on the Clyne injury thread. Then again who knows who knows what. Yeh I did see that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Every time I have watched Chelsea play this season, they have been considerably better than their opponents. Newcastle may have beaten them but Chelsea were by far the better side. I would much rather that we stayed with three at the back, as this allows us to push our fullbacks on and we are much more of a threat. Bertrand will be a big miss unless Targett steps up. Stranger things have happened. I will settle for 2-2. Big Vic motm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Anything could happen but I fancy Saints to give them a game - we might even nick it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Forster Davis Cropper Clyne McCarthy Jose Gardos Toby Yoshida Targett Bertrand* * When questioned claim he's his twin brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Forster Davis Cropper Clyne McCarthy Jose Gardos Toby Yoshida Targett Bertrand* * When questioned claim he's his twin brother At least Kelvin is less likely to get beaten at his near post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Forster Toby Fonte Yoshida Targett Morgan Schneiderlin Davis JWP Pelle Long Subs: Davis, Gardos, McCarthy, Reed, Tadic, Mane, Mayuka No wanyama in squad lol. He's a cert to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 I love the back 3 of Fonte, Toby & Maya. Wing backs of Targett and McCarthy (Clyne if fit) Holding midfield of Morgan and Wanyama Steve Davis as attacking midfielder Mane to have license to play behind Pelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 I love the back 3 of Fonte, Toby & Maya. Wing backs of Targett and McCarthy (Clyne if fit) Holding midfield of Morgan and Wanyama Steve Davis as attacking midfielder Mane to have license to play behind Pelle With Tadic to come on for Davis and Long for Mane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyboy Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Drop JWP after two assists yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Drop JWP after two assists yesterday? Yes. Had a good game but this is a different game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Forster Toby Fonte Yoshida Targett Morgan Schneiderlin Davis JWP Pelle Long Subs: Davis, Gardos, McCarthy, Reed, Tadic, Mane, Mayuka As good as we are i still think we should play with eleven on the pitch. i'd like us to stick with the 532/352 and play on the counter. forster toby gardos fonte yoshi tagertt davis morgan jwp long máne i would drop pelle to the bench for more movement, Terry and Cahill would struggle much more against pace than strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 As good as we are i still think we should play with eleven on the pitch. i'd like us to stick with the 532/352 and play on the counter. forster toby gardos fonte yoshi tagertt davis morgan jwp long máne i would drop pelle to the bench for more movement, Terry and Cahill would struggle much more against pace than strength. You know Clyne is out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 As good as we are i still think we should play with eleven on the pitch. i'd like us to stick with the 532/352 and play on the counter. forster toby gardos fonte yoshi tagertt davis morgan jwp long máne i would drop pelle to the bench for more movement, Terry and Cahill would struggle much more against pace than strength. Lol. Took me a while! Think you may be right but that is a tough decision for RK. Has he ever dropped Pelle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Will be such a blow of Clyne is out as we have nobody who can give the same levelnof performance as him in that role, so hooefully he will be fine. Not the game to play McCarthy if Targett is making a first league start too. If Clyne can't play I would change the system, play Yoshida and Fonte with Toby at right back and then bring Tadic back into the front three. Zero chance of Pelle being dropped and rightly so. He is our only genuine goalscorer, has started every league game and was subbed to rest him up for this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Will be such a blow of Clyne is out as we have nobody who can give the same levelnof performance as him in that role, so hooefully he will be fine. Not the game to play McCarthy if Targett is making a first league start too. If Clyne can't play I would change the system, play Yoshida and Fonte with Toby at right back and then bring Tadic back into the front three. Zero chance of Pelle being dropped and rightly so. He is our only genuine goalscorer, has started every league game and was subbed to rest him up for this game. Agree. Not sure about Clyne. Koeman said there was only a few bumps and bruises and everyone is fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 As good as we are i still think we should play with eleven on the pitch. i'd like us to stick with the 532/352 and play on the counter. forster toby gardos fonte yoshi tagertt davis morgan jwp long máne i would drop pelle to the bench for more movement, Terry and Cahill would struggle much more against pace than strength. I had 11 in my line up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 I had 11 in my line up Yep. You had Morgan and Schneiderlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Koeman clearly said that we didn't pick up any injuries yesterday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Forster Fonte Aldeweireld Yoshida Targett Clyne Morgan Victor Tadic Long Pelle JWP instead of Tadic, and I'd probs start with Mane and use Long as supersub. Otherwise, like what you said, bruv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Delighted with a point. Even if we get tonked it doesn't really matter. Basically, as long as Terry doesn't score I'll be happy. My fantasy team includes Terry, Cahill and Costa, and I'm top of my mini-league. Even so, I want a Saints win. Southampton 4 (Clyne 4) Chelsea 3 (Terry, Cahill, Costa) ps. I also have Clyne in my fantasy team, but you may have guessed that by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 My fantasy team includes Terry, Cahill and Costa, and I'm top of my mini-league. Even so, I want a Saints win. Southampton 4 (Clyne 4) Chelsea 3 (Terry, Cahill, Costa) ps. I also have Clyne in my fantasy team, but you may have guessed that by now. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 December, 2014 Share Posted 27 December, 2014 Let's hope shane long plays and scores. When this happens we win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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