Saint Charlie Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Toby has to play midfield IMO or we will get done in that area. JWP and Davis lightweight enough without putting Reed in also, plus no guarentee Davis is even fit. Fonte, Clyne and Mane all one yellow away from a ban. One plus: Mirallas is definitely out for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 18 December, 2014 Author Share Posted 18 December, 2014 (edited) [video=youtube_share;O3GCvxaUA9k] Martinez: "I don't assess Southampton in their current moment of form. I assess them over what they have done all season. They are a joy to watch. I am impressed and not impressed with the job Ronald Koeman has done. I know how good of a manager he is. But he has adapted quickly." Que? Edit: just watched the video and he meant "I'm impressed but I'm not surprised with the job Koeman has done" Edited 18 December, 2014 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Mane one yellow away from a ban. Here's hoping then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Hate the thought of bringing Toby out of defence. It makes it so much weaker! But then midfield looks weak too! Still can't believe Wanyama and Morgan got bookings in that game. Personally I'd have made sure they (or at least one of them) got booked towards the end of the Burnley game to give them a rest against Shef Utd and also get them over that 5 booking threshold. What about Gardos or Maya in DM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanamakubwa Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Can Gardos play after being sent off Tuesday? I hate the idea of Toby not at the back, I dont like the idea of the Mane/Long/Pelle front three which hasnt worked either.Lets get Davis back in the attacking midfield role, and Tadic on the left where he started the season so well. I am not a fan of Yoshida but Toby is the only player available that can transition the play anywhere near as well as Morgan and thats what has brought our full backs into play so well - we have missed this in the previous games. He also gives us strength. Having said that for me its: Forster Clyne Fonte Yoshida Bertrand Toby JWP Davis Long Pelle Tadic Subs: Davis, Mane, Mayuka, Reed, Targett, Seager, McQueen/Isgrove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUS Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 If we can take care of Naismith and Barkley then we have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 The U21's don't have a game for a month. Time to start giving some of them more first team match time and experience while we have injuries and suspensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Can Gardos play after being sent off Tuesday? I hate the idea of Toby not at the back, I dont like the idea of the Mane/Long/Pelle front three which hasnt worked either.Lets get Davis back in the attacking midfield role, and Tadic on the left where he started the season so well. I am not a fan of Yoshida but Toby is the only player available that can transition the play anywhere near as well as Morgan and thats what has brought our full backs into play so well - we have missed this in the previous games. He also gives us strength. Having said that for me its: Forster Clyne Fonte Yoshida Bertrand Toby JWP Davis Long Pelle Tadic Subs: Davis, Mane, Mayuka, Reed, Targett, Seager, McQueen/Isgrove I had no idea Gardos had been sent off. So no, he won't be able to play either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Chris Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Can Gardos play after being sent off Tuesday? I hate the idea of Toby not at the back, I dont like the idea of the Mane/Long/Pelle front three which hasnt worked either.Lets get Davis back in the attacking midfield role, and Tadic on the left where he started the season so well. I am not a fan of Yoshida but Toby is the only player available that can transition the play anywhere near as well as Morgan and thats what has brought our full backs into play so well - we have missed this in the previous games. He also gives us strength. Having said that for me its: Forster Clyne Fonte Yoshida Bertrand Toby JWP Davis Long Pelle Tadic Subs: Davis, Mane, Mayuka, Reed, Targett, Seager, McQueen/Isgrove If Davis is fit then this will probably be the team you'd think, though I'd expect Davis rather than JWP to occupy the holiding role. So much is riding on Pelle for this one but sadly I can't see anything other than an Everton win to nil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanamakubwa Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 I kinda agree. However without Davis in that advanced role we are failing to create too many chances for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Tadic out as has been overworked. Pelle and Davis doubtful. Christ. We could get hammered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Hate the thought of bringing Toby out of defence. It makes it so much weaker! But then midfield looks weak too! Still can't believe Wanyama and Morgan got bookings in that game. Personally I'd have made sure they (or at least one of them) got booked towards the end of the Burnley game to give them a rest against Shef Utd and also get them over that 5 booking threshold. What about Gardos or Maya in DM? Given the circumstances and the experience of our manager you could almost think that they did it expressly, OK they miss Everton but it leaves them in the clear for the end of year 3 matches in 6 days shift. Gardos is suspended 3 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Given the circumstances and the experience of our manager you could almost think that they did it expressly, OK they miss Everton but it leaves them in the clear for the end of year 3 matches in 6 days shift. Gardos is suspended 3 games. Gardos 3 games? Only 1 for a professional foul I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Tadic out as has been overworked. Pelle and Davis doubtful. Christ. We could get hammered. No chance of a win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Gardos 3 games? Only 1 for a professional foul I thought. Probably right, I always associate a straight red with a 3 game ban. Not sure that it's not different here on the Continent though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 so we are without 5 of our first choice front 6. In fact if you assume Jay would be playing with Tadic and Pelle we are without our first choice front 6 players. ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Sounds like Pelle and Davis have a good chance to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 so we are without 5 of our first choice front 6. In fact if you assume Jay would be playing with Tadic and Pelle we are without our first choice front 6 players. ***** What's up with Pelle then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Looks like I'll be keeping Lukaku as captain in fantasy football... He let me down this weekend. Sod's law if I change him he'll score another hatrick against us!!! The sacrafices I make in the name of saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Tadic out as has been overworked. Pelle and Davis doubtful. Christ. We could get hammered. Lol. Better hope Everton put in a similar performance to the one they put in last season at St. Mary's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 What's up with Pelle then ? Knock and tired but likely to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Yikes with all those players out it could be an interesting line-up. Below is the best i could fashion. Forster Clyne Fonte Yoshida Bertrand Aderweireld Reed JWP Isgrove Mane Long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Front three of Mane and Long either side of Pelle with Toby, Davis and JWP in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summers Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 BBC says Tadic, Pelle and Davis all out, Saints Twitter feed - Tadic out, Pelle and Davis should be fit. So which is it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 BBC says Tadic, Pelle and Davis all out, Saints Twitter feed - Tadic out, Pelle and Davis should be fit. So which is it?! Southampton FC @SouthamptonFC · 17m 17 minutes ago Koeman says Dušan Tadić is out of Saturday's game, while Steven Davis and @GPelle19 are doubtful. #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Holy crap. Glad I got Everton at 2s yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 At least we haven't got a loads of fixtures in a short space of time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Time for the Academy to shine. And tired? Awful reason to be unavailable for a game. Unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Time for the Academy to shine. And tired? Awful reason to be unavailable for a game. Unacceptable. Miles better than Lallana for us though!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanamakubwa Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Maybe we should have taken tadic off at 60 mins every game?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 18 December, 2014 Author Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Southampton FC @SouthamptonFC · 17m 17 minutes ago Koeman says Dušan Tadić is out of Saturday's game, while Steven Davis and @GPelle19 are doubtful. #saintsfc Bit of a dilemma for Koeman..... Does he field our strongest possible line up and thus play players that aren't 100% fit or does he err on the side of longer term caution and play a less experienced but 100% fit team? Tricky one, especially on the back of 4 defeats in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Bit of a dilemma for Koeman..... Does he field our strongest possible line up and thus play players that aren't 100% fit or does he err on the side of longer term caution and play a less experienced but 100% fit team? Tricky one, especially on the back of 4 defeats in a row. If they are all really struggling then don't risk them. Give them the weekend off and get them right for Palace which is now becoming a pretty huge game for us when you considering our fixtures following it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanamakubwa Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Agreed verbal. It won't happen as we have a fixed system, but I'd be tempted with a midfield three of Toby, reed, jwp. With mane just in the hole in front and mayuka with long up top. Ok there's no width but it might give them something to think about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 So unless Pelle picked up his knock in a Sheffield nightclub we can assume he would not have played at Bramall Lane even if he was not suspended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 I know that it has been shown recently that our squad is too small, but even Chelsea or City would struggle with that many injured and suspended! Could be our youngest bench since Wotte was in charge. I'm just hoping for a miracle, like when we played the Boro team that had Ravanelli and Juhinnio et all with Neil Maddison filling in at Centre Halve. Some of the kids are really going to have to step up for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 I know that it has been shown recently that our squad is too small, but even Chelsea or City would struggle with that many injured and suspended! Could be our youngest bench since Wotte was in charge. I'm just hoping for a miracle, like when we played the Boro team that had Ravanelli and Juhinnio et all with Neil Maddison filling in at Centre Halve. Some of the kids are really going to have to step up for this one. Was that the game that a young Matt Oakley came on for Robbie Slater who got a really bad injury, ran the show and Neil Moss saved a penalty from Ravenelli? We had lost a few at that point I seem to recall, a similar result Saturday would do wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 That's the one. Although we did still have Le Tiss, Egil and Berkowitz up front, not Mane and Long ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Pelle has to play even if it means missing Palace. We'll have victor and Morgan back for that one and maybe Tadic. Part of playing in English football is playing with knocks and when you're tired. Lambert didn't miss too many and provided playing is not going to put him out for weeks Pelle needs to play through whatever knock he's got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 18 December, 2014 Author Share Posted 18 December, 2014 (edited) If they are all really struggling then don't risk them. Give them the weekend off and get them right for Palace which is now becoming a pretty huge game for us when you considering our fixtures following it Talking of the Palace game... http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/crystal-palace-stars-are-granted-their-wish-as-pitch-will-be-relaid-9932967.html Crystal Palace have finally decided to act on warnings from their players about the state of the pitch at Selhurst Park by announcing they will relay the turf. Joe Ledley was the latest Palace star to moan about the poor condition of the playing surface following a similar complaint from James McArthur, while manager Neil Warnock has admitted that work on the pitch “can’t come soon enough for the players”. The turf was left badly cut up after last weekend’s game with Stoke and the club revealed today that ground work will take place after their Boxing Day clash with Southampton. “It is like treading on sand at the moment,” said Warnock. Edited 18 December, 2014 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Clyne, Mane and Fonte are on 4 bookings at the mo..... you just know what is going to happen..... The bookings thing gets easier after dec 31st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Clyne, Mane and Fonte are on 4 bookings at the mo..... you just know what is going to happen..... The bookings thing gets easier after dec 31st 3 games before that though, guess we were just spacing them out by getting 3 suspensions on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SammyJ Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 so worst case line up looks like this then? --------------Foster--------------------- Clyne-----Fonte--- Yoshida ----Target ---------Toby ------W-Prowse--------- Mane -------- --Reed ----------Bertrand ------------------Long------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SammyJ Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 so worst case line up looks like this then? --------------Foster--------------------- Clyne-----Fonte--- Yoshida ----Target ---------Toby ------W-Prowse--------- Mane -------- --Reed ----------Bertrand ------------------Long------------------ EDIT: Forster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 F*cking tired! Good job they don't have to do 12 hour night shifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Looks like we will have to 'Park the Bus' and hit them on the break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 F*cking tired! Good job they don't have to do 12 hour night shifts. Been clear for a month or so that Tadic has been struggling so its probably the right call to take him out for a week or so. Of we get a better set of performances from him in the next 10 games he plays than the previous 10 it will have been a good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Pay me £40k a week and I guarantee you will never see me moan about being tired. You train for a few hours everyday and have to run around for 90 mins on a Saturday.....with the best facilities at your disposal,I cant get my head round this "burn out " that you hear all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 Pay me £40k a week and I guarantee you will never see me moan about being tired. You train for a few hours everyday and have to run around for 90 mins on a Saturday.....with the best facilities at your disposal,I cant get my head round this "burn out " that you hear all the time. it is because the dutch league is very weak and do they have a winter break? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 it is because the dutch league is very weak and do they have a winter break? It should never, ever be forgotten that Steve De Ridder was a star in the Dutch league. The intensity of the PL is what does for them, it's 95 minutes effort every time, there are no easy games where you can slack off and let it slide a bit and nothing changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 December, 2014 Share Posted 18 December, 2014 This game is pretty much over before it's started give the entire first team a rest and put out the development squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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