saintchrissy Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 I have never booed the team off in x number of years watching them I did toda . Refund please and now another 4 hour drive back from Yorkshire with nothing to show for it except a hole in my pocket
cellone Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 RK walking away from clough when he put his hand out to shake it, was poor IMO Got a bit tetchy through the game
monosaint Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 I have said all along that we need to aim for the 40 point mark and that we will be fighting for our Premier status. I have been consistently ridiculed and yet now those very same people are starting to say exactly what I had dared to say through the start of the season. Your comments add no value to any discussion. Now STFU or come out with some constructive comments other than I told you so. Jerk!
Saint_clark Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Just driving away. Worst performance since 08/09. Mane worst individual performance i've ever seen. Players knew they were dog**** from the way they came over to the fans, very abject and apologetic.
monosaint Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Some people get silly about losing to lower league opposition. We beat Man U in 1976 in the FA Cup Final FFS. It is written in the Football Bible that these things will happen and they frequently do. We should congratulate Seff Utd. and move on. I think we need to rest Mane. His error led to the Free Kick from which they scored. That would not have happened earlier in the season. Saturday we go in as underdogs now which I hope will suit us. Apart from VW being suspended getting back to full strength. Hey ho!!
solentstars Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 The better side won' date=' which is embarrassing when they're two divisions below. In addition to the injuries, we've now decimated our own team for Saturday with 3 silly suspensions and show now form or goalscoring possibilities. Incredible fall from grace and something we need to somehow snap out of quickly. Whether it's a loss form or something more fundamental behind the scenes, Ronnie needs to get it sorted.[/quote']i thought we looked unbalanced tonight but we just don,t have a bigger enough squad to cover injuries and rest players.has for some of our signings still need time to adjust to this league .bad days at the moment but its a rerun of last season. but we are 5 th and should have thrashed man utd last monday so thats the postives at the moment.
Dalek2003 Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 RK walking away from clough when he put his hand out to shake it, was poor IMO Shows it hurt. We have problems against Everton. You can only hope that somehow we get a lucky victory.
cellone Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 I have never booed the team off in x number of years watching them I did toda . Refund please and now another 4 hour drive back from Yorkshire with nothing to show for it except a hole in my pocket Will you pay them double if they win in future;)
Saint_Tony Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Except he is, and it's crazy to expect a 20 year old still to carry a team whose confidence is shot to pieces. Don't understand the hype with JWP. Far too lightweight and fuk all in terms of goals and assists for a supposed dead ball specialist. Comes across as a good guy, but sadly League One/ Championship level at best
ART Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Five days away up north and 3 games away. They show no togetherness in the games. Photos in the media of Koeman, brother, Sammy and the backroom team dining out with alcohol in view. Schneiderlin looked ready to leave and as I said earlier, don't expect anything from his return. Once under Atkins, once under Pochettino and now under Koeman. No coincidence!! Jack Cork has been out and missing each time we've struggled and fallen apart. Transfer window? More of the Manés, the Longs? Sorry Ronald, but no thank you. WE ARE DONE FOR! WE'VE BEEN FOUND OUT!! *** By the way. get those f* cking giant photos of Stevie G off this forum. Who could ever think to post giant photos of Stevie G on our forum, our shrine.
Saint_clark Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Twitter blowing up with reports of fights and riots from our folk. All we need. Walked right past this. United fans giving a lot of abuse and Saints giving it back, escalated from there. Both sides to blame. Why cant people do what i did - shrug it off and walk on?
Monk Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 My points on tonight: - Tonight was a case of Koeman and co not doing their homework and most noticeably not having a game plan. - Took the Burnley squad and thought that would 'do a job'. - Only naming six subs is lazy in my PROFESSIONAL opinion, backroom should have been aware of any potential pull outs and called up additional personnel. - I do not like Clough one bit but for Koeman not to shake his hand rings of a bad loser. - Mane at one point lost possession of the ball and chose to lay down on the floor, whilst the RB dribbled past him. - Clyne, Bertrand, JWP - off the pace (fatigue?) - Never understood what Lloyd Isgrove offer's as a winger. - Mayuka is up there with Peter Madsen, Kleber Chala, and Tommy Forecast - Superb display from Fraser tonight. All in all, I'm now very worried whats around the corner for us as a team. Saw glimpses of the dark days again tonight but losing to a League One side was never going to be smelling of roses. January will define our season.
Graffito Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Okay fair enough - it is only my opinion. I am genuinely interested in your view on this - before this game I was finding it hard to see too many positives, now I sort of can't see any. I listened to a radio commentary. It sounded like an abysmal performance. Up to tonight performances have been good and I've enjoyed the season. Tonight I'm disappointed but I expect to see an improved performance on Saturday and I'll be right behind the team and the manager as always.
Saints foreva Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Just driving away. Worst performance since 08/09. Mane worst individual performance i've ever seen. Players knew they were dog**** from the way they came over to the fans, very abject and apologetic. How did the fans react?
SuperMikey Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Yes, don't understand the hype. Far too lightweight and fuk all in terms of goals and assists for a supposed dead ball specialist. Comes across as a good guy, but sadly League One/ Championship level at best Don't forget he's just come back from a pretty lengthy lay-off. We've seen him score goals and provide assists for Saints & England youth for years. Not the finished product by any means, but give the lad a break..
Saints foreva Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 My points on tonight: - Tonight was a case of Koeman and co not doing their homework and most noticeably not having a game plan. - Took the Burnley squad and thought that would 'do a job'. - Only naming six subs is lazy in my PROFESSIONAL opinion, backroom should have been aware of any potential pull outs and called up additional personnel. - I do not like Clough one bit but for Koeman not to shake his hand rings of a bad loser. - Mane at one point lost possession of the ball and chose to lay down on the floor, whilst the RB dribbled past him. - Clyne, Bertrand, JWP - off the pace (fatigue?) - Never understood what Lloyd Isgrove offer's as a winger. - Mayuka is up there with Peter Madsen, Kleber Chala, and Tommy Forecast - Superb display from Fraser tonight. All in all, I'm now very worried whats around the corner for us as a team. Saw glimpses of the dark days again tonight but losing to a League One side was never going to be smelling of roses. January will define our season. That will be overlooked because he made the howler that lead to the goal.
trousers Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport #saintsfc Koeman confirmed he didn't shake hands with Nigel Clough, quoting a lack of respect
CanadaSaint Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 I mentioned it in an earlier post but I'll ask it more directly here. I'm not looking to get attacked, just interested in sensible input because, like everyone else, I'm at a loss to explain the sudden decline in so many areas - including morale. Does anyone else get the impression that Morgan has checked out, with the January window approaching?
Saint_clark Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 How did the fans react? Mixed, but lots more boos than applause. A lot just chose to turn their backs and walk away.
Jackie@home Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 If Mane was bought off the back of that "black box " b0llocks who is up for breaking into staplewood and smashing the fecking thing up. Too right! If Spurs wanted Mitchell, they are welcome to him, if this is the dross it turns out.
Batman Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 we are just gifting goals away. One against united, Burnley and tonight. Throw in villa away in that too Luckily, away to villa, clyne hit a belter to grab us a point you can tell confidence is going as the performances as getting worse. and we are looking less and less like scoring...... ffs
Plumstead_Saint Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 It sounded like an abysmal performance. Up to tonight performances have been good and I've enjoyed the season. Tonight I'm disappointed but I expect to see an improved performance on Saturday and I'll be right behind the team and the manager as always. This.
Norm Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Can't understand why the moderators tolerate that Dalek imbecile. If there ain't a rule against him make one. I rarely agree with him but he has as much right to post as you and I have. Don't like his posts, block him.
solentstars Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 No one disagree's about Long, our moneyball team desperately wanted him and overpaid for him based on what he provides. Mane was an unknown and the first 4 games was pretty decent. I think someone here summed it up the best as his team mates don't know what he is going to do so its impacting what runs they do etc and I would say more often than not his touch is not there. Gutting we've lost 5 on the spin, of those only 1 was outplayed, the more upsetting thing is the lack of goals or the attempts required to score. Tadic/Mane/Long - would love to see their mins/shots/goals ratio, they just aren't doing it the last 2 months. We can't rely on Morgan or Vic to score and has Steve Davis/JWP prowse scored this season ?, we need a top of the diamond who runs at defences, see's runs, has close control and can score. Obviously the established names cost a lot so who are the alternatives or upcoming 10's ?think your right there ,mane looked a handful when he first arrived and has talent especially how he tore arsenal apart when we one 2-1 at highbury and tadic was outstanding but both seem to have a loss of form.long has always worked hard but does not score enough goals.
BallBoy Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Some of the comments on here are just hysterical. It was a very poor performance but the team selection was more or less forced upon Koeman. It is simply that we do not have sufficient depth to compete when we have a few out. Nevertheless, this team should have won. Sheffield had their own problems and were there for the taking. The players let Koeman and the fans down tonight. Calls for Koeman to go are fascile.
Dalek2003 Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Five days away up north and 3 games away. They show no togetherness in the games. Photos in the media of Koeman, brother, Sammy and the backroom team dining out with alcohol in view. Schneiderlin looked ready to leave and as I said earlier, don't expect anything from his return. Once under Atkins, once under Pochettino and now under Koeman. No coincidence!! Jack Cork has been out and missing each time we've struggled and fallen apart. Transfer window? More of the Manés, the Longs? Sorry Ronald, but no thank you. WE ARE DONE FOR! WE'VE BEEN FOUND OUT!! *** By the way. get those f* cking giant photos of Stevie G off this forum. Who could ever think to post giant photos of Stevie G on our forum, our shrine. But what I want to know , is how far will we fall ?
influx Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 People slagging off JWP ffs. His first full game back. What a bunch of absolute clueless idiots Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Saint_clark Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport #saintsfc Koeman confirmed he didn't shake hands with Nigel Clough, quoting a lack of respect Lack of respect for clough or because clough showed a lack of respect earlier?
Lighthouse Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 *** By the way. get those f* cking giant photos of Stevie G off this forum. Who could ever think to post giant photos of Stevie G on our forum, our shrine. To be fair, he does run this website.
Hodgey Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 That was awful, was hoping for better but feared without Pelle and Tadic we would have nothing going forwards. I've got some other questions though. How many chances is Mayuka going to get (he isn't anywhere near good enough and never will be), and how few Reed. This cannot be good for Reeds confidence - in essence RK is saying that no matter how badly people play, or how many injuries I have in your position, you will not play (but I'll name you as sub). Just doesn't strike me as good management There is a good player in there somewhere with Mane - but he needs to knuckle down, cut out the nonsense and use his pace and skill as part of a team. Schneiderlin worried me today - I think he wants out again and will not wait until May to join Poch. Agree with other posters - worst game I have seen from both Bertrand and Clyne (although Bertrand should never have started left mid, did nothing and never really recovered when pushed to LB).
trousers Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Lack of respect for clough or because clough showed a lack of respect earlier? The latter, I assume
Saints foreva Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Lack of respect for clough or because clough showed a lack of respect earlier? He was in the fourth officials ear trying to get Mane sent off and done the same with Schneiderlin later in the game I think. To be fair to him he did have a point with both of them.
Batman Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 according to the BBC, we had 1 shot on target the whole game
saint-crinny Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Biggest point is the lack of depth. We had it last season too - first 11 is very good, beyond that is pretty poor and we can't cope if more than one of our first choice is missing. No surprise after the summer we had, but really frustrating over the course of these games, in which we have got progressively worse and worse and starting making costly individual errors. Unfortunately, that surely won't change against Everton. Watching them last night, and with the four in midfield that we are going to be missing, Ross Barkley is going to cause us all sorts of problems.
Convict Colony Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 But what I want to know , is how far will we fall ? you know already 17th mate hahahaha
Halo Stickman Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Does anyone else get the impression that Morgan has checked out, with the January window approaching? I thought he was hurting, along with the rest of us, at our abject performance; but I think recent results, especially tonight’s, will have done nothing to persuade him to stay – quite the opposite, sadly.
CB Fry Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 We were dreadful today, truly awful, but I know that Koeman will be fuming and I know we gave the cup a decent crack. Sheff Utd deserved it, well done to them.
cellone Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 I think there will be a few word's between the team tonight and tomorrow.
Andy Durman Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Thank god I went and did something else tonight, rather than be subjected to this. The team is tired. The squad is too small. The fans need to be reimbursed. Very sad night for Southampton. The wheels have come off. Honeymoon period is over. Now we'll see how good Koeman is!
Asaint4ever Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Koeman is to blame! And I said it in the Match post, the more he plays mane the more I lose respect for koeman. Night
Saint_clark Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Why were there only 6 on the bench by the way? Did someone get injured in warm up?
David Strover Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 I listened to a radio commentary. It sounded like an abysmal performance. Up to tonight performances have been good and I've enjoyed the season. Tonight I'm disappointed but I expect to see an improved performance on Saturday and I'll be right behind the team and the manager as always. I tried to stream it - luckily for me it was so bad it wasn't worth watching but from what little I could see the final result was already in full view. Perhaps the performance will be better Saturday but you have to bear in mind that Vic and Morgan are unavailable, alongside Gardoes, probably Davies, definitely Cork and Forster for all his saves seems to have a goal-causing error in him every game - add into the mix Mayuka, Mané and Isgrove don't appear to be having an effect on the wing and Tadic's form has fallen off dramatically and then also consider Pelle is our only goal-threat, because Long plays scores a goal every ten games. I don't see any optimism at the moment - hopefully Reed might finally get some game time. Everton are tough and they won't take any prisoners. We are in for a very, very tough Christmas.
Convict Colony Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 People slagging off JWP ffs. His first full game back. What a bunch of absolute clueless idiots Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I don't think it was purely on this game, just how he plays and contributes in our overall team. I think the commentator said it best in that he has scored 1 goal in his career for us and that was in his 2nd game, he has over 60 games for us. The WBA goalie has more premier league goals than JWP.
Roger Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Why are people so worried a out losing to Everton. That was out only chance if winning something and we blew it. You don't win anything for finishing sixth or seventh . We need to win something our trophy cabinet is a laughing stock.
CB Saint Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 I don't think it was purely on this game, just how he plays and contributes in our overall team. I think the commentator said it best in that he has scored 1 goal in his career for us and that was in his 2nd game, he has over 60 games for us. The WBA goalie has as many goals as JWP.[/QUOTE] that made me chuckle - gallows humour has set in
hypochondriac Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Just in the car home. Embarrassing and it's going to be a long journey back. Real problems with our attacking play and we need to pick up a point soon or this run will continue.
MarkSFC Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Well that result and performance is incredibly depressing but the glaringly obvious truth all season is that when our best 12-13 players are fit and on top form we have a very goo side indeed. The problem is though that when you have the depth of squad we have 16-17 plus kids, it is virtually impossible to maintain peak form, fitness and avoid suspensions. Take Arsenal at the weekend, i think they had 8 or 9 players out, most of whom would get in most teams in the league and still had a strong result. We are at least 5-6 players (plus JRod!)short of being genuinely top 6, but with the start we have had and 2-3 decent signings in Jan (and JRod) we could just do it as others like West Ham will inevitably suffer with injuries and suspensions at some point. A depressing night no doubt but just the result of squad depth, injuries and suspensions which in themselves cause dips in peak performance. The best teams are not the best teambecause they have the best 11...they are the best because they can get 11 players in top form out on the pitch every week, near as damn it.
madruss Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Surely the meltdown can start now! God knows we've been waiting long enough
Batman Posted 16 December, 2014 Posted 16 December, 2014 Why are people so worried a out losing to Everton. That was out only chance if winning something and we blew it. You don't win anything for finishing sixth or seventh . We need to win something our trophy cabinet is a laughing stock. ronald could have taken this cup seriously Leaving Toby on the bench. A La Liga winnder and runner up in the Champions league last season. Who has been our best defender!!!!!!!
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