bazza Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Im from Norn Irn. Supported since 1993. Does that make me a plastic? I'm an Ards fan. I 'adopted' Saints when I moved here and have been a season ticket holder for 10 years. I'm definitely a plastic but my wee lad's a born and bred Saint! No it makes you Irish Northern Irish actually! (But we digress.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 (edited) I refer you to the "walking" post I made above. I'm fairly sure if it was just me driving in, parking and driving back that I'd be able to say the same - the point is that lots of people have lots of reasons that they can't do that, and some of them evidently choose to nick off early rather than get stuck in it all. Someone said that this time in the Prem he/she thought more people leave before the end now than last time we were in the Prem. I wonder if this is so, but there will be no stats. About leaving early during evening matches to catch trains/ get up early for work and other worthy reasons, I'm sure just as many leave early during afternoon matches. Edited 10 December, 2014 by eelpie sp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFCRedandWhite Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 People who leave early in Kingsland North are usually met with a few songs aimed at them, fair to say most fans are happy about others leaving early... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I'm an Ards fan. I 'adopted' Saints when I moved here and have been a season ticket holder for 10 years. I'm definitely a plastic but my wee lad's a born and bred Saint! Northern Irish actually! (But we digress.) Dunno about that - it's all Irish to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Those who only go when we play the big boys really annoy me... I believe we have a lot of Scouse fans in Southampton? Last season home game against Liverpool was pathetic, the number of people whipping out their phones just to take a picture of Gerrard taking a corner in the Chapel End was pitiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Those who only go when we play the big boys really annoy me... I believe we have a lot of Scouse fans in Southampton? Last season home game against Liverpool was pathetic, the number of people whipping out their phones just to take a picture of Gerrard taking a corner in the Chapel End was pitiful. I know a good few, most of them in the 35-45 age bracket which demonstrates how impressionable they were growing up. I blame the parents, if they were taken to the Dell as kids they would more than likely have supported Saints instead of whichever team happened to be the best when they were 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Someone said that this time in the Prem he/she thought more people leave before the end now than last time we were in the Prem. I wonder if this is so, but there will be no stats. About leaving early during evening matches to catch trains/ get up early for work and other worthy reasons, I'm sure just as many leave early during afternoon matches. Definitely more leaving early now than last time we were in the Prem, ridiculous the amount that walk out regardless of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Definitely more leaving early now than last time we were in the Prem, ridiculous the amount that walk out regardless of the score. Agreed. The 2 Dads and 2 kids behind us have left on 87 minutes every single game since the start of last season. Bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I'm sure plenty are in the same boat as The9 - just nowhere near the full proportion of those that dash out early. Regardless of the other people's motivations or excuses, their leaving early demonstrates anything but strong support and is arguably a waste of money. Maybe that's all just a succinct reflection of where modern football is at. Fleeting, disposable and inefficient. So what is your view on this: "You could for example consider the fans that arrive 5min after kick off, head down 5min early for half time, and get back to the stands after the second half kicks off for your ire? Where is your rage towards these people? Do they not also have a negative effect on the players who see them streaming for the exits after only 40min?!?!?!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 (edited) We are southampton, we leave when we want and all that. People too quick to judge without all the facts. For one, I know quite a few London-based codgers leave before final whistle to get the 10pm train -a walk that can be particularly brutal if injury time has piled up and the car park is closed. Yet their attendance record would put a lot of the sanctimonious ****s on here to shame. Edited 10 December, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Did anyone see the large group of people in the Itchen North at the end of the game with their camera phones as the Utd team came towards their support. I have never seen anything like that before at SMS, DISGRACEFUL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Did anyone see the large group of people in the Itchen North at the end of the game with their camera phones as the Utd team came towards their support. I have never seen anything like that before at SMS, DISGRACEFUL United, Chelsea and Arsenal (City strangely not quite at the same level as the others) are basically teams for tourists, and so they drag tourists along to wherever they go. Completely out of any true character. Chelsea probably the worse case in terms of visibility as they were no better than that nice backyard team of poshist, richest, most central London with a fairly small West London support. United's transformation probably the most depressing for the footballing world. The decadence of the atmosphere at Old Trafford ought to be a case study. The true example of how wrong you can get things when going global (add financial aspects in there too!). Arsenal just happened to move to a stadium that was as big as they needed, but bigger than their core support. Nothing much has changed there to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Did anyone see the large group of people in the Itchen North at the end of the game with their camera phones as the Utd team came towards their support. I have never seen anything like that before at SMS, DISGRACEFUL There were quite a few half and half scarves in that area too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 We are southampton, we leave when we want and all that. People too quick to judge without all the facts. For one, I know quite a few London-based codgers leave before final whistle to get the 10pm train -a walk that can be particularly brutal if injury time has piled up and the car park is closed. Yet their attendance record would put a lot of the sanctimonious ****s on here to shame. We left during time added and actually had to run most of the way to the station to catch the 10pm. A further tube and train ride later I got in about 1am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 We are southampton, we leave when we want and all that. People too quick to judge without all the facts. For one, I know quite a few London-based codgers leave before final whistle to get the 10pm train -a walk that can be particularly brutal if injury time has piled up and the car park is closed. Yet their attendance record would put a lot of the sanctimonious ****s on here to shame. that applies to night games, but there are still ridiculous numbers of early leavers on Saturday 3pm games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 that applies to night games, but there are still ridiculous numbers of early leavers on Saturday 3pm games. They seem to factor in all the costs in time/money/convenience/inconvenience and forget the most important element...a FULL game of football. How ironic is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Whilst the early leavers bother me in certain circumstances, would it not be fair to say that as those people, like us, have paid their money, that they should be able to do whatever the hell they want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Did anyone see the large group of people in the Itchen North at the end of the game with their camera phones as the Utd team came towards their support. I have never seen anything like that before at SMS, DISGRACEFUL Nauseating. United plastics in our home terrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 So anyone who does not support their local team is a "plastic"? We should support our local team? I sort of agree but then have to wonder why it is that Pompey fans get so much stick for being Pompey fans. It goes far beyond sporting rivalry. Some Saints fans seriously question their intelligence, their parentage and their honesty. We belittle their efforts to rebuild a club shockingly done over by people who had no connection with the city. Don't get me wrong, I love watching Portsmouth struggle and enjoy it when they lose. I wish them no success beyond survival. But they should survive because, if people should support their local club, then this applies in Portsmouth as much as in Southampton. Would we really prefer to see kids in Portsmouth following Chelsea, Utd or City than following their local team? We need local teams to feel to measure against and feel superior to. Given the plight of Pompey it's surely quite an admirable thing to stick with them rather than go glory hunting. And before anyone says you see a lot of shirts of other clubs in Portsmouth, you do in Southampton as well. Yes, I'm all for sporting rivalry and banter. But, in the end, most Pompey fans are ordinary people like us (apart from the pr*ck with the bell, obviously) supporting their local team, like we say they should. They had no more control over the way their club was run than we did during the Lowe era (or, indeed, we have now - we just like the way it is run now). The same goes for fans of, random examples, Brighton, Millwall, Sunderland and QPR. Some people take the rivalry way too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 I think I'm a plastic. I've been to every home game this season, but haven't yet developed the super-fan mentality that says I have to mock everyone that doesn't. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 So what is your view on this: "You could for example consider the fans that arrive 5min after kick off, head down 5min early for half time, and get back to the stands after the second half kicks off for your ire? Where is your rage towards these people? Do they not also have a negative effect on the players who see them streaming for the exits after only 40min?!?!?!" I could (and do). Didn't see that quote until you specifically highlighted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.JonB Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 I always leave 5 minutes before the end, but I sing more during the game than the guy in front who stays to the end. Who's more plastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Back in the championship when I had an ST a bunch of blokes moved from the Northam to the Chapel next to us (because it was cheaper) great bunch of guys very funny.....however they would always turn up late (finishing the pre game pint) get up early at half time (to be at the front of the beer queue), get back to their seats late for the second half (finishing off the half time beer) and then duck out 10 minutes early to get down the pub before the crowds. Nice blokes reckon they only saw 2/3rds of any game that season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpanmatt Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 I don't agree with this whole 'I'm better than you' rubbish, or 'you're a plastic because' talk, but I will never ever understand why anyone would want to miss any of the game, whether it be to fit in a couple of pints at half time or to 'beat the traffic'. If you care about how the team does at all surely you couldn't tear yourself away until the whistle has gone?! I'll never, ever understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 We left during time added and actually had to run most of the way to the station to catch the 10pm. A further tube and train ride later I got in about 1am. You need to man up Graffito, didn'y you hear eelpie.... he's from London as well and he has no tolerance for anyone leaving before the final whistle.... He's a true and hard saints fan after all.... Anyone who leaves early should just not attend, lest they demoralise the players for the final 3 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 I always leave 5 minutes before the end, but I sing more during the game than the guy in front who stays to the end. Who's more plastic? Can't you two just breed then we could have at least one proper fan at sometime in the future.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrimsaint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Me, chimney corner fan. Uni in the early ninties. First game. The Dell v villa fashanu in his red boots ( very odd at the time) in the cup. Amazing atmosphere never looked back. Exiled in Liverpool now go to most north west games and haven't been to st marys in ten years. Saint now till I die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.JonB Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Can't you two just breed then we could have at least one proper fan at sometime in the future.... I'll suggest it at the Everton game. Don't blame me if our kid doesn't sing much and leaves 5 minutes before the end though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Can't you two just breed then we could have at least one proper fan at sometime in the future.... That's what the 5 minutes are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 So anyone who does not support their local team is a "plastic"? We should support our local team? I sort of agree but then have to wonder why it is that Pompey fans get so much stick for being Pompey fans. It goes far beyond sporting rivalry. Some Saints fans seriously question their intelligence, their parentage and their honesty. We belittle their efforts to rebuild a club shockingly done over by people who had no connection with the city. Don't get me wrong, I love watching Portsmouth struggle and enjoy it when they lose. I wish them no success beyond survival. But they should survive because, if people should support their local club, then this applies in Portsmouth as much as in Southampton. Would we really prefer to see kids in Portsmouth following Chelsea, Utd or City than following their local team? We need local teams to feel to measure against and feel superior to. Given the plight of Pompey it's surely quite an admirable thing to stick with them rather than go glory hunting. And before anyone says you see a lot of shirts of other clubs in Portsmouth, you do in Southampton as well. Yes, I'm all for sporting rivalry and banter. But, in the end, most Pompey fans are ordinary people like us (apart from the pr*ck with the bell, obviously) supporting their local team, like we say they should. They had no more control over the way their club was run than we did during the Lowe era (or, indeed, we have now - we just like the way it is run now). The same goes for fans of, random examples, Brighton, Millwall, Sunderland and QPR. Some people take the rivalry way too seriously. They are not plastic, they are deluded. I'm sure rallyboy will gladly fill in the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 I'll suggest it at the Everton game. Don't blame me if our kid doesn't sing much and leaves 5 minutes before the end though... Have three, then statistically one should be ok, the others you can point in the direction of old trafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 Not sure why so many are getting upset by the term "Plastic": http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Plastic%20Fan I don't think we've ever had enough success to label our fans plastic. But I don't recall Chelski or Man City having as many fans before they became big clubs. My definition of plastic has always been Fiona Phillips for dumping the club you always supported because they dropped from the top flight, to support a successful one....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 How do the people that leave early get the other results ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 If people from SO post codes Southampton Eastleigh Winchester etc dont support Saints thats fine, but to diss us annoys me, if you dont like us **** off to Midlands or Manchester etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 13 December, 2014 Share Posted 13 December, 2014 I always leave 5 minutes before the end, but I sing more during the game than the guy in front who stays to the end. Who's more plastic? Your singing is twelfth man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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