TheCholulaKid Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 How does it look to our players when they see mass exits of their own supporters before the end of the game. You wouldn't expect them to give up until the final whistle, would you? We've drawn or won many games in the past close to extra time because of that last supreme effort by our team. I imagine they don't give a ****. I'd also be a bit worried if in the dying minutes of a game they were chasing they spent time looking around the ground and wondering why they're a few empty seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I always park at least a mile and a half away at a secret location and walk to the ground and back. Never any problem with traffic. What is there to rush home for? X-factor? Strictly ? A session with the wife? It is all in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I imagine they don't give a ****. I'd also be a bit worried if in the dying minutes of a game they were chasing they spent time looking around the ground and wondering why they're a few empty seats. Naturally. But movements towards the exits cannot be missed on anyone's peripheral vision. Better for the final atmosphere if everyone was in the ground shouting for the team till the end, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrimsaint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Im from Norn Irn. Supported since 1993. Does that make me a plastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 You don't come under the definition of what a plastic fan is in my opinion. You moved away from this area, but still follow the team, despite the distance. As far as I'm concerned, being a plastic fan means that you support a team for no other reason than than they have been consistently successful over a sustained period of time. So if somebody claims to be a Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and latterly Man City fan, and they have absolutely no connections with those cities, then they qualify as plastics. Exactly. This would be my definition as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I always park at least a mile and a half away at a secret location and walk to the ground and back. Never any problem with traffic. What is there to rush home for? X-factor? Strictly ? A session with the wife? It is all in the head. I often wonder if these people leave early from the cinema or theatre. If you have to get a last train or IOW ferry then fair enough but, if we all left early, who'd applaud the team off at the end? Strangely enough, at the Sunderland game when the result was in the bag quite early, it seemed to me that more people stayed to the end than is normally the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Talking of "Plastics" hearing people sing "Where were you when we were sh*t" is one of my biggest pet hates, I really don't understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Im from Norn Irn. Supported since 1993. Does that make me a plastic? No it makes you Irish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrimsaint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Damn. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 If Plastics exist, presumably there must also be the polar opposites, or 'Granites' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I'm sure everybody who leaves early will be able to justify it, but I don't buy it. Maybe the odd one or two need to get the last train, but most routes will have trains running late enough to stay till the end and still stroll to the station to catch one home. Avoiding the traffic, WTF is that about? Is getting home half an hour early more important than watching the last few minutes of your team trying to equalise against the biggest club in the country. Why not just stay in and watch it on TV and avoid all the traffic? Although I don't do it, I maybe understand if we're winning easily or losing by a few. But anybody who walks out with the game still in the balance, can't be that passionate about the club or football in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Talking of "Plastics" hearing people sing "Where were you when we were sh*t" is one of my biggest pet hates, I really don't understand it. I don't recall anybody particularly singing "where were you when we were sh*t?" "Where were you when you were sh*t?" yes, particularly concerning the likes of Manchester City, who similarly to us had a tumble down the divisions before they rose again. And having the wealthiest owners in British football, they have attracted more than their fair share of plastics, although to be fair to them, like us they did keep a decent hardcore of fans through thick and thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 The amount of people leaving our games early is ridiculous. Even the Sunderland game a fair few people were streaming out. God knows what the players think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbury Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I don't recall anybody particularly singing "where were you when we were sh*t?" "Where were you when you were sh*t?" yes, particularly concerning the likes of Manchester City, who similarly to us had a tumble down the divisions before they rose again. And having the wealthiest owners in British football, they have attracted more than their fair share of plastics, although to be fair to them, like us they did keep a decent hardcore of fans through thick and thin. Think City's 3rd tier attendances were way better than ours, or anybody else's. Most Lancs/Mancs I knew were city fans, or else teams like Oldham or Bury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 The amount of people leaving our games early is ridiculous. Even the Sunderland game a fair few people were streaming out. God knows what the players think. I think that it has got worse compared to our last PL years but it is partly self-fulfilling. By which I mean, as the first people start heading out early (lets be generous and say they have genuine reasons - elderly folk, last trains, IOW ferry etc) then others see them as the stairwells clog up and think they have to go too. Partly because they think they will be even more delayed and partly because the seats near to them empty out, feel a bit isolated as they look around and decide to head out too. Not an excuse at all, but if everyone stayed put bar the elderly or those with little kids, it would be easier for all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 If I drive I leave at 87 minutes on the dot , nothing is worth sitting in that traffic ! But it sends out the wrong messages, TV invariably picks up the crowd movements and can't resist the chance to mutter on about "It's clear what Saints fans think of this... etc" Also the players can sense this as well and at a time when they're giving their all and knackered of course they are bound to think "Well if those bar stewards don't give a tos.s why should we!" I drive, I stay to the end. I'll still be there when the last ember dies and the final shot has echoed off the roofs. If you're Red & White then say for the night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 (edited) There are loads of " plastics " in Sweden, basically because the level of club football is so poor that only the most diehard fan would admit his allegiance to the club. A while back, I worked with a group of avid football fans (all nice guys).Several come from other continents, supported Chelsea and Arsenal yet had never set foot in the UK.,let alone been to a match. There is an (older) generation here, who watched Match of the Day games (in the 1970's) transmitted live on TV. They became "adopted fans" of teams like Wolves, Notts.Forest, Stoke and Sunderland. We now have a cable network that shows 1 or 2 Prem.games every match day and so everyone is well updated on the current situation in the Prem. and they bet on games every week. The same people who kidded me when Saints were at the bottom end of L1,.... now raise eyebrows, if we meet and reluctantly admit ...." didn't they do well ". I was born in So'ton, lived a mile from The Dell and watched games for nearly 30 years (before moving here)...and I still get asked. Why do you support a team that doesn't get to play in Europe? Edited 10 December, 2014 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 There are different grades of plastics Those who have no connection to the club other that they are successful Those who never go to home games Those who go to the odd game and wangle their way into the cup finals Those who go to home games and sit in the Chapel Those who go to home games but leave early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I'm sure everybody who leaves early will be able to justify it, but I don't buy it. Maybe the odd one or two need to get the last train, but most routes will have trains running late enough to stay till the end and still stroll to the station to catch one home. Avoiding the traffic, WTF is that about? Is getting home half an hour early more important than watching the last few minutes of your team trying to equalise against the biggest club in the country. Why not just stay in and watch it on TV and avoid all the traffic? Although I don't do it, I maybe understand if we're winning easily or losing by a few. But anybody who walks out with the game still in the balance, can't be that passionate about the club or football in general. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrimsaint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 There are different grades of plastics Those who have no connection to the club other that they are successful Those who never go to home games Those who go to the odd game and wangle their way into the cup finals Those who go to home games and sit in the Chapel Those who go to home games but leave early Apart from the first one im all those and from Norn Irn. Can I be the biggest plastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpanmatt Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 If I drive I leave at 87 minutes on the dot , nothing is worth sitting in that traffic ! Crazy. I'll never understand this. I find it embarrassing when our own fans are pouring out of the stadium before full time, although I get a slightly smug feeling when I get back to the Hi-Q car park to find that I've blocked one of the early leavers in and they've had to wait anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I travel from London, sometimes by car, sometimes by train. I support Saints till the end, win or lose. And did so when we were in League 1. How does it look to our players when they see mass exits of their own supporters before the end of the game. You wouldn't expect them to give up until the final whistle, would you? We've drawn or won many games in the past close to extra time because of that last supreme effort by our team. Good for you bud, I've heard London is a great place to live and very easy to get back to as well... I come from Bristol myself and I also stay to the end. In addition, and like most of the regular saints fans out there, I can also say I've been with the club since relegation from the prem (and long before), I've been through all the ****e and lucky enough to enjoy all the good as well such as the Norwich 2-2 penalties and Waigo's adopted child! Now... I don't leave early nor did I take offence on behalf of myself... what I don't like is people who have no consideration for their fellow saints fans and who then crawl out of the woodwork after a couple of unlucky defeats to attack our own fans, especially over something so trivial... What should politely be considered is that we have young families, elderly fans, or just your bog standard bloke in his 20-30's who rely on hourly buses or trains to get back home, or those that just have to rush off and can't afford to sit in the massive traffic to get back on the motorway... They make the effort to get into Southampton, (committing more time and money than most) but still just have to shoot off a few minutes early... it's there money and prerogative after all and is perfectly reasonable. You could for example consider the fans that arrive 5min after kick off, head down 5min early for half time, and get back to the stands after the second half kicks off for your ire? Where is your rage towards these people? Do they not also have a negative effect on the players who see them streaming for the exits after only 40min?!?!?! Simply put, it seems like we lose a few games and there are saints fans attacking other fans for any reason they see fit, rather than simply getting together behind the team and pushing them onwards. You may disagree, but if your want to come across as the guy that goes around criticising other fans for making an effort to attend a game then that's your choice... Maybe we should just ban them all from leaving before the final whistle, I'm sure the team would be equally cheered on by empty seats when they all stop attending... Or do you think we'd sell out every game and that there are legions of desperate saints fans waiting to take their places? Also, if the players are more worried about what a couple of hundred fans walking down the stairs in the 90th minute than pushing for an equaliser then there is something seriously wrong with their commitment and willingness to fight for the shirt. Fortunately this isn't the case. To each his own bud, but I'd tone down the anti other saints fan's rhetoric if it were me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 There are different grades of plastics Those who have no connection to the club other that they are successful Those who never go to home games Those who go to the odd game and wangle their way into the cup finals Those who go to home games and sit in the Chapel Those who go to home games but leave early There are various grades of reasoning errors in your post. I agree with number one entirely and they are the worst grade of plastic fan, worthy of the most withering contempt. Those who never go to home games might have a perfectly reasonable excuse and the further the distance away from Southampton, or the greater the financial hardship, the more validity applies to the excuse. Those who go to the occasional game and wish to wangle tickets to a Cup Final, will invariably find themselves way down the priority list when the tickets go on sale, won't they? The Chapel stand thing is just plain ridiculous, especially when considering that the family section is there, where the next generation of fans is being indoctrinated into the faith. The leaving before the final whistle is dependent on circumstances before judgement is made. The family in front of me had to leave the United match to catch the ferry back to the Isle of Wight. But if anybody chooses to leave early, for whatever reason, that is up to them. Plasticity hardly enters into it, especially when those leaving are long-standing ST holders or travel regularly from distant destinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian the Red Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 There are different grades of plastics Those who have no connection to the club other that they are successful Those who never go to home games Those who go to the odd game and wangle their way into the cup finals Those who go to home games and sit in the Chapel Those who go to home games but leave early You forgot those so called fans who only go and see Saints when they are either doing well or playing one of the "big" clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 There are various grades of reasoning errors in your post. I agree with number one entirely and they are the worst grade of plastic fan, worthy of the most withering contempt. Those who never go to home games might have a perfectly reasonable excuse and the further the distance away from Southampton, or the greater the financial hardship, the more validity applies to the excuse. Those who go to the occasional game and wish to wangle tickets to a Cup Final, will invariably find themselves way down the priority list when the tickets go on sale, won't they? The Chapel stand thing is just plain ridiculous, especially when considering that the family section is there, where the next generation of fans is being indoctrinated into the faith. The leaving before the final whistle is dependent on circumstances before judgement is made. The family in front of me had to leave the United match to catch the ferry back to the Isle of Wight. But if anybody chooses to leave early, for whatever reason, that is up to them. Plasticity hardly enters into it, especially when those leaving are long-standing ST holders or travel regularly from distant destinations. Plastic apologist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Ah, it's been a while since we had a "I'm a better fan than you thread". Saint Charlie started a few of these within a couple of weeks of each other last season, all good fun. Mostly the same stuff. I'm from London, have little connection to the city other than being taken to the Dell & St Mary's as a kid (more than any other teams stadium anyway), and don't get to as may games as I would like. Worst fan ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Crazy. I'll never understand this. I find it embarrassing when our own fans are pouring out of the stadium before full time, although I get a slightly smug feeling when I get back to the Hi-Q car park to find that I've blocked one of the early leavers in and they've had to wait anyway. Sorry but I have a job to get up for at silly o'clock in the morning I like to get home and have some sleep after an evening game hence why I drive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.JonB Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I thought this thread was about grown men (and women) born in Southampton who due to us not being successful enough chose to support one of the 'bigger' clubs? How can you take anyone like this serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 'beat the traffic' What a load of old b@11@x. We don't even leave bang on full time - waiting around to applaud the team - and we don't get caught in traffic. Never understood that excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I'm genuinely amazed how many people completely missed the point of my post and instead went all massively defensive, i think that says as much about them as it does the post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 There are different grades of plastics Those who have no connection to the club other that they are successful Those who never go to home games Those who go to the odd game and wangle their way into the cup finals Those who go to home games and sit in the Chapel Those who go to home games but leave early I don't believe that supporters leaving games early are plastics. I am not suggesting in any way that they are not true supporters. I just think it is sad that some get into a habit of leaving before the match has finished to be early in the homeward queue. I accept that sometimes there are good reasons for having to exit early, but mostly I doubt that there are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Sounds like bunch of girls arguing over who is biggest one direction fan! Not proper fan unless have at least five posters, badges ...!! Does it matter? Isn't it better to have more people going, even if not from city, not dead keen, worried about traffic etc? How can where people sit be a factor ffs?! Unless I have missed it grounds tend to have 4 sides they need to sell? I know people who never go but follow saints, or who have little interest but takes their children are they allowed to go?! Surely supporters are anyone who would reply 'saints' when asked who they support, and nothing else? Reading some on here, they don't fit in definitions of "fan" - fanatical about, biased towards. Many on here seem to be biased against us! Relishing anything negative, criticising players and performances - see more balanced judgements of our players and performances on other club's boards. There are some really insecure posters here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 There is a difference between us and them. They are a brand, we are not. Brands attract people from all over the world, while we rely more so on the locality. Saints supporters from outside of Southampton are still the minority. I remember a survey from when we were in the Prem before which indicated that we had one of the most widely geographically spread fanbases in the division. Probably as a result of the dearth of other decent teams in the south outside London, and the long spell in the top division prior to the 7-year blip. Loads in Winchester, Basingstoke, Salisbury, Dorset, Wiltshire etc., (and two in Newport). As far as "leaving early to beat the traffic", when I lived in South Wales and came to midweek matches I used to leave my seat at 90 minutes and slowly walk down the steps to the exit before pegging it on the final whistle, jumping in the car when completely out of breath and consequently getting halfway to Swindon in the time it would have taken me to get to the M3 if I'd left it another 5 minutes. This was brought home to me on Monday as we waited for full time, walked to the car in near enough the same spot I used to use, and then spent 50 minutes just getting to Hedge End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Good for you bud, I've heard London is a great place to live and very easy to get back to as well... I come from Bristol myself and I also stay to the end. In addition, and like most of the regular saints fans out there, I can also say I've been with the club since relegation from the prem (and long before), I've been through all the ****e and lucky enough to enjoy all the good as well such as the Norwich 2-2 penalties and Waigo's adopted child! Now... I don't leave early nor did I take offence on behalf of myself... what I don't like is people who have no consideration for their fellow saints fans and who then crawl out of the woodwork after a couple of unlucky defeats to attack our own fans, especially over something so trivial... What should politely be considered is that we have young families, elderly fans, or just your bog standard bloke in his 20-30's who rely on hourly buses or trains to get back home, or those that just have to rush off and can't afford to sit in the massive traffic to get back on the motorway... They make the effort to get into Southampton, (committing more time and money than most) but still just have to shoot off a few minutes early... it's there money and prerogative after all and is perfectly reasonable. You could for example consider the fans that arrive 5min after kick off, head down 5min early for half time, and get back to the stands after the second half kicks off for your ire? Where is your rage towards these people? Do they not also have a negative effect on the players who see them streaming for the exits after only 40min?!?!?! Simply put, it seems like we lose a few games and there are saints fans attacking other fans for any reason they see fit, rather than simply getting together behind the team and pushing them onwards. You may disagree, but if your want to come across as the guy that goes around criticising other fans for making an effort to attend a game then that's your choice... Maybe we should just ban them all from leaving before the final whistle, I'm sure the team would be equally cheered on by empty seats when they all stop attending... Or do you think we'd sell out every game and that there are legions of desperate saints fans waiting to take their places? Also, if the players are more worried about what a couple of hundred fans walking down the stairs in the 90th minute than pushing for an equaliser then there is something seriously wrong with their commitment and willingness to fight for the shirt. Fortunately this isn't the case. To each his own bud, but I'd tone down the anti other saints fan's rhetoric if it were me. Great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyboy Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Give the traffic discussion that always ensues with the 'why do people leave before the end' thing, I wonder if the Powers On High think that expanding St Mary's is the long term answer. Or if somewhere on the edge of town might one day make it back on to the agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 We don't even leave bang on full time - waiting around to applaud the team - and we don't get caught in traffic. Never understood that excuse. I can confirm, from 5 years of sitting in a pub on London Road post-match up until this season, that if you're not out of the area south of Inner Avenue by 10 minutes after the final whistle, you'll be there for at least half an hour. There was solid traffic on the Avenue and around London Road after every Saturday match until gone 6 and until 10:45pm midweek. We've also sat in traffic in the Northam estate after a 5pm finish until half 6 this season. Even so, I don't leave matches early. It's going to be fun working out a plan for a quick getaway on 20th so I can be in south Wales by 7pm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Give the traffic discussion that always ensues with the 'why do people leave before the end' thing, I wonder if the Powers On High think that expanding St Mary's is the long term answer. Or if somewhere on the edge of town might one day make it back on to the agenda. I'd be more hopeful that we got back the free bus tickets that the City Council insisted on until we got relegated from the Premier League and Lowe wangled getting out of it as another cost-cutting exercise when the crowds dropped below 27,000. The club were meant to be providing free buses and park and ride services as a prerequisite for having use of the stadium as part of the council's Green commitment, and even the renegotiated deal for the club to be free of that requirement was conditional on us not getting more than 10 x 27k crowds a season - which we clearly are. The traffic is a side-effect of not having those measures in place. Then again, the buses to Hedge End stop too early to be of any use anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Ah, it's been a while since we had a "I'm a better fan than you thread". I'm from London, have little connection to the city I'm from Coxford. I'm better than you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopintsnilnil Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I come from Brockenhurst. I've lived in Bristol, Manchester and for the last 30 years, London. I always stay to the final whistle. If you have a 2 hour plus drive in front of you anyway, just factor it in. Am I doing this right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I always park at least a mile and a half away at a secret location and walk to the ground and back. Never any problem with traffic. What is there to rush home for? X-factor? Strictly ? A session with the wife? It is all in the head. A mile and a half? Nice little stomp if you're not with someone who can't walk that far without discomfort. We've got someone with a load of metal in their spine, someone with arthritis and (currently) a broken leggie in our lot. Two of us have knackered knees too, and there's one with really short legs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I come from Brockenhurst. I've lived in Bristol, Manchester and for the last 30 years, London. I always stay to the final whistle. If you have a 2 hour plus drive in front of you anyway, just factor it in. Am I doing this right? I think my argument would be that if you're going to a midweek match and it's going to take a couple of hours to get home, then that's about midnight you'll be getting in, and the last thing you want to do is add to that time if you've got to get up for work the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 This was brought home to me on Monday as we waited for full time, walked to the car in near enough the same spot I used to use, and then spent 50 minutes just getting to Hedge End. I live in Hedge End, yet it never takes more than 15 minutes to get home (after getting back to the car obviously). I've never, ever left before the final whistle either. Must be so many people getting stuck in traffic for no good reason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I live in Hedge End, yet it never takes more than 15 minutes to get home (after getting back to the car obviously). I've never, ever left before the final whistle either. Must be so many people getting stuck in traffic for no good reason! I refer you to the "walking" post I made above. I'm fairly sure if it was just me driving in, parking and driving back that I'd be able to say the same - the point is that lots of people have lots of reasons that they can't do that, and some of them evidently choose to nick off early rather than get stuck in it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I am sure true Man U are gutted they have so many plastics...Those plastics allow them to turn over 10 times what we do...they allow them to pay Rooney 300k a week... they allowed them to spend a british record transfer fee this summer for a player...they allow them to do a shirt deal which dwarfs our commercial income, in fact the sponsership on their training gear is probably more than our commercial income. they also fill a 70k seater stadium every game and ensure that they are shown on TV as many times as any other club. If you are going to be successful people will jump on the bandwagon. Liklihood is that the income from them will allow you to become or sustain success. Unless you are all prepared to buy 6 shirts and season tickets each, commercial growth will only come from the "plastics"....I welcome every convert to the Saints, even if they never go or spend any money hopefully they watch when we are on TV and they will raise our viewing figures and make it more attractive to show more of our games. I like meeting other Saints fans and talking about our club. I couldn't care less how many times they have been to a game or if they ever even have been to the city..I am glad they are Saints fans and not a supporter of Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea or the idiots from merseyside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 A mile and a half? Nice little stomp if you're not with someone who can't walk that far without discomfort. We've got someone with a load of metal in their spine, someone with arthritis and (currently) a broken leggie in our lot. Two of us have knackered knees too, and there's one with really short legs... Your firm must have to leave at half-time with that injury list...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 The simplest answer is to go for a couple of pints in the Joshua Tree after the match, wait till the traffic goes and get home at exactly the same time as if you'd have sat in the traffic straight after the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I'm from Coxford. I'm better than you! I'm from Andover I'm better than Lou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 (edited) I'm sure plenty are in the same boat as The9 - just nowhere near the full proportion of those that dash out early. Regardless of the other people's motivations or excuses, their leaving early demonstrates anything but strong support and is arguably a waste of money. Maybe that's all just a succinct reflection of where modern football is at. Fleeting, disposable and inefficient. Edited 10 December, 2014 by ant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I'm from Andover I'm better than Lou. Andover? Wow, you've found somewhere more sh*t than Coxford! Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 The simplest answer is to go for a couple of pints in the Joshua Tree after the match, wait till the traffic goes and get home at exactly the same time as if you'd have sat in the traffic straight after the match. and get nicked for drink driving...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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