OLDER BUT WISER Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Normally when we go back to the Waterfront after the game for a beer we get a few opposition fans in who maybe staying over for the night or have local friends, last night was different as we had a fair crowd of Man Ure fans who were pretty vocal and annoying BUT you did not hear a single northern accent as they were all from Southampton although a couple may have come from as far North as Otterbourne, I still do not get this desire to support a team that is not from your town and probably never will. Support your local sheriff.
Spudders Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 With otterbourne getting into the last 16 of the hants intermediate cup, I'm sure they'll be jumping ship back to their local team just in time for the final
eelpie Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 What about Saints fans who, instead of supporting the team to the finish, leave before the match ends? Isn't that just as fickle?
simo Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 What about Saints fans who, instead of supporting the team to the finish, leave before the match ends? Isn't that just as fickle? If I drive I leave at 87 minutes on the dot , nothing is worth sitting in that traffic !
Red Alert Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 What about Saints fans who, instead of supporting the team to the finish, leave before the match ends? Isn't that just as fickle? I wouldn't call leaving on 88 mins to beat the traffic last night before a 3 hour drive home particularly fickle. But then that's exactly what I did yesterday. Each to their own I guess.
simo Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 But talking of plastics our support was pants last night
scotty Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Normally when we go back to the Waterfront after the game for a beer we get a few opposition fans in who maybe staying over for the night or have local friends, last night was different as we had a fair crowd of Man Ure fans who were pretty vocal and annoying BUT you did not hear a single northern accent as they were all from Southampton although a couple may have come from as far North as Otterbourne, I still do not get this desire to support a team that is not from your town and probably never will. Support your local sheriff. I lived up there or thereabouts for six years. Whatever protests they put up, the man u fanbase is predominantly outside manchester, and judging by the accents I heard from the "fans" pouring off the London trains on match day, mainly southern. I saw a lot of it because we used to deal with a few big shops in mancland and saturday was always the busy day.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Watched the game in a pub in London. Unsurprisingly I was the only Saints fan there- other than my mate who was supporting us for the game- but not one of the United 'fans' was northern.
Saint Rees Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Nothing frustrates me more than people born and bred in Southampton that 'support' the likes of United and take the **** out of saints
ericb Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Funny that we get threads like this slating plastic United fans who don't come from manchester, but also threads that celebrate Saints fans that don't come from Southampton. Anyone would think we're a bunch of hypocrites...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Nothing frustrates me more than people born and bred in Southampton that 'support' the likes of United and take the **** out of saints Time to bring this up again:
andoru Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 The thing is, in this day and age a club needs these kind of fans to grow. Man Utd wouldn't be as big as it is financially without its global support. As annoying as plastic Saints fans would be, we need them to if we are ever to compete. We can't rely solely on local supporters anymore.
nta786 Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 'beat the traffic' What a load of old b@11@x. I can kinda see why but tbh, it's always worth waiting haha if your winning!
SarniaSaint Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Funny that we get threads like this slating plastic United fans who don't come from manchester, but also threads that celebrate Saints fans that don't come from Southampton. Anyone would think we're a bunch of hypocrites... Hey I ain't been I the UK for almost 40 years .....but born and bred in Southampton.............that OK with you????
Wes Tender Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Funny that we get threads like this slating plastic United fans who don't come from manchester, but also threads that celebrate Saints fans that don't come from Southampton. Anyone would think we're a bunch of hypocrites... They don't have to come from Southampton though, do they? Reasonable radius and we're the nearest team (even in the top division), work here, gone to Uni here, close family here, all fair enough reasons to support us. Those would also be acceptable reasons for supporting any of the glory teams too. But as we aren't a glory team, it is pretty hard to accuse anybody who supports us of being a plastic anyway, so the hypocrisy charge doesn't quite work. At the United match, there was some adult male tw*t sat in the Chapel wearing a Chelsea jacket. What was that all about? Are we his first team and Chelsea his second? Or is it the other way about? Or was he just a bit thick and didn't realise that it was a bloody stupid thing to do?
Raging Bull Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Couldn't give a flying 1 who supports who.... however I sit in block 7 and it tickles me the amount out saints kit clad giblets stood before the game with their iPhones trained on the MUFC bench.
angelman Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 Funny that we get threads like this slating plastic United fans who don't come from manchester, but also threads that celebrate Saints fans that don't come from Southampton. Anyone would think we're a bunch of hypocrites... There is a difference between us and them. They are a brand, we are not. Brands attract people from all over the world, while we rely more so on the locality. Saints supporters from outside of Southampton are still the minority. Man Utd ran a competition a few years back in Thailand to win a trip to OT to see a game. They had millions of people enter it. Liverpool have a game in Sydney's SCG, and 100k Liverpool supporters turn up. We have a pre-season in Belgium and 25 people from Southampton turn up.
70's Mike Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 Never understood why people worry about the Mancs, I know i got more enjoyment from the first weekend in May 1976 they get in a a lifetime of support!
CB Fry Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 Funny that we get threads like this slating plastic United fans who don't come from manchester, but also threads that celebrate Saints fans that don't come from Southampton. Anyone would think we're a bunch of hypocrites... We used to get the forum genius brigade demanding we build another 10-15,000 seats to cater for: a) Brand new Saints fans in our gigantic catchment area from Truro to Bath to Guildford to Dover. b) A neutral area for people who just want a nice day out at a Premier League football match. So some have shown a huge desire to ram the stadium full of "plastics".
shurlock Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 (edited) Funny that we get threads like this slating plastic United fans who don't come from manchester, but also threads that celebrate Saints fans that don't come from Southampton. Anyone would think we're a bunch of hypocrites... Anyone would think you're a moron who's unable to distinguish two fundamentally different cases. Last time I checked, plastic had connotations of supporting a big side. A connection to the area has nothing to do with being a plastic other than as a defense that support is not just skin-deep glory-hunting. Now explain to me how all this applies to supporting a sporadically successful and stodgily provincial side like Southampton? Edited 10 December, 2014 by shurlock
Plastic Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 Last time I checked, plastic had connotations of supporting a big side. Where did you check this? I should like to review the official connotations. Thank you.
OldNick Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 I want fans from all over the world to support us, it would mean we have won things. My experience shows me that in the main Man U fans are the type who have to support a winning team as they need to be able to brag. they are mentally weak
berkshiresaint Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 The term plastic fan really annoys me. Just because some of us have chosen to move away from Southampton and live in other parts of the country or indeed the world doesn't mean we are plastics. What with the cost of a ticket coupled with the cost of travel etc then supporting your club becomes very expensive. I for one have supported saints for over 40 years & have been to hundreds of games in that time, but just because I am not there every game singing from the stands does not make me a plastic & doesn't detract stop me being a true fan. I am sure there are countless others who will feel the same.
hasper57saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 Jesus H! I hope we don't fall into the abyss over this. Within my circle of neighbours there are Villa,Birmingham,Man City,ManU,Wolves,Walsall,Liverpool,Chelsea,Arsenal,Telford,Shrewsbury,Lincoln,Notts F and Saints. For most of us our work has brought us here but we still support a Club.Are we plastics?
ant Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 But talking of plastics our support was pants last night Not helped at the end by people flooding out from the 85th minute. A time when we were still chasing the game, no less. What kind of a message does it send the players when 1/3 to 1/2 of the crowd has given up and gone home already?
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 It takes all sorts - only too pleased that we have fans from all over. Just wish some had turned up when we were sliding into league 1 and the first season or so down there - would have been nice.
Coxford_lou Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 The term plastic fan really annoys me. Just because some of us have chosen to move away from Southampton and live in other parts of the country or indeed the world doesn't mean we are plastics. What with the cost of a ticket coupled with the cost of travel etc then supporting your club becomes very expensive. I for one have supported saints for over 40 years & have been to hundreds of games in that time, but just because I am not there every game singing from the stands does not make me a plastic & doesn't detract stop me being a true fan. I am sure there are countless others who will feel the same. I do agree when it's in the context of our club (rather than sl*gging off Man U fans I wonder if the slightly inward looking and defensive 'you can't be in our gang unless you've shown blood sweat and tears' reaction harps back to a slightly defensive English class system. Ie. if you're not one of us, we're going to look at you funny. I can't imagine any other interest where people would frown on others who like the same thing as them. Just a theory, feel free to tell/prove me wrong!
lifeintheslowlane Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 'beat the traffic' What a load of old b@11@x. Yep the only reason I have to sit in the traffic is because of all the ars***s who leave early...it's the price we supporters have to pay to thank our players as the leave the pitch. I hope you early leaving "supporters" are grateful we do that for you.
Saint86 Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 What about Saints fans who, instead of supporting the team to the finish, leave before the match ends? Isn't that just as fickle? So, a saints fan who comes from some distance outside Southampton and has to run to either avoid serious traffic or catch a train is fickle? Where do you get off you pompous bell end! These guys are taking greater time, effort and cost to support the team whilst all you can do is sit on your backside and critisize them for it?!?! Get real mate, and go do one if your only contribution is to criticize other saints fans.
lifeintheslowlane Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 So, a saints fan who comes from some distance outside Southampton and has to run to either avoid serious traffic or catch a train is fickle? ...and that's the price you pay! It's no more sanctimonious than you telling us what sacrifices you have to make to attend games.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 What's more annoying than a plastic? Someone who bleats on about what a 'proper' supporter they are. It's football. There are no rules about how you should support your team and how you should enjoy it. It's turned into a consumer industry that attracts all sorts. Just because you went to the Bescott Stadium on a cold December Saturday 5 years ago it doesn't make you any better than the person who has started going to games now we're back in the Premier League - perhaps he / she has a different reason for going to the football than you - what a disgrace! Throw them out! Enjoy football how you want to, but don't impress it on other people. It's pathetic.
a1ex2001 Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 Normally when we go back to the Waterfront after the game for a beer we get a few opposition fans in who maybe staying over for the night or have local friends, last night was different as we had a fair crowd of Man Ure fans who were pretty vocal and annoying BUT you did not hear a single northern accent as they were all from Southampton although a couple may have come from as far North as Otterbourne, I still do not get this desire to support a team that is not from your town and probably never will. Support your local sheriff. What does this make me? I was born in Manchester and spent my youth in South Wales but have been a Saints fan since the age of 7 for reasons that nobody has ever been able to explain it's not like we were even any good in the late 80's.
Coxford_lou Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 What does this make me? I was born in Manchester and spent my youth in South Wales but have been a Saints fan since the age of 7 for reasons that nobody has ever been able to explain it's not like we were even any good in the late 80's. Weird!!
eurosaint Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 Ironically the 'plastic' Mancs (all 2.5 thousand of them !) made more noise throughout Monday night's match than our 30 thousand ish ! Certainly their away support is always very passionate and doesn't come across as very plastic at all (to me anyway!).
Easty Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 If the so called plastic fans didn't bother to turn up, there would be a crowd of about 20.000. Up the plastics
Wes Tender Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 The term plastic fan really annoys me. Just because some of us have chosen to move away from Southampton and live in other parts of the country or indeed the world doesn't mean we are plastics. What with the cost of a ticket coupled with the cost of travel etc then supporting your club becomes very expensive. I for one have supported saints for over 40 years & have been to hundreds of games in that time, but just because I am not there every game singing from the stands does not make me a plastic & doesn't detract stop me being a true fan. I am sure there are countless others who will feel the same. You don't come under the definition of what a plastic fan is in my opinion. You moved away from this area, but still follow the team, despite the distance. As far as I'm concerned, being a plastic fan means that you support a team for no other reason than than they have been consistently successful over a sustained period of time. So if somebody claims to be a Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and latterly Man City fan, and they have absolutely no connections with those cities, then they qualify as plastics.
Wes Tender Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 Not helped at the end by people flooding out from the 85th minute. A time when we were still chasing the game, no less. What kind of a message does it send the players when 1/3 to 1/2 of the crowd has given up and gone home already? 1/3rd to a 1/2? A few hundred, maybe. But I certainly didn't see 10,000/12,000 people streaming towards the exits.
WokingSaint Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 The term plastic fan really annoys me. Just because some of us have chosen to move away from Southampton and live in other parts of the country or indeed the world doesn't mean we are plastics. What with the cost of a ticket coupled with the cost of travel etc then supporting your club becomes very expensive. I for one have supported saints for over 40 years & have been to hundreds of games in that time, but just because I am not there every game singing from the stands does not make me a plastic & doesn't detract stop me being a true fan. I am sure there are countless others who will feel the same. Agreed 100%.
red&white56 Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 Ironically the 'plastic' Mancs (all 2.5 thousand of them !) made more noise throughout Monday night's match than our 30 thousand ish ! Certainly their away support is always very passionate and doesn't come across as very plastic at all (to me anyway!). I couldn't hear them from where I was stood in the Kingsland. I thought we were making some good noise! Just goes to show that my perception is different from yours and we were at the same game.....
Lets B Avenue Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 Just because you went to the Bescott Stadium on a cold December Saturday 5 years ago it doesn't make you any better than the person who has started going to games now we're back in the Premier League I did and it does!
adrian lord Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 What does this make me? I was born in Manchester and spent my youth in South Wales but have been a Saints fan since the age of 7 for reasons that nobody has ever been able to explain it's not like we were even any good in the late 80's. A hero who deserves a medal!
Beachcombers Windowsill Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 Facebook is always always awash with the usual glory-hunting mongtards after a game against Saints. Even saw one calling us Scummers. YOU LIVE IN SOUTHAMPTON YOU ABSOLUTE F*CKWIT
shurlock Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 I did and it does! Slum tourism or anti-plastic chic. IIRC we sold out all our allocation behind the goal and were also given seats on the side.
Lets B Avenue Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 Slum tourism or anti-plastic chic. IIRC we sold out all our allocation behind the goal and were also given seats on the side. On the side for that one. Went behind the goal the next year and we lost. It was nearer to that social club we drank in.
ant Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 1/3rd to a 1/2? A few hundred, maybe. But I certainly didn't see 10,000/12,000 people streaming towards the exits. It was certainly that proportion in the blocks surrounding where I was stood. Same every game unless we're giving the opposition a comprehensive kicking (and sometimes even then).
eelpie Posted 10 December, 2014 Posted 10 December, 2014 So, a saints fan who comes from some distance outside Southampton and has to run to either avoid serious traffic or catch a train is fickle? Where do you get off you pompous bell end! These guys are taking greater time, effort and cost to support the team whilst all you can do is sit on your backside and critisize them for it?!?! Get real mate, and go do one if your only contribution is to criticize other saints fans. I travel from London, sometimes by car, sometimes by train. I support Saints till the end, win or lose. And did so when we were in League 1. How does it look to our players when they see mass exits of their own supporters before the end of the game. You wouldn't expect them to give up until the final whistle, would you? We've drawn or won many games in the past close to extra time because of that last supreme effort by our team.
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