SO16_Saint Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 We've never lost we I've started a build up thread (mainly because I've never started one) but hey, gotta start somewhere. back to winning ways. not sure about changes, other than Mane not to start. 3-1 win for Saints COYR
saint_jas Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 I am going to this. Definite win. 100% record so far this season. Only managed 1 other game so far. Based on tonight please someone else in team than Mane.
Baird of the land Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 Still want reed in the team. The midfield looked unbalanced against a woeful Man Utd.
Lighthouse Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 Don't see any need to change the team unless Morgan is fit, in which case he's in for Mane. No reason at all we can't win this.
Dalek2003 Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 We NEED 3 points or we will slip into the relegation fight by January.
shurlock Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 Still want reed in the team. The midfield looked unbalanced against a woeful Man Utd. Complete tosh - our midfield coped much better than was expected. Couldn't tell that we had one less defensively-minded CM on the pitch.
Lighthouse Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 Complete tosh - our midfield coped much better than was expected. Couldn't tell that we had one less defensively-minded CM on the pitch. I'm sure Reed is a talented player but the coaches who watch him every day clearly don't think he is ready for Premier League football. I'm not sure on what basis some people have decided he is the answer to our problems. If he was the key man who would have won the game for us against Arsenal, City and Utd I'm sure he'd have played a fair few games for us already. Another disappointing result beckons Don't be a tit. How many £30m players do Burnley have.
badgerx16 Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 The Dingles are really not that good, and this is a perfect opportunity to get back into our stride. 2-0 Saints, Pelle and Long.
Baird of the land Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 Complete tosh - our midfield coped much better than was expected. Couldn't tell that we had one less defensively-minded CM on the pitch. Sorry second half it was completely obvious we were being caught out regularly.
badgerx16 Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 Sorry second half it was completely obvious we were being caught out regularly. Doesn't really matter, it's now a question of whether that midfield can overcome the Dingles, which surely they can ?
Killers Knee Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 Dreading this match, injury pile up written all over it.
Greedyfly Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 I'm sure Reed is a talented player but the coaches who watch him every day clearly don't think he is ready for Premier League football. I'm not sure on what basis some people have decided he is the answer to our problems. If he was the key man who would have won the game for us against Arsenal, City and Utd I'm sure he'd have played a fair few games for us already. Don't be a tit. How many £30m players do Burnley have. What's that got to do with it. United are a shambles yet they just turned us over. More Mayuka late subbing, Mane being utterly ineffective and a defensive **** up and another game gone. I genuinely thought we'd be up there looking at Europe this season, was a false dawn however
Baird of the land Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 Doesn't really matter, it's now a question of whether that midfield can overcome the Dingles, which surely they can ? Why play vastly underperforming mane and risk getting caught out in midfield. Go back to the solid 3 in midfield approach that got us points.
badgerx16 Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 What's that got to do with it. United are a shambles yet they just turned us over. More Mayuka late subbing, Mane being utterly ineffective and a defensive **** up and another game gone. I genuinely thought we'd be up there looking at Europe this season, was a false dawn however We are 5th, not 15th, and the difference tonight was down to RVP.
badgerx16 Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 Why play vastly underperforming mane and risk getting caught out in midfield. Go back to the solid 3 in midfield approach that got us points. That's RK's judgement call - will Mane represent a bigger risk to Burnley's defence with his attacking, or to ours with his lack of midfield tenacity ?
Greedyfly Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 We are 5th, not 15th, and the difference tonight was down to RVP. And we'll be another mediocre 10 come season end. And all the usual suspects will be 1-6. Like I intimated, just disappointed I got caught up in the hype!
S-Clarke Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 Should be a little too much for Burnley, would expect us to get back to winning ways here. If we don't - meltdown!!!!!!
teamsaint Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 Sorry second half it was completely obvious we were being caught out regularly. we got caught out by one poorly defended freekick in the whole of the second half. CM had nothing to do with it.
badgerx16 Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 And we'll be another mediocre 10 come season end. Maybe, maybe not, but I don't think we're playing badly at present, we just got mugged 3 times in a week by teams with vastly superior resources and experience - if Morgan and Toby had been fit tonight I suspect we would have won.
Lighthouse Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 And we'll be another mediocre 10 come season end. And all the usual suspects will be 1-6. Like I intimated, just disappointed I got caught up in the hype! The usual suspects... Chelsea, City, Utd and Arsenal. You would have to be pretty optimistic to think we can break those four but it is possible. Then who's next? Liverpool - The team who just drew at home to Sunderland and Ludogorets and got spanked by Palace. Balloheskey? Spurs - Have been hopeless at home, overall. Without red cards for Hull and Villa they would be well adrift Everton - Martinez seems to be turning them into the next Wigan. Why can't we compete with that lot?
shurlock Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 Sorry second half it was completely obvious we were being caught out regularly. No it wasn't completely obvious. Despite supposedly being caught out regularly, an expensively assembled side created nothing or even enjoy much possession. Yes we tired but if anything, the changes upfront disrupted the balance. Never mind there isnt a shred of evidence that Reed would have improved matters.
Micky Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 The Dingles are really not that good, and this is a perfect opportunity to get back into our stride. 2-0 Saints, Pelle and Long. The Dingles will be a whole lot better than Man Utd tonight, and we failed to beat them at home. Our finishing in front of goal is woeful, we look short of confidence and FF blows hot and cold. Throw in our injuries and this is no easy game. Burnley will be well up for this given our recent form. I'd take a point now, but can see us getting nothing.
GarrettIvo Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 Still want reed in the team. The midfield looked unbalanced against a woeful Man Utd. Rubbish. The midfield was fine for most of the game. Fellaini and especially Mata were practically anonymous.
simo Posted 8 December, 2014 Posted 8 December, 2014 Finishing let us down tonight , not bothered about a good performance I'll take nicking a scrappy 1 nil win but I expect Ings to get one ! 3-1 saints
Batman Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 play like we did tonight (against united) and we will win
Lighthouse Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Rubbish. The midfield was fine for most of the game. Fellaini and especially Mata were practically anonymous. Hard to think they paid the best part of £70m for those two. More than our whole squad cost I think.
Sour Mash Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 play like we did tonight (against united) and we will winThis. We're still a good team and although Burnley will make it tough for us, we're better than them and they don't have an Alrxis Sanchez or Robin van Persie to win it for them.
SO16_Saint Posted 9 December, 2014 Author Posted 9 December, 2014 play like we did tonight (against united) and we will win Was just about to type exactly this. If we play like we did last night, we would have beaten 10-12 of the teams in this league at a canter. We just have to keep believing in ourselves and the results will come
Turkish Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Southamptons early season form seems a long time ago, they are in a terrible run, their once solid defence is making mistake after mistake and the goals have dried up for them which is not a good combination. Meanwhile Burnley haven't had an easy start to life in the premier league and have to string a run of wins together and I think they can, starting with a win here. Dorkish prediction Burnley 4 southampton 0
ant Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 MUST WIN. We could beat Burnley and still lose a dozen matches after that, why is the next one specifically a 'MUST WIN'? If we were to lose to Burnley yet regain those points by beating, say... Chelsea, would Burnley still have been 'MUST WIN'? A strong result would help to build a little momentum again, but the next match is no more independently important than any other upcoming league fixture.
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 If we want to be taken seriously as a top 4 contender, rather than having the media feast on the wheels coming off completely this is a must win. If we are happy to coast along and settle for 10th - 8th it's not a must win and we can take it easy - like Pochettino at Sunderland in the cup.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Or not. We could beat Burnley and still lose a dozen matches after that, why is the next one specifically a 'MUST WIN'? If we were to lose to Burnley yet regain those points by beating, say... Chelsea, would Burnley still have been 'MUST WIN'? What will happen if we don't? Caught 3! Anyone else want to bite? I thought the capitals would make it obvious I was taking the p!ss!
simo Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Rest the big players for the more important game Wednesday
Wiggles31 Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 MUST WIN. This really is a must win. We need to win this to get the season back on track and put to rest the last 3 games. We also have the quarter final after Burnley and a win would give the squad big confidence for arguably our biggest game of the season.
The Cat Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Rest anyone who is tired or has a niggle for the league cup game. We're not going to finish top 4 so may as well go all out for the cup.
Saint Garrett Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Fingers crossed Toby and Morgan are both fit. Would make a huge difference to us just to give us an option or two off the bench. Yoshi in for Toby if necessary. Would be tempted to start with Reed in CM alongside VW and Davis if Morgan isn't back. Forster; Clyne Fonte Toby Bertrand; Wanyama Davis Morgan; Tadic Pelle Long
The Cat Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Which game is more important for the fans, Burnley or Sheff Utd? Considering it's likely we will be taking at least double and maybe 3 times the number to Sheffield on Tuesday than we will to Burnley on Saturday it looks like the cup game is.
badgerx16 Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Forster; Clyne Fonte Toby Bertrand; Wanyama Davis Morgan; Tadic Pelle Long Out of curiosity, why not list the team as Fraser, Nathaniel, Jose, Toby, Ryan, Victor, Steve, Morgan, Dusan, Graziano, Shane ? Why do only 2 players get first name familiarity ?
Trout-Tickler Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 This is a very tough game. They may be short on quality but if we don't match their work rate and determination then we'll struggle. Could do with a positive result to get us moving in the right direction again!
VectisSaint Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Out of curiosity, why not list the team as Fraser, Nathaniel, Jose, Toby, Ryan, Victor, Steve, Morgan, Dusan, Graziano, Shane ? Why do only 2 players get first name familiarity ? Becos thay iss hrad too spill.
Saint86 Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 The Dingles will be a whole lot better than Man Utd tonight, and we failed to beat them at home. Our finishing in front of goal is woeful, we look short of confidence and FF blows hot and cold. Throw in our injuries and this is no easy game. Burnley will be well up for this given our recent form. I'd take a point now, but can see us getting nothing. With all due respect to Burnley (who i like!), you can not honestly go to a relegation threatened club with the mindset of we'll do well to get a point unless you think we ourselves are at relegation scrap level?!?! It is not our players that are low on confidence but some of our fans. Too many have forgotten that we are 5th in the league, with some really exciting players. They are all to eager to come on here and slag off the players and tactics as if we should expect to have won at home to Man city, won and arsenal etc. These guys need to get real. Yes we would have all loved to pick up points from those games and are disappointed not to have, but the simple truth is that once again our heavy injury list has hit at the same time as us playing all the big teams. We're still very much in and about the top 6 so is it really that big a deal? Or did people think we were actually coming top 2 by the end of the season? Support the team, stop blasting all the players and for gods sake, we aren't bottom of the league, we can still expect to go to Burnley without having to snap there arm off for a point pre match... this isn't like playing chelsea away ffs. Man up!
Batman Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Just need to forget recent results and focus on the fact we are a much better side than Burnley. Match their workrate and chances will come. I'd keep Long in, this is the sort of game he should be scoring in. Drop Mane and put Reed in midfield if Cork and Morgan are out. Huge game though. Losing 3 competitive games is one thing, but if you bounce back and keep beating the rest, you really have something. I would agree with that. If we play like we did against united and arsenal, we will win nicely
Saint Garrett Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Out of curiosity, why not list the team as Fraser, Nathaniel, Jose, Toby, Ryan, Victor, Steve, Morgan, Dusan, Graziano, Shane ? Why do only 2 players get first name familiarity ? I've no idea....probably laziness of having to write long names. Also - on tapatalk it always autcorrects those!!!
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Which of our injured players are due back for this one? Alderwiereld must be if he was only a doubt for yesterday?
Window Cleaner Posted 9 December, 2014 Posted 9 December, 2014 Which of our injured players are due back for this one? Alderwiereld must be if he was only a doubt for yesterday? Who knows really, it's all smoke and mirrors concerning them. They'll be back when they're back and that's about it.
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