S-Clarke Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 The lack of any real substance on Morgan worries me. Been a case of ''not sure how long, but he's out for this game'' for the last 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 The lack of any real substance on Morgan worries me. Been a case of ''not sure how long, but he's out for this game'' for the last 2. Worry like, "he's off to Arsenal in the window and we are testing what the options are without him and smoke screening with 'injury'"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Worry like, "he's off to Arsenal in the window and we are testing what the options are without him and smoke screening with 'injury'"? .....surely it's only a matter of time......and getting a proper fee? If Lallana went for £25 million, I wouldn't value Schneiderlin at any less... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 The lack of any real substance on Morgan worries me. Been a case of ''not sure how long, but he's out for this game'' for the last 2. My thoughts entirely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 In respect of Morgan it depends where we finish the season: No European Football = Gone in the Summer Europa League = 50/50 Champions League = Likely stay the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 In respect of Morgan it depends where we finish the season: No European Football = Gone in the Summer Europa League = 50/50 Champions League = Likely stay the season For me, he's gone regardless of how we do. He feels he has served his time here and he wants to play for a bigger team. Only things remaining are if its Jan/summer and how much Arsenal are willing to pay. Injury to Cork may scupper a January move. If Arsenal allow him to go to Spurs they really are stupid. He's a perfect fit for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 (edited) In respect of Morgan it depends where we finish the season: No European Football = Gone in the Summer Europa League = 50/50 Champions League = Likely stay the season he wont be staying he has been pretty clear that he still wants out I think Wanyama is more up arsenal street. they need a big power house. And vic can now play also, arsenal have been linked with Kondogbia (sp) who is even bigger Edited 6 December, 2014 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 December, 2014 Author Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Worry like, "he's off to Arsenal in the window and we are testing what the options are without him and smoke screening with 'injury'"? Not really worried about any transfer, more worried that the injury is worse than is being let on (or not let on about at all!) We'll find out sooner rather than later i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Morgan will be gone in the summer, he'll not be sold in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 he wont be staying he has been pretty clear that he still wants out I think Wanyama is more up arsenal street. they need a big power house. And vic can now play also, arsenal have been linked with Kondogbia (sp) who is even bigger I am led to believe that it depends on where we finish. You are of course welcome to your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 I am led to believe that it depends on where we finish. You are of course welcome to your opinion. Morgan has said he wants to play for a big club he will be gone this summer regardless of were we finish in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 I am led to believe that it depends on where we finish. You are of course welcome to your opinion. I have not seen one single quote from morgan about that. but seen PLENTY about him wanting to play for a genuine BIG club? feel free to post links on what you have heard?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 I have not seen one single quote from morgan about that. but seen PLENTY about him wanting to play for a genuine BIG club? feel free to post links on what you have heard?? No links, just passing on what I have heard from someone I trust and would know. The clue to that was me saying "I am led to believe". Would be interesting to hear if one of our ITK's such as KBilly, Monk or Guan have heard similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 (edited) He won't stay on the off chance we get through a CL qualifier, with the prospect of getting our arses handed to us if we make it into the group stages as a low seed He has done his time here, he owes is nothing and if he has half a brain he will want to test himself at a genuine higher level. Good luck to him. Edited 7 December, 2014 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 Morgan will be gone in the summer, he'll not be sold in January. And you're going to fall off your bike next Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 I must say it certainly would be rather strange if we did let him go in January considering we weren't willing to do so in the summer; plus of course it would make far more sense for him personally to stick around for a season and get a proper pre-season under his belt at a new club. Having said all that, selling him in January would 1) Give us more time to adapt to not having him in the side 2) Give us more time to see if we can buy a replacement and/or whether or not we're going to adjust our set-up having lost our best player 3) Allow us to get a higher price for him from clubs who're really desperate to buy a DMF/CMF 'quarterback' type player that he is 4) Do all of the above safe in the knowledge that survival is already secure and there's no possibility of anything particularly disastrous happening. £25Mn is the absolute bare minimum selling price and we should certainly approach the negotiating table starting at around about £35-£37Mn. I'd be surprised if he did go in January though I must say. If, hypothetically (because it won't happen), we did finish in the top-four this season and qualified for the CL group stages, I do think he'd stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 December, 2014 Author Share Posted 7 December, 2014 Just to clarify....my post at the start of this was in relation to a potential 'injury' cover up, rather than a transfer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 Just to clarify....my post at the start of this was in relation to a potential 'injury' cover up, rather than a transfer... RK hopes he's fit for the game after United. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 Just to clarify....my post at the start of this was in relation to a potential 'injury' cover up, rather than a transfer... Correct, seemed the logical place to kick it off where it branched from talking about Jack Cork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 He is off to Spurs with J-rod in January according to the Mirror. Spurs have a 20 million pound mid season transfer kitty to land both of them :lol: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-set-january-rebuild-schneiderlin-4765626 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 He is off to Spurs with J-rod in January according to the Mirror. Spurs have a 20 million pound mid season transfer kitty to land both of them :lol: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-set-january-rebuild-schneiderlin-4765626 But it doesn't say that does it? It says, pretty clearly, £20m plus funds raised from sales. They won't sign either in January, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 (edited) But it doesn't say that does it? It says, pretty clearly, £20m plus funds raised from sales. They won't sign either in January, anyway. How much do you reckon they will get from player sales then? not much I reckon. I know it falls in to your "all saints fans think the press hate us" bugbear, which you love to bring up as often as daleks we will finish 17th routine, but that article is pretty crap IMO. Edited 8 December, 2014 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 Just to clarify....my post at the start of this was in relation to a potential 'injury' cover up, rather than a transfer... It's a trick, RK playing mind games with LVG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 How much do you reckon they will get from player sales then? not much I reckon. I know it falls in to your "all saints think the press hate us" bugbear, which you love to bring up as often as daleks we will finish 17th routine, but that article is pretty crap IMO. Not a Spurs fan so couldn't give two sh its about what they might raise from sales. It is crap but just simply pointing out that it clearly doesn't say what you said it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 Jan spending last 5 years. 2014: None. 2013: Holtby £1.5m, Fryers £3m. 2012: None. 2011: Bongani £1.5m, Pienaar £3m. 2010: Kaboul £5m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 Press find it hard to take that Jan transfer window is never as exciting as they need to predict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 somehow it's hard to think that either Schneiderlin...(or Jay Rod) would go in January, and their eventual return-to-form would leave a clearer picture in May instead. The final factor in the equation would surely be - if we qualify for some sort of Euro competition next season? - if not, we may see another exodus of star-names... based on our fantastic start this season. No-one is sure how long Morgan's return will take, and (again-like Jay Rod) what sort of form he will hit when he does return. The mindset of a long-term "return-ee" must surely be clouded by the thought -will the injury hold-up?...or will I get injured again? Expecting someone to come " roaring back " in top form belongs in Fantasy Football games. The Prem.is tough enough even for fully fit, on-form players. Faced with this prospect, only a very daring (or foolish) person would pay out the £20-25 million that Saints would surely demand for each player - were they to go so soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 December, 2014 Share Posted 19 December, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11304112/Arsenal-transfers-Arsene-Wenger-weighs-up-bid-for-Tottenham-target-Morgan-Schneiderlin.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 December, 2014 Share Posted 19 December, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11304112/Arsenal-transfers-Arsene-Wenger-weighs-up-bid-for-Tottenham-target-Morgan-Schneiderlin.html Paper talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 December, 2014 Share Posted 19 December, 2014 Paper talk. I think that's why they call it "speculation" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 December, 2014 Share Posted 19 December, 2014 Arsenal have been linked with him every summer since he's been here yet have never actually made a bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 December, 2014 Share Posted 19 December, 2014 Arsenal have been linked with him every summer since he's been here yet have never actually made a bid. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 December, 2014 Share Posted 19 December, 2014 I think that's why they call it "speculation" Ah but there they're making out that they didn't make it up and start putting about. Speculation falls into 2 main categories "paper talk" ie crap they've made up themselves and "agent bolloaks", whereby someone interested in getting the player a move makes it up and tells the paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambsaint Posted 19 December, 2014 Share Posted 19 December, 2014 Schneiderlin is far too good for Spuds, and the transfer valuations they have made are either insulting or ridiculous. I would have though that Man Ure would have been interested as well as Arsenal. I doubt we can keep him if we can't afford £70K a week. IMO £25mill is the least we should accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 19 December, 2014 Share Posted 19 December, 2014 Schneiderlin is far too good for Spuds, and the transfer valuations they have made are either insulting or ridiculous. I would have though that Man Ure would have been interested as well as Arsenal. I doubt we can keep him if we can't afford £70K a week. IMO £25mill is the least we should accept. I think we probably can afford 70K a week for him--the problem would be the cascading effects on other salaries. Would everyone want a raise if he gets that amount or would the other players be happy the club is holding onto a top player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 20 December, 2014 Share Posted 20 December, 2014 Source? Saints Web Forum. pffft. Don't you know anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 20 December, 2014 Share Posted 20 December, 2014 Morgan to Arsenal for Podolski + 15m or Morgan to Spuds for Harry Kane + 18m Bring in Classie to replace Morgan ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 20 December, 2014 Share Posted 20 December, 2014 Sooner have Harry Kane But that won't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 December, 2014 Share Posted 20 December, 2014 It will be touch and go if he is here at the end of Jan. Hopefully we ha. A good replacement ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 December, 2014 Share Posted 20 December, 2014 It will be touch and go if he is here at the end of Jan. Hopefully we ha. A good replacement ready. Can't see anything happening in January, just don't think anyone will offer anywhere near enough. Still think Clasie is far too small to be an effective CM in the PL as well, wouldn't count on that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 December, 2014 Share Posted 20 December, 2014 It will be touch and go if he is here at the end of Jan. Hopefully we ha. A good replacement ready. Clearly not "touch and go", nowhere near that. If Arsenal (or Barcelona) rock up with £25m he would go, but that's more than incredibly unlikely. He's here until the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 December, 2014 Share Posted 20 December, 2014 Can't see anything happening in January, just don't think anyone will offer anywhere near enough. Still think Clasie is far too small to be an effective CM in the PL as well, wouldn't count on that either. Let's hope you are right, as the team fades perhaps MS head will turn. Poch is a lucky manager and Spurs are a massive club compared to us, I can see why MS would want to go there.Spurs will finish the season well as Pochs method get instilled, it is galling but that is going to be the way it will end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 December, 2014 Share Posted 20 December, 2014 Clearly not "touch and go", nowhere near that. If Arsenal (or Barcelona) rock up with £25m he would go, but that's more than incredibly unlikely. He's here until the summer. We don't know what the club will accept or what was agreed when the deal was cancelled at the end of the summer. I do hope you are right and Spurs will wait their time, unless of course some even bigger clubs want him, that would be best for us as at least there will be a bidding war. It wasn't happening in the summer gone but perhaps the publicity has alerted a few more clubs to his ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 December, 2014 Share Posted 20 December, 2014 Let's hope you are right, as the team fades perhaps MS head will turn. Poch is a lucky manager and Spurs are a massive club compared to us, I can see why MS would want to go there.Spurs will finish the season well as Pochs method get instilled, it is galling but that is going to be the way it will end. I don't doubt that you're right about the second part, looked at them the other day, they're beginning to seize what's required and look pretty fit at the end of games, still rather have him here than there myself but it wasn't to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 December, 2014 Share Posted 20 December, 2014 I don't doubt that you're right about the second part, looked at them the other day, they're beginning to seize what's required and look pretty fit at the end of games, still rather have him here than there myself but it wasn't to be.yep, I really like Koeman and happy he chose to come to us, but it felt more exciting with Poch at the helm. Now it is obvious that the club policy is to sell if the player wants to go, how can we feel the same about any player. Under the old regime you knew they would really fight to keep a player and not court offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 21 December, 2014 Share Posted 21 December, 2014 Arsenal to make "monster" January bid. Will need to be http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/416271/Arsenal-Tottenham-Morgan-Schneiderlin-transfer-latest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 21 December, 2014 Share Posted 21 December, 2014 Would be very disappointed if we sold him in January halfway through our best PL season. Pretty clear he will go in the summer which I think most fans accept and wouldnt begrudge him a move to a CL club. But January would be madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 21 December, 2014 Share Posted 21 December, 2014 Would be very disappointed if we sold him in January halfway through our best PL season. Pretty clear he will go in the summer which I think most fans accept and wouldnt begrudge him a move to a CL club. But January would be madness. Absolutely, if he goes in the summer i will have no hard feelings whatsoever. If he goes for £30million or more in january and we sign Sneijder for example, i don't think i'd be too upset then either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 21 December, 2014 Share Posted 21 December, 2014 Absolutely, if he goes in the summer i will have no hard feelings whatsoever. If he goes for £30million or more in january and we sign Sneijder for example, i don't think i'd be too upset then either... it would be hard for the club to turn down £30m in January. and hard for the player if arsenal/united come calling I really hope he stays until the summer. brilliant player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 21 December, 2014 Share Posted 21 December, 2014 it would be hard for the club to turn down £30m in January. and hard for the player is arsenal/united come calling Why? They would possibly have more clubs come in during the summer and it would significantly weaken our chances of getting into the Europa League. As for the player its only another 4 months. He will have plenty of options in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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