Turkish Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 Great to see the club growing off the pitch too. Enormous credit to Gareth, Ralph, Dave and Les for this http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20141207-southampton-fast-track-100-2126673.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 Interesting stuff and not one other sports team on that list, well done everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millbrook Saint Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 I don't mean to put a dampner on things but surely the reason for the quick growth is promotion from League 1, with its low tv revenue, to the premier league, with its outrageously high tv income. We have obviously made a lot of money from player sales which I would imagine is another source of income we'll be looking to emulate over the coming years, just how successful this will be thouogh is anyones guess. Then there's always the possibility of the player replacements not being as good, though we done well this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 I don't mean to put a dampner on things but surely the reason for the quick growth is promotion from League 1, with its low tv revenue, to the premier league, with its outrageously high tv income. We have obviously made a lot of money from player sales which I would imagine is another source of income we'll be looking to emulate over the coming years, just how successful this will be thouogh is anyones guess. Then there's always the possibility of the player replacements not being as good, though we done well this year. But most teams don't go from the bottom of league 1 to the top of the premier league over the space of 4 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 December, 2014 Author Share Posted 7 December, 2014 "Our revenue will come from 3 main sources: organic growth in commerial activities,new business development opportunities and improved broadcasting incomes. This revenue growth will then be aligned to the football strategies to create the self sustaining business model Southampton prides itself on" Isn't it great to know we are in such good hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 Certainly we have a great business and playing model for a mid-sized club to follow. We can punch above our weight, and look to emulate in our own way, clubs like Athletico Madrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 We are very lucky. Winning on the pitch is great, but I can't stomach the corrupt side of football. What they've achieved is phenomenal in so many ways. Real innovation for the football industry, and hopefully more clubs will follow their model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 I would add that the current regime and Cortese deserve credit in this regard. Cortese was perhaps a necessary 'evil' at the time; we have better balance now between ruthless business governance and being a 'club'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 Does anyone know the total amount of money that has been invested into the club and wrote off since the takeover? Whilst I like the talk of being sustainable and so on, quite clearly our growth has been fuelled investment rather than any other method. There has been nothing clever about that part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 if we dont make top 6, this is what it is all about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 I think we should make sure we pass on out thanks to the one person without whom we couldn't have accomplished this amazing achievement. Thanks Brendan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 Rubbish Business success in Football is totally dependent on success of first team, revenue would plummet in all 3 areas of their organic growth if we were relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 Southampton Football Club is creating a successful blueprint for success Successful club is successful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 December, 2014 Author Share Posted 8 December, 2014 Rubbish Business success in Football is totally dependent on success of first team, revenue would plummet in all 3 areas of their organic growth if we were relegated Whilst this is true one look at our commercial income on previous years shows that we haven't been taking advantage of our success on the pitch. In our first season back in the premier league it was normal for half the corporate boxes to be empty and this was reflected in the figures, with premier league saints having commercial income lower than championship clubs like Watford. Of course the more successful sides will attract the biggest sponsors but we were failing spectacularly off the pitch. It's good to see we have people in place now who recognise that and are doing something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 I would add that the current regime and Cortese deserve credit in this regard. Cortese was perhaps a necessary 'evil' at the time; we have better balance now between ruthless business governance and being a 'club'. Agree ...good analysis.....and those stats. won't include the summer income from transfers either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 I cant wait to tell my grandkids about the days when we were so solvent, and moving up the business league table. I will talk about great names like Ralph Krueger and Gareth Rogers and Les Reed. And when they ask if they were playing in Cardiff in 2003 or set up Matt Le Tissier for his legendary goals, I'll scoff and say, "no, they werent on the pitch, they were running the club successfully, unfortunately kids, we didnt win **** all on the pitch". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 Would you rather finish top four on this list, or 34th and a cup run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 Would you rather finish top four on this list, or 34th and a cup run? finishing top four on this list would not give me anything to shout about, a cup run would, so its an obvious answer. I mean if ANYONE tells me they would rather finish top four in this list than a cup run then i really would think football (the game) was dead and buried. Que, the Leeds/Skates scenario questions..... would you rather be fourth on the list than winning the CL and nearly going bust again. well to save time, we cant go bust under Kat, its pretty much impossible unless she wanted it to happen purposely and even then that would be a difficult thing to do, so that question would be irrelevant. I'd rather win something, been to Wembley and see us lose the ZDS, been to Cardiff and lose, seen us finish eighth in the PL and never seen us win a title. The JPT is what we have done, which was great and no matter how high on the rich or solvent or great business list we are, it wont compare to winning at Wembley. So its great being solvent and doing well, but wake me up when we win something on a football pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 When will Kat just hurry up and sell the club FFS. We are being run by utter idiots. Wreck-it Ralph etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 Great to see the club growing off the pitch too. Enormous credit to Gareth, Ralph, Dave and Les for this http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20141207-southampton-fast-track-100-2126673.aspx This has [almost] nothing to do with Ralph. This is based on figures for financial years up to June 2014, so apart from about 4-5 months Ralph cannot take any credit. Gareth and Les for sure (is Dave Bence new or has he been with Saints a long time, he has replaced Gareth as CFO but I don't know if that is a promotion from within). Credit for this must go to Cortese, Markus and for the last year or so to Katharina as well as Gareth and Les. But just to put some perspective on this, the reason we have done so well is because we started with virtually nothing 5 years ago, therefore the increase in percentage terms is enormous, but not in real terms. The reason is almost entirely due to promotion to the Premier League and staying there for 2 seasons. Fact is as the new board have also said our commercial income (outside of broadcast rights) is actually very poor (Cortese's fault). We could have done so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 Good to be flying up the business list, bad to have no midfielders to face Man Utd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 Why should we only have success off OR on the pitch? Why not want both? I want us to be in brilliant financial shape AND win some trophies. I'm 27 and only ever seen us win the JPT. That was brilliant and I'll never forget it. But winning the FA Cup would be dreamland for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 "Our revenue will come from 3 main sources: organic growth in commerial activities,new business development opportunities and improved broadcasting incomes. This revenue growth will then be aligned to the football strategies to create the self sustaining business model Southampton prides itself on" Isn't it great to know we are in such good hands. Warning flags are flying, I see a sincere Turkish post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 I cant wait to tell my grandkids about the days when we were so solvent, and moving up the business league table. I will talk about great names like Ralph Krueger and Gareth Rogers and Les Reed. And when they ask if they were playing in Cardiff in 2003 or set up Matt Le Tissier for his legendary goals, I'll scoff and say, "no, they werent on the pitch, they were running the club successfully, unfortunately kids, we didnt win **** all on the pitch". And you can then lay the blame firmly at the feet of the Premier League, and the Financial Fair Play rules. Unless we get into the Champions League this season, in which case the FFP is the greatest thing ever. *Hastily pulls up ladder* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 Would you rather finish top four on this list, or 34th and a cup run? False dichotomy, not mutually exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 False dichotomy, not mutually exclusive. Basically a much better way of saying what I was trying to say. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint George Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 These figures are a reflection of Cortese's input over the last 5 years So i guess the boy did good after all. The current lot are still feeding off Cortese's legacy atm and will be judged over the next five years. So lets see if they can stand on their own two feet and continue the upward trajectory without selling the rest of our hard earned assets.....Continuing to bleed key members of staff is not a good start but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 These figures are a reflection of Cortese's input over the last 5 years So i guess the boy did good after all. The current lot are still feeding off Cortese's legacy atm and will be judged over the next five years. So lets see if they can stand on their own two feet and continue the upward trajectory without selling the rest of our hard earned assets.....Continuing to bleed key members of staff is not a good start but we'll see. 5/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 5/10. Bit generous CB. I'd go for a 2/10 personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 Whilst this is true one look at our commercial income on previous years shows that we haven't been taking advantage of our success on the pitch. In our first season back in the premier league it was normal for half the corporate boxes to be empty and this was reflected in the figures, with premier league saints having commercial income lower than championship clubs like Watford. Of course the more successful sides will attract the biggest sponsors but we were failing spectacularly off the pitch. It's good to see we have people in place now who recognise that and are doing something about it. half of them are empty this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 December, 2014 Author Share Posted 8 December, 2014 half of them are empty this season It's going to take a while to repair the damage that was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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