angelman Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 Possibly but the money he could get elsewhere is far beyond what we could offer regardless. Possibly, but so be it. You can't run a club our size by paying all the players 6 figure weekly salaries. We can though compete with other clubs outside of the top lot, although how Sunderland & QPR can "afford" £80/100k weekly wages is anyone's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 Possibly but the money he could get elsewhere is far beyond what we could offer regardless. April will eventually be the end of the season and its a little like the Pochettino situation. The Club won't publically say he won't sign a contract but they will all know the realities. But if we make the champions league he could have it both ways. Play for us next year and refuse to sign a contract but refuse to agree to a transfer. He could then go anywhere on a Bosman in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 But if we make the champions league he could have it both ways. Play for us next year and refuse to sign a contract but refuse to agree to a transfer. He could then go anywhere on a Bosman in 2016. he could, would be a pretty ****ish thing to do and you have o hope he has more respect for the club than that but it is a risk in modern football. Even if he does walk away for free he has been incredible value for money and a decent servant of the club during his time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 But if we make the champions league he could have it both ways. Play for us next year and refuse to sign a contract but refuse to agree to a transfer. He could then go anywhere on a Bosman in 2016. don't think many footballers think that way, why play for 25K a week when you can play for 80K a week, career is short and often unpredictable...like JRod, so cash in on it when you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 don't think many footballers think that way these days, why play for 25K a week when you can play for 80K a week, career is short and often unpredictable...like JRod, so cash in on it when you can. Edited for you. Oh for MLT logic, "I am paid very well and I am very happy. How much more money do you need to be happy?". Oh misty eyed days.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 he could, would be a pretty ****ish thing to do and you have o hope he has more respect for the club than that but it is a risk in modern football. Even if he does walk away for free he has been incredible value for money and a decent servant of the club during his time here. is that not what he did to palace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 is that not what he did to palace? And this exactly why I find it hard to get as enthusiastic about football as some posters on here. The team, all of them, and mercenaries and not loyal to the club no matter how much badge kissing they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 League position will affect wage structure, potential bonuses, competition appearance fees and the like. I think he'll leave, be it this summer or next, but I can see why it makes sense to wait. This season, more than ever, is crucial in terms of seeing where our wage structure will stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 I expect him to go at the end of this season. We could do without too much speculation and uncertainty as we enter the last couple of months though, pushing for a European spot etc, don't really want the focus to be on will he/won't he stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 Players come, players go. Did you know there isn't a single one left from when I started supporting Saints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 he could, would be a pretty ****ish thing to do and you have o hope he has more respect for the club than that but it is a risk in modern football. Even if he does walk away for free he has been incredible value for money and a decent servant of the club during his time here. I don't agree. It would be inconvenient for our club, but he signed a four year contract. There is nothing wrong with fulfilling that contract and then looking for a new contract with whomever. He has no moral obligation to allow Southampton to gather the financial benefit of his future playing efforts. He is entitled to keep them to himself by signing on a free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 No Redslo, that will not fly! He has no legal obligation, it's true, but we certainly ought to get angry should the situation arise! It's like say if you bought a vibrating dildo, and exactly one day after expiration of the warranty period the vibrate function of the dildo stopped working, rendering the dildo effectively worthless. You would be pretty angry right? And frustrated? Even though your dildo is legally entitled to quit working after 366 days, you will be morally outraged, even when you recall, lest we forget, that this is exactly how you acquired a discount dildo in the first place (I mean, if Clyne is the dildo, and the Sex Shop is Crystal Palace, which tbf it pretty much is. It's a metaphor.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 No Redslo, that will not fly! He has no legal obligation, it's true, but we certainly ought to get angry should the situation arise! It's like say if you bought a vibrating dildo, and exactly one day after expiration of the warranty period the vibrate function of the dildo stopped working, rendering the dildo effectively worthless. You would be pretty angry right? And frustrated? Even though your dildo is legally entitled to quit working after 366 days, you will be morally outraged, even when you recall, lest we forget, that this is exactly how you acquired a discount dildo in the first place (I mean, if Clyne is the dildo, and the Sex Shop is Crystal Palace, which tbf it pretty much is. It's a metaphor.) I view it more like renting a room at a cheap motel for two hours and then deciding I wanted to rent it for another hour only to be told that it is not available but I can rent a different room. That is the better metaphor. No wait. That is an analogy. Nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 I view it more like renting a room at a cheap motel for two hours and then deciding I wanted to rent it for another hour only to be told that it is not available but I can rent a different room. That is the better metaphor. No wait. That is an analogy. Nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 Not Clyne related as such but brilliant interview with Delph on 5 Live saying that he loves it at Villa, has great relationship with everyone at the Club and after the injury troubles he had he felt he owed it to Villa to stay. Said he would have been embarassed to leave for free after everything they invested in him. Made me think of Jay Rod really. Came across brilliantly and sounded very genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 Not Clyne related as such but brilliant interview with Delph on 5 Live saying that he loves it at Villa, has great relationship with everyone at the Club and after the injury troubles he had he felt he owed it to Villa to stay. Said he would have been embarassed to leave for free after everything they invested in him. Made me think of Jay Rod really. Came across brilliantly and sounded very genuine. It means nothing what so ever. Look at Lallana's interview a year before he left. Load of fan pandering media tosh, that's all it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 Oh, I don't think so, I'm v.surprised Delph signed new contract, he didn't need to do that. Being more clear sighted in his case than perhaps I am with Clyne, no-one could blame him for taking easy route out of Villa, being the way they are at the mo. Fair play to him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 It means nothing what so ever. Look at Lallana's interview a year before he left. Load of fan pandering media tosh, that's all it is Wrong. Means that at the least, Villa will get a very decent fee if he leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 It means nothing what so ever. Look at Lallana's interview a year before he left. Load of fan pandering media tosh, that's all it is A bit different: Lallana probably meant what he said, partly because he couldn't have dreamed of a big move 20 months ago whereas Delph has been playing consistently well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 A bit different: Lallana probably meant what he said, partly because he couldn't have dreamed of a big move 20 months ago whereas Delph has been playing consistently well. This. In that interview Lallana only said that if he spent the rest of his career at SFC he'd be happy. Doesn't actually mean that was the only scenario where he could be happy. Like, say, Jason Dodd, if no big moves materialised he would have happily stayed. He didn't handle his departure particularly well in the summer, but I think the spirit of that interview back then was perfectly genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 As long as we talk vaguely about "dreams " and "ambition" he will definitely stay. That's all you need. You mean that when we qualify for the Champions League we must have the ambition to win it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 Players come, players go. Did you know there isn't a single one left from when I started supporting Saints? Same with me. Mind Terry Paine did get a suite named after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 26 January, 2015 Share Posted 26 January, 2015 Players come, players go. Did you know there isn't a single one left from when I started supporting Saints? I guess that is an advantage I have as a recent convert. You mean that when we qualify for the Champions League we must have the ambition to win it? Sure, why not. At least we should have the ambition to get out of the group phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 Same with me. Mind Terry Paine did get a suite named after him. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't 'Nasty Nic' change it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 January, 2015 Share Posted 29 January, 2015 (edited) Mirror's top United guy says they are confident of signing Clyne in the summer. I would imagine its fairly well placed confidence tbh. Would hope we didn't start talks when Koeman said but instead quite a while before that (a year or so back) but with all that was happening then at the club, it wouldnt suprise me and once Utd come calling arguably makes little difference. Would be a shame to only get half the we fee we got for Shaw though. Clyne is a £20m plus quality player. Edited 29 January, 2015 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 29 January, 2015 Share Posted 29 January, 2015 This. In that interview Lallana only said that if he spent the rest of his career at SFC he'd be happy. Doesn't actually mean that was the only scenario where he could be happy. Like, say, Jason Dodd, if no big moves materialised he would have happily stayed. He didn't handle his departure particularly well in the summer, but I think the spirit of that interview back then was perfectly genuine. On this, my dear Fry, I entirely agree with you. Then he played for England and suddenly the A34 was paved with gold. I fear the same thing may happen with Clyne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 30 January, 2015 Share Posted 30 January, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31064389 [h=1]Nathaniel Clyne: No Man Utd offer for right-back - Ronald Koeman[/h]Southampton manager Ronald Koeman says the club have not received any enquiries from Manchester United for right-back Nathaniel Clyne. Clyne is out of contract in 18 months and has been linked with a move to Old Trafford. Saints are still in talks with the England defender over a new contract and Koeman said United had not contacted them about the 23-year-old. "A lot of rumours, but no bids into the club for Clyne," Koeman said. "There is no news at the moment on a new contract. The club is still in talks to keep the player." Southampton are poised to lose midfielder Jack Cork to Swansea after the clubs agreed a fee for the 25-year-old, who is out of contract at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 30 January, 2015 Share Posted 30 January, 2015 And this exactly why I find it hard to get as enthusiastic about football as some posters on here. The team, all of them, and mercenaries and not loyal to the club no matter how much badge kissing they do On the other hand who is loyal to the players apart from their agents, certainly not the club. Fans aren't either that's for sure, just look at the reaction to Cork leaving. Face up to it, we've dumped loads of really good loyal players on the way up the leagues during the past five years, who probably would have loved to stay here. Let's see, we still retain Davis, Fonte and Schneiderlin from a squad of what 24 or so back then... pots & kettles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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