Plumstead_Saint Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/05/louis-van-gaal-southampton-ronald-koeman-manchester-united Van Gaal then claimed some of the opposition could have been at Old Trafford by now, in addition to the £28m summer signing Luke Shaw. “They have a very good squad. I know a lot of players and a lot of players were offered to us.” Is he talking out his *rse or do you think anyone was touted to United [apart from Osvaldo or Ramirez]? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 "A decade after falling out with Ronald Koeman at Ajax...." He's a bit bitter by the sounds of it, so I wouldn't think very reliable.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 No idea but that's a touch of the SAF mind bo****ks right there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Surely he means some of the players we bought, probably Toby or Tadic etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Whether current or former players he's probably referring to agents "offering" their players rather than the club. You can be sure Morgan's agent, for example, is on the phone to every big club in Europe seeing who might be interested in signing him in January or the summer. That's his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Offered by their agents, I expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 6 December, 2014 Author Share Posted 6 December, 2014 No idea but that's a touch of the SAF mind bo****ks right there That's what I thought too. In the words of Kevin Keegan... "I will LOVE IT if we beat them" Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Dodged a bullet with Lovren, Louis.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 What a knob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Mayuka and Gazzaniga, I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Mayuka and Gazzaniga, I hope. Hope is a wonderful thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Do the two sentences really begin together and refer to the same thing, ie, our players ? that second sentence taken on its own could refer to knowing players all over the world etc Journalistic mischief making or the real meaning lost in translation perhaps ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 He comes across as a right disrespectful tosser in that interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Surely he means some of the players we bought, probably Toby or Tadic etc? Thats how i read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Always thought him to be an utter helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 probably pelle, tadic etc maybe even toby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 I struggled through the LvG autobiography on holiday this summer. What a bore, so far up his own and very inflexible tactically and in his man management. RK certainly won their dual when at Ajax and maybe is a better tactician and man manager anyway.Unfortunately our man just spends too much time getting on with the job rather than wallowing in the glory of it all ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Mayuka and Gazzaniga, I hope. On my FM save last year, Barcelona bought Gazzaniga for £2M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Who cares, flogging a load of overpriced sh!te is what built the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Who cares, flogging a load of overpriced sh!te is what built the team. for united? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 All hot air, before the game. We will beat his boys on Monday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Wouldn't pay any attention to it, it's just boring and a waste of time even contemplating what he's supposed to have said. He's dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Anyone who signs for us would have been touted round every other big club. I am sure Koeman gets calls and emails and DVDs about players who aren't good enough for us, so why wouldn't a broker or agent connected to, say, Tadic tout him to Man United, City and Chelsea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Our man comes out pretty well in this: http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/louis-van-gaal-vs-ronald-koeman-history-dutch-beef-and-bickering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 Tosser. Hope we win by a few and he can then moan about our players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 PL is better for having arrogant 'characters' such as LVG a though. Don't need to like him but his press conferences are value and the man has presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 I want to find out whether there will be wine shared or not. Was the tiny room at Liverpool? from Mirror: Koeman added: “One of the *traditions in England is, that when you play at home, you invite the opposition manager for a drink. “I love that kind of thing. It made me smile the first time I was invited into a tiny little room with no space at all. The idea to offer the other manager a glass of wine is wonderful. It is part of English football and I have made it part of my routine.” Yet...(from Guardian) Van Gaal says he will be happy to shake Koeman’s hand – “That will not be a problem” – but doubts if he will join him later for a drink because he will probably not get the opportunity. “I have heard of this English custom but I don’t know where managers find the time,” he said. “On matchdays I am talking to the press before and after the game and in between I am talking to my players. I managed to have a chat with Mark Hughes’s assistants after the last game against Stoke but Mark Hughes himself was speaking to the press and then I had to do the same. On matchdays I rarely get the time to talk to opposing managers.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/05/louis-van-gaal-southampton-ronald-koeman-manchester-united Van Gaal then claimed some of the opposition could have been at Old Trafford by now, in addition to the £28m summer signing Luke Shaw. “They have a very good squad. I know a lot of players and a lot of players were offered to us.” Is he talking out his *rse or do you think anyone was touted to United [apart from Osvaldo or Ramirez]? I would assume he means offered by agents or, perhaps, was referring to lallana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 And one of theirs were offered to us. Meh. Agents wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't try to get their player a move to Manu. Doesn't mean the club were looking to offload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 Surely he means some of the players we bought, probably Toby or Tadic etc? That's how I took it as he was also discussing how Man U have to pay over the odds for the same players because of their name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 Our man comes out pretty well in this: http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/louis-van-gaal-vs-ronald-koeman-history-dutch-beef-and-bickering I'm not normally one for gossip, but that makes a fascinating read! Go, Ronald Koeman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 The bloke is a freaky looking cretin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 December, 2014 Share Posted 7 December, 2014 LVG praises Pelle in the paper today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 Another comparison article http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11278835/Southampton-v-Manchester-United-Bitter-Dutch-feud-between-Louis-van-Gaal-and-Ronald-Koeman-still-going.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 Another comparison article http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11278835/Southampton-v-Manchester-United-Bitter-Dutch-feud-between-Louis-van-Gaal-and-Ronald-Koeman-still-going.html Blimey, that Ajax situation sounds horrendous. This is intriguing though... Might it boil over again? According to Mossou, there is a lot more to both men than English football has seen so far. “Koeman seems to be quite neutral and polite. Which is quite smart, because he doesn’t yet have the knowledge to use the media. In Holland, he played his mind games through the media. “Van Gaal is a more extreme character than Koeman. But Koeman is also a street-fighter. He likes a little bit of a fight in the media. Van Gaal is a guy who fights with the media, but he doesn’t use the media to fight. That’s the difference.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 The background between the two managers is a godsend to the media, especially as it also involves the biggest club in British football. The feud between Van Gaal and Koeman might have died down over the years, but it suits the media to give the embers a good raking to add spice to the fixture tonight. This is also naturally the reason for the match being moved to tonight for Sky, who would like nothing better than for the two managers to get hot under the collar with each other and in the best case scenario for them, come to blows. What they don't want is a low score bore-draw, a conciliatory handshake and mutual appreciation in the post-match interviews. So some of our players could have gone to Manchester United? What a revelation that they could have gone there, to arguably the top glory club in the World, where they would earn themselves several times more dosh than here. In reality, this is just Van Gaal's alternative version of how much bigger his house in the Algarve is than Koeman's. Effectively it is his little bit of pre-match psychology, he could have had any of our players, but they weren't good enough for them. It really would be great if we could stuff them and their control-freak knob of a manager, but I suspect that crucial injuries to our key midfield players will have hampered our chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 What ever row they had, surely their relationship is a great deal better now. They had to deal with each other a great deal last season, leading up to the world cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 December, 2014 Share Posted 8 December, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/05/louis-van-gaal-southampton-ronald-koeman-manchester-united Van Gaal then claimed some of the opposition could have been at Old Trafford by now, in addition to the £28m summer signing Luke Shaw. “They have a very good squad. I know a lot of players and a lot of players were offered to us.” Is he talking out his *rse or do you think anyone was touted to United [apart from Osvaldo or Ramirez]? How strange that this story appears right before we play them. I really don't get how these kind of mind games are supposed to work, they don't demean the opposition, they don't weaken the players, who either think "that's wrong" if they weren't liked or are likely to be happy with the decision they've made anyway given our position. It doesn't put it in their mind that they might like to play for Man U, either. It's just pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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