nta786 Posted 14 January, 2015 Share Posted 14 January, 2015 Tyrone Mings may be worth a shout at the end of the season IF Ipswich don't go up? Not tall enough The BBC as well as other media sources always tell say we released him because he was too short, but in 'The Southampton Way', we said we look at both technical and ohysical attributes?? Unless 6 years ago we only cared about physical players lool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 Tyrone Mings may be worth a shout at the end of the season IF Ipswich don't go up? No thanks, dirty little player. Kicked out at Forster after he claimed the ball and once again on another player. Mark Lawrenson found it very amusing, but I sure didn't. Guys a tosser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 Not tall enough The BBC as well as other media sources always tell say we released him because he was too short, but in 'The Southampton Way', we said we look at both technical and ohysical attributes?? Unless 6 years ago we only cared about physical players lool It's b*llocks mate, he probably just tells everyone it was because of his height when in reality he either wasn't good enough or didn't have the right attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 It's b*llocks mate, he probably just tells everyone it was because of his height when in reality he either wasn't good enough or didn't have the right attitude. Yeah, he would have had Shaw and Targett to compete against as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 (edited) Not tall enough The BBC as well as other media sources always tell say we released him because he was too short, but in 'The Southampton Way', we said we look at both technical and ohysical attributes?? Unless 6 years ago we only cared about physical players lool Ever thought we might be speaking horse****. Remember we almost released Oxo for being too small. It's a good soundbite but wouldn't be surprised if we do place as much emphasis on physical attributes as others and our selection criteria are pretty similar to other clubs rather than some sui generis, lightening in a bottle southampton way. Edited 15 January, 2015 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 I thought he was quite good. Man Utd keen apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 Mings did very little last night to suggest that he would be an improvement on what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 It's b*llocks mate, he probably just tells everyone it was because of his height when in reality he either wasn't good enough or didn't have the right attitude. ****ing wound me up last night. Kept banging on about it while HR was on the pitch, disproving their point. I also know that clubs are more scientific than that, I don't believe he could get to the size he is now without the club having some sort of idea. One of my lads was at a pro club for a while when he was 9. He was quite small for a goal keeper. But even at that age, they measured him, weighed him, and all sorts. Told me he'd be 6ft by the time he left school and they were right. I seem to remember something about the size of his knees and feet was one clue, if my memory serves. Anyway, he wasnt good enough, and I doubt this lad was either. I doubt clubs realise players for being too small any more. Slightly off subject , but was the commentator related to Shane long , he had a serious man crush otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 It may well be something along the lines of a footballing Godwin's law, but when people talk about players being too short all I can think of is this guy (5"6): Granted it may be a bit different for defenders instead of attackers. Ultimately, it's talent not physical stature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 Not been impressed with Mings. Was chatting to some Ipswich fans before the game last night, and they said if they can get £10m for him, then get rid. Seems very leggy to me without great technical ability, however if this can be trained into him, then I can see him being a decent player. At the moment though, not good enough to play in the Prem IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 Strange but I thought Mings was giving Clyne a real challenge last night. Can't say I've seen to many players worry Clyne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 Anders Lindegaard from Manure for 'keeper backup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 Anders Lindegaard from Manure for 'keeper backup? He's leaving because he wants first time football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 He's leaving because he wants first time football. I'm sure he's played before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 Daily Star reporting Virgil van Dijk is asking Saints to come and get him. Convinced he would make a terrific addition to the squad. There were rumours he and Pelle had issues at Feyenoord which may have Koeman reluctant to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 (edited) Daily Star reporting Virgil van Dijk is asking Saints to come and get him. Convinced he would make a terrific addition to the squad. There were rumours he and Pelle had issues at Feyenoord which may have Koeman reluctant to sign him. van Dijk hasn't played for Feyenoord. Do you mean when they've played against each other? Pelle gives van Dijk a compliment in this article by saying he is the only good defender in the Dutch League... http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/5619/Feyenoord/article/detail/3422916/2013/04/09/Pelle-In-Nederland-heb-ik-het-alleen-moeilijk-tegen-Van-Dijk.dhtml&prev=search Edited 16 January, 2015 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Daily Star reporting Virgil van Dijk is asking Saints to come and get him. Convinced he would make a terrific addition to the squad. There were rumours he and Pelle had issues at Feyenoord which may have Koeman reluctant to sign him. You're thinking of De Vrij. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Better start looking for a new right back if reports of Clyne to Utd are true. Cant say anyone really jumps out in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Better start looking for a new right back if reports of Clyne to Utd are true. Cant say anyone really jumps out in that position. He won't go this window,nor Morgan but I am sure the Club are well aware they will need to replace and will be looking at options already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Malvo Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30834875 Be nice to get one of these two in. In glimpses have looked good but the pressure pot of playing for a top club in a transition stage is affecting them a fair bit. Think McNair would be the better shout. Right training and environment could suit them and us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Jermain Defoe's gone to Sunderland. Drat. i would have like him at Saints, despite his previous at Spurs (the worst club in the world). he would have scored the league goals that Long doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Jermain Defoe's gone to Sunderland. Drat. i would have like him at Saints, despite his previous at Spurs (the worst club in the world). he would have scored the league goals that Long doesn't. You realise that he is being paid EIGHTY THOUSAND POUNDS A WEEK for 3 and a half years despite his record in his last 30 PL games being 3 goals 1 assist, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Jermain Defoe's gone to Sunderland. Drat. i would have like him at Saints, despite his previous at Spurs (the worst club in the world). he would have scored the league goals that Long doesn't. Massively overrated and smacks of desperation from Poyet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Massively overrated and smacks of desperation from Poyet. I have to say his loan spell at Bournemouth was impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 You realise that he is being paid EIGHTY THOUSAND POUNDS A WEEK for 3 and a half years despite his record in his last 30 PL games being 3 goals 1 assist, right? For 3 and a half years too. He'll be 36 by the end of his contract. For a player whose game has always been pace related, that is a giant risk by Poyet. I hope they gave him a relegation release clause... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 For 3 and a half years too. He'll be 36 by the end of his contract. For a player whose game has always been pace related, that is a giant risk by Poyet. I hope they gave him a relegation release clause... Why? Personally I couldn't give a f*ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 You realise that he is being paid EIGHTY THOUSAND POUNDS A WEEK for 3 and a half years despite his record in his last 30 PL games being 3 goals 1 assist, right? Also, he really is the clichéd "if he isn't scoring he offers nothing" type striker. Not saying he's a bad player, but if goals dry up he brings little else. Our success so far this season has very much been about the team. Pellè may not be the most prolific, but you cannot knock the guys endeavour. I'm unsure you'd get that from Defoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Big Vic linked with Fiorentina: http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/transfers/fiorentina-contact-victor-wanyamas-agent-to-sign-the-southampton-star-this-january-nairobi-news/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 You realise that he is being paid EIGHTY THOUSAND POUNDS A WEEK for 3 and a half years despite his record in his last 30 PL games being 3 goals 1 assist, right? And the fact that he doesnt fit the system ?! And the fact that Long is employed on the right due to his workrate and not to score goals ? Unfortunately DT just doesnt get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Maybe we should have thought about that before getting rid of him. ..think he was about a foot shorter at that time.....and was a late developer (as was Gareth Bale). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 You realise that he is being paid EIGHTY THOUSAND POUNDS A WEEK for 3 and a half years despite his record in his last 30 PL games being 3 goals 1 assist, right? .......if that doesn't bankrupt Sunderland - nothing will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 You realise that he is being paid EIGHTY THOUSAND POUNDS A WEEK for 3 and a half years despite his record in his last 30 PL games being 3 goals 1 assist, right? If that is true it's utter madness and I'm glad we haven't gone near it, deals like that put clubs to the wall. I wander if they have anyone already at the club with a clause in their contract to match their wages to the highest earner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Daily Star reporting Virgil van Dijk is asking Saints to come and get him. Convinced he would make a terrific addition to the squad. There were rumours he and Pelle had issues at Feyenoord which may have Koeman reluctant to sign him. Would you want to be playing Championship football next year? Exactly! For him the best options here are ManUre or Us with Dutch managers and playing philosophy but where would he fit in? If Toby leaves then "maybe" but if Toby signs a new deal and with Yoshi and Gardos up to speed, where's the space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Not tall enough The BBC as well as other media sources always tell say we released him because he was too short, but in 'The Southampton Way', we said we look at both technical and ohysical attributes?? Unless 6 years ago we only cared about physical players lool Yes, I wonder what have could have prompted such short sighted thinking.... http://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/apr/02/southampton-leisure-holdings-administration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 I've always thought Defoe was a good player, barring his brain-dead decision to go to the few. Maybe it's psychological warfare. Instead of laughing your arse off at having to play against Altidonkey, you have to think twice because they've got Defoe instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 And the fact that he doesnt fit the system ?! And the fact that Long is employed on the right due to his workrate and not to score goals ? Unfortunately DT just doesnt get it Ah yes, the master plan. Playing a striker 'not to score goals'. 'So, Shane, what I want you to do is go on, run around a lot, but do not score goals' 'Sorry boss?' 'Do not score goals' 'Oh. Right.' You're right. I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 You realise that he is being paid EIGHTY THOUSAND POUNDS A WEEK for 3 and a half years despite his record in his last 30 PL games being 3 goals 1 assist, right? I didn't realise that and it is indeed ridiculous. Personally (everyone hear that?) I wouldn't have minded him as a cheapie option to play off Pelle when the need arose. This is an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 (edited) You realise that he is being paid EIGHTY THOUSAND POUNDS A WEEK for 3 and a half years despite his record in his last 30 PL games being 3 goals 1 assist, right? I heard the contract length just now on five live and blurted out a "effing hell" at the radio. But eighty grand a week. It gets better. Don't go getting relegated, will you Sunderland? Edited 16 January, 2015 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 I hear Defoe's getting £70k a week. Still utter madness though at his age. I wonder how much Altidore was on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 You're thinking of De Vrij. You're quite right. De Vrij lost the captains armband to Pelle at Feyenoord and didn't have much love for one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Ah yes, the master plan. Playing a striker 'not to score goals'. 'So, Shane, what I want you to do is go on, run around a lot, but do not score goals' 'Sorry boss?' 'Do not score goals' 'Oh. Right.' You're right. I don't get it. No No you dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 16 January, 2015 Share Posted 16 January, 2015 Big Vic linked with Fiorentina: http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/transfers/fiorentina-contact-victor-wanyamas-agent-to-sign-the-southampton-star-this-january-nairobi-news/? This makes no sense. Fiorentina is less likely to make the Champions League and has a lot less money than we do to pay higher wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 17 January, 2015 Share Posted 17 January, 2015 So what do we need to bring in, in the transfer window, to hold this 3rd place untl the end of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 17 January, 2015 Share Posted 17 January, 2015 So what do we need to bring in' date=' in the transfer window, to hold this 3rd place untl the end of the season?[/quote'] When all fit we have more than enough quality to give any team in this league...however we do not know who may get injured between now and May. I would say we need a back up keeper (easier said than done ) I would like to see a more direct ST as a option for Pelle,Ings has looked a real handful for Burnley when I have seen him Other than that it's really hard to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 17 January, 2015 Share Posted 17 January, 2015 Still think we need a striker. I've heard Dybala linked to other big clubs this January. I hope we're still interested. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?52226-Saints-interested-in-Paulo-Dybala-says-the-Mirror&highlight=Dybala#.VLre0ScgGSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 17 January, 2015 Share Posted 17 January, 2015 Still think we need a striker. I've heard Dybala linked to other big clubs this January. I hope we're still interested. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?52226-Saints-interested-in-Paulo-Dybala-says-the-Mirror&highlight=Dybala#.VLre0ScgGSN Sure I read they slapped a £30m price tag on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 We need a striker if we are going to make the top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Not been linked with anyone for a while in the papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 18 January, 2015 Share Posted 18 January, 2015 Sure I read they slapped a £30m price tag on him Palermo's president has always been unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 19 January, 2015 Share Posted 19 January, 2015 Any rumours floating about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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