Saint-Armstrong Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 But would you give him a new contract? http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/11638280.Yoshida_wants_Saints_stay_as_contract_nears_expiry/?ref=twtrec Poll perhaps, mods?
richard Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 “Yes, because this training ground is fantastic, the stadium is fantastic, I love the city as well, my wife is satisfied, so if I play every week there is not any problem. The problem is I didn’t play long time now. " Sly old dog
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 Would be surprised if he got a new deal. Even if Alderweireld doesn't sign I wouldn't expect the club to offer him a new deal. His role could / should be fulfilled by Stephens or Turnbull next season.
Saxon Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 If he is happy to stay, keep him. Has been good for us this season. Fonte and Yosh have done it together plenty of times so if he has to slot in, its not unfamiliar.
sadoldgit Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 We tend to give away goals when he plays. Not convinced he is good enough at this level.
Scummer Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 I don't really read that as him wanting to stay. He wants to stay if he's a regular in the team, but he's not a regular and he's not likely to be.
doddisalegend Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 If we get Europa this season he can be a Thursday team player.
Bucks Saint Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 Maybe if we no alternative ready as 4th choice, and its at the right cost. Prefer Gardos as 3rd choice and its possible RK might be thinking the same, given how Yoshi has not featured in the league cup. The woeful turning his back bit on Sunday will not help his cause sadly.
Turkish Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 He's decent as third or 4th choice centre back, not good enough for first choice for a top half team. So yes, on that basis
RobM Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 I'd keep him if the deal was right, but Gardos must be wondering what he has to do to get a game if Yoshida is coming off the bench ahead of him.
CityRanger Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 If he gets a new deal I'm worried about our club. Absolutely useless. Heavily responsible for our drop off in results when he came into the side last season. A fraud of a player. Hides on the pitch. Loses the plot, I really don't rate him. 45 mins of Maya on the pitch Sunday and we'd conceded half as many goals as we have all season. I'm staggered he survived the summer tbh. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Sour Mash Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 If he gets a new deal I'm worried about our club. Absolutely useless. Heavily responsible for our drop off in results when he came into the side last season. A fraud of a player. Hides on the pitch. Loses the plot, I really don't rate him. 45 mins of Maya on the pitch Sunday and we'd conceded half as many goals as we have all season. I'm staggered he survived the summer tbh. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Not a fan? Yoshida played well for us for the first few weeks of the season before Alderweireld came in. I wouldn't want him to start for us, but if you believe we can get much better to sit on our bench, you're wrong.
simo Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 Nope not good enough to be blocking the paths of any of our youngsters any longer
the saint in winchester Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 I'd keep him if the deal was right, but Gardos must be wondering what he has to do to get a game if Yoshida is coming off the bench ahead of him. I thought that on Sunday and think it now. Have we really brought Gardos to be 2nd reserve CB?
Sour Mash Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 I thought that on Sunday and think it now. Have we really brought Gardos to be 2nd reserve CB? I assume Koeman looked at the Man City attack and thought that a CB with a bit of pace (Yoshida) would be better to deal with their attacks than one who might be more suited to a team knocking it long (Gardos)? Plus Gardos struggled a bit at Stoke in the cup, whereas Yoshida has been quite good when he is has played so far this year.
Bucks Saint Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 To be fair to Gardos, while he made 2 errors at Stoke, these were late on and he was good prior to that with their physical attack. He was also very good against Sanchez, Poldolski etc at Arsenal. Yoshi has made plenty of errors, including on Sunday. I agree that RK probably picked him at HT on Sunday for his better pace. But as I said, the fact that he has not featured in league or league cup since the new signings arrived says quite a lot
Sour Mash Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 To be fair to Gardos, while he made 2 errors at Stoke, these were late on and he was good prior to that with their physical attack. He was also very good against Sanchez, Poldolski etc at Arsenal. Yoshi has made plenty of errors, including on Sunday. I agree that RK probably picked him at HT on Sunday for his better pace. But as I said, the fact that he has not featured in league or league cup since the new signings arrived says quite a lot He has featured though. He started at Swansea with Gardos on the bench for example.
Bucks Saint Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 He has featured though. He started at Swansea with Gardos on the bench for example. Ok but Gardos replaced him at half time at Swansea, with Toby missing. Since then, Gardos has played in two league cup matches ahead of him
Bad Wolf Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 As long as he's happy to be a squad rotation player then I'd certainly keep him. Very handy CB and adds to the squad depth.
Sour Mash Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 Ok but Gardos replaced him at half time at Swansea, with Toby missing. Since then, Gardos has played in two league cup matches ahead of him Because Yoshida was injured at Swansea and still out injured against Arsenal.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 He's OK , not as bad as some make out. What standard of player do people really expect to be 3rd or 4th centre half for Southampton? The toughest position for a youngster to slot into , you'll always need experienced back ups . As Ron was a world class centre half himself hes pretty qualified to make the right decision.
VectisSaint Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 If he gets a new deal I'm worried about our club. Absolutely useless. Heavily responsible for our drop off in results when he came into the side last season. A fraud of a player. Hides on the pitch. Loses the plot, I really don't rate him. 45 mins of Maya on the pitch Sunday and we'd conceded half as many goals as we have all season. I'm staggered he survived the summer tbh. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk You do know who Yoshida is I take it? Your response would indicate otherwise. There is a picture of him on the Echo report if you need help with his identification. Blaming him for 3 goals on Sunday is just plain stupid. He is just what we need in a squad where we need 4 good CBs with two able to come in seamlessly in case of a problem with either of our first choices. And if Toby does not sign on again who knows whether Yoshida may be first choice again next season. the question is though whether Turnbull and/or Stephens might be ready, the rest of this season in L1 with Swindon might mean one or both can make the step up, but difficult to judge. Yoshida is still a better option than Gardos from the evidence (of Gardos, admittedly very little) so far.
hasper57saint Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 Maybe if we no alternative ready as 4th choice, and its at the right cost. Prefer Gardos as 3rd choice and its possible RK might be thinking the same, given how Yoshi has not featured in the league cup. The woeful turning his back bit on Sunday will not help his cause sadly. I have reservations about his capabilities at PL level. It's not the first time he's turned his back on the incoming ball.
LeTissLeGod Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 Absolutely not. 6 goals conceded with him playing, only 3 when he's not. Always backs away from strikers allowing them to shoot. Great servant to the club but just not good enough at this level.
WealdSaint Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 If we have ambition to play in Europe we will need a bigger squad. By all accounts he fits in well with the other players and provides an interest for our friends from Japan. Sign him up..IMHO
Bucks Saint Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 . Yoshida is still a better option than Gardos from the evidence (of Gardos, admittedly very little) so far. Gardos was very good at Arsenal, dont recall a problem 2nd half at Swansea and was good at Stoke for most of the game. Yes he made two errors, one of which was a slip which nearly cost us, but didnt thanks to Fonte. Yoshi has made many errors in his previous games including a bad one which seems to be a trait on Sunday. Harsh for those to say Gardos "had a mare" at Stoke but think Yoshi did very well against City. Incidentally, Davis made an error by switching off at Stoke which led to their 1st goal, and lost the ball against City which again led to a goal. He is a great player but even he makes mistakes
david in sweden Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 I don't know what his best position is? - don't say on the bench anyone , but he always seems to be put in when someone else is injured, and often ends up at full back....or " wrong-sided CB ". I can't see him being re-signed as there must be other names on " The List " that would be a better bet. Pity because he seems a personable sort of guy and always does his best.
Batman Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 when a player does not want to sign a new contract. He is in for some serious shyte/abuse etc when a player wants to stay and he is not top notch......well.....
sadoldgit Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 Not really surprising though is it if we want the best squad we can get?
Plumstead_Saint Posted 2 December, 2014 Posted 2 December, 2014 He's better than Gardos, and RK agrees as team choices show. Keep him as 3rd choice for now.
CylonKing Posted 3 December, 2014 Posted 3 December, 2014 He is a full international player with lots of experience. He has had some great games for us and is a very useful squad player. At the beginning of this season he was excellent when playing. I remember many comments from posters saying he had improved so much since last season. I think we'd be stupid to let him go to be honest.
Professor Posted 3 December, 2014 Posted 3 December, 2014 He's better than Gardos, and RK agrees as team choices show. Keep him as 3rd choice for now. I'd thought Gardos was our 3rd choice CB but not so sure now because Koeman brought Yoshida on as sub against Man City despite having Gardos on the bench.
Bucks Saint Posted 3 December, 2014 Posted 3 December, 2014 I'd thought Gardos was our 3rd choice CB but not so sure now because Koeman brought Yoshida on as sub against Man City despite having Gardos on the bench. Brought him on for his pace. Gardos better suited to a big front man. Still think Gardos is 3rd choice personally but will use players for different situations.
shurlock Posted 3 December, 2014 Posted 3 December, 2014 Brought him on for his pace. Gardos better suited to a big front man. Still think Gardos is 3rd choice personally but will use players for different situations. Gardos has not proven anything yet-whether he can deal with pace or physicality; whereas Yoshida has been a safe pair of hands whenever called upon. Cant ask for too much more a back-up.
davefizzy14 Posted 3 December, 2014 Posted 3 December, 2014 Absolute no-brainer for me. Maya has always been a solid defender for us. Started this season very well. We need that strength in depth in the squad which RK has been talking about.
farawaysaint Posted 3 December, 2014 Posted 3 December, 2014 Give him a contract, a solid premier league quality defender.
david in sweden Posted 4 December, 2014 Posted 4 December, 2014 At present, Koeman seems to prefer him to Gardos ??? Of course only being " an occasional player /sub " doesn't help with consistancy, but previously he hasn't over-impressed and has been caught out of position. Something he has in common with Jos H. However, even if he does become the obvious sub. yet doesn't become " a regular" we may find that Koeman will keep him ...just for that reason. But still think we should try to find someone else, too.
Saint_clark Posted 4 December, 2014 Posted 4 December, 2014 Brought him on for his pace. Gardos better suited to a big front man. Still think Gardos is 3rd choice personally but will use players for different situations. Pointless having Gardos then if that's the case, how many teams have no pace in their attack? I think it's the easy option to say that. Not forgetting of course that it could be argued Welbeck/Giroud are both big men anyway, so Gardos WOULD be suited against them.
Mouldy Coat Posted 5 December, 2014 Posted 5 December, 2014 Yoshida is useless and not what we need as back up. I would rather recruit a decent young championship centre half to sit on the bench than Yoshida. Sadly he has never looked comfortable.
Wade Garrett Posted 5 December, 2014 Posted 5 December, 2014 Not strictly relevant, but there would be something seriously wrong if Yoshida gets a new deal and Cork doesn't.
The9 Posted 5 December, 2014 Posted 5 December, 2014 But would you give him a new contract? Why would we want to do that?
The9 Posted 5 December, 2014 Posted 5 December, 2014 At present, Koeman seems to prefer him to Gardos ??? Of course only being " an occasional player /sub " doesn't help with consistancy, but previously he hasn't over-impressed and has been caught out of position. Something he has in common with Jos H. However, even if he does become the obvious sub. yet doesn't become " a regular" we may find that Koeman will keep him ...just for that reason. But still think we should try to find someone else, too. He was regularly failing to read high balls when he was in the team every week (notably when we played against Lukaku for West Brom). I think the reason he's getting a run at the moment is that we're not playing aerial-based teams. Will be interesting to see what happens against Everton, if Alderweireld isn't fit by then.
The9 Posted 5 December, 2014 Posted 5 December, 2014 Not strictly relevant, but there would be something seriously wrong if Yoshida gets a new deal and Cork doesn't. Wouldn't that depend a fair bit on wages?
Saint-Armstrong Posted 20 December, 2014 Author Posted 20 December, 2014 So, after today... approaching just 6 months left on his deal. Yay or nay to giving him a new contract? I still say 'yay'.
simo Posted 20 December, 2014 Posted 20 December, 2014 A few of us starting to look a little silly as per
Patrick Bateman Posted 20 December, 2014 Posted 20 December, 2014 So, after today... approaching just 6 months left on his deal. Yay or nay to giving him a new contract? I still say 'yay'. Yes - he's a very good defender who has happy to be backup and wait and when asked upon, has done okay. He's definitely someone who gets better with a run in the team.
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