Give it to Ron Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Blimey. Chelsea would have really lost it.As I said no idea if true but solves a big problem. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Correct me if I am wrong but he's still our recored premier league clean sheet holder ? Was brilliant until he strayed from his rehab exercises and stiffened up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Correct me if I am wrong but he's still our recored premier league clean sheet holder ? Was brilliant until he strayed from his rehab exercises and stiffened up He never was. Even in the days when clean sheets were kept it was blindingly obvious that he was dodgy at best, behind a brilliant defence and midfield. he had one or two outstanding games, but always looked clumsy, slow and lacking in authority. Then our "goalkeeping coach" got hold of him and he went from bad to worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Correct me if I am wrong but he's still our recored premier league clean sheet holder ? Was brilliant until he strayed from his rehab exercises and stiffened up He has never been and never will be brilliant. A few good games but ultimately a complete liability. Hope he never plays for us again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Giving him a new contract is one of the worst decisions the Saints hierarchy have made in the last two years. Didn't need one. Didn't deserve one. No chance a club will maych his wages, let alone pay a fee so we will have to let him out on a subsidised loan for a bit, like with Ramirez and Osvaldo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 2 different people have told me rumour is to Chelsea 10m to up their English quota no idea how true Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkThey could just not loan out their very good English keeper Jamal Blackman. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 Blimey. Chelsea would have really lost it. They already lost it when they replaced Costa with Morata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry12 Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 All they have got to do now is tout JWP to anyone and we finally get rid of him and Davis. Fingers crossed. Arnold, last night, was a successful at free kicks and corners as JWP has been for the last 4 years. As for Loftus-Cheek, Forster out of goal, lumbering oaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 All they have got to do now is tout JWP to anyone and we finally get rid of him and Davis. Fingers crossed. Arnold, last night, was a successful at free kicks and corners as JWP has been for the last 4 years. As for Loftus-Cheek, Forster out of goal, lumbering oaf. It would be really nice if some of our moronic posters would encourage some of our younger players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 It would be really nice if some of our moronic posters would encourage some of our younger players JWP is horribly over rated by most on here, and is an average player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 Some of the comments on here. Forster was/is a very good keeper who's had a spell and lost his confidence. He was not 'dodgy' or a 'complete liability' and such comments are just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 He really isn't a very good keeper, his poor footwork, which he has always had means he will never be or been a top keeper, footwork for a keeper is central to movement, positioning , the things Fraser's poor with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBitterne Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 All they have got to do now is tout JWP to anyone and we finally get rid of him and Davis. Fingers crossed. Arnold, last night, was a successful at free kicks and corners as JWP has been for the last 4 years. As for Loftus-Cheek, Forster out of goal, lumbering oaf. Loftus cheek is top class. Alexander Arnold although decent in some areas was poor from set pieces last night and although JWP is not always consistent from set pieces has more quality than that in delivery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 All they have got to do now is tout JWP to anyone and we finally get rid of him and Davis. Fingers crossed. Arnold, last night, was a successful at free kicks and corners as JWP has been for the last 4 years. As for Loftus-Cheek, Forster out of goal, lumbering oaf. Is this post for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 Is this post for real? It’s Larry - he doesn’t rate JWP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 It’s Larry - he doesn’t rate JWP. He's a Pompey troll, he doesn't rate Saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 He's a Pompey troll, he doesn't rate Saints! Good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 Some of the comments on here. Forster was/is a very good keeper who's had a spell and lost his confidence. He was not 'dodgy' or a 'complete liability' and such comments are just stupid. Totally disagree. He is an awful goalkeeper at Premiership level. Still it's all about opinions eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 They could just not loan out their very good English keeper Jamal Blackman. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk It’s looking like he will be joining Leeds... on loan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 Reported on skysports and the daily fail we are open to offers for him http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11419911/southampton-open-to-offers-for-fraser-forster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stud mark of doom Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 He’s not travelling to China by the looks of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 He’s not travelling to China by the looks of it He’s listed in the squads ive seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 He’s not travelling to China by the looks of it Yes he is. His name is above Gabbi’s on the list. See Saints in China thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 July, 2018 Share Posted 1 July, 2018 Watford looking for a keeper. Wonder if they'll try for Forster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 1 July, 2018 Share Posted 1 July, 2018 Watford looking for a keeper. Wonder if they'll try for Forster? Already mentioned today on Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 1 July, 2018 Share Posted 1 July, 2018 Think Watford are actually after Foster from wba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 1 July, 2018 Share Posted 1 July, 2018 The price we pay for some interesting discussions on here are the players assessments that many of us will disagree with, Forster being a case in point. If Fraser had always been an incompetent keeper, he wouldn't have been part of the England squad for 3 years, or won 6 caps. If Joe Hart hadn't been the preferred England No.1 at the time, Fraser would have had more caps. Because he declined from his peak, earlier than expected doesn't mean he was never any good, which some people now claim. Likewise with James Ward-Prowse, a player who made the Saints' first team at the age of 16 and went on the be a regular in the England youth teams. Since then he's made 200 appearances Saints at the highest level and is still only 23. For someone to call him an average player says far more about the person making the remark than it does about JWP. It really would be nice to have less sniping and complaining about players who have achieved a lot for this club in recent years, who then had to suffer the Pellegrino period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 Not that I would, but the same process could be applied to Pellegrino. Then where would we be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 The price we pay for some interesting discussions on here are the players assessments that many of us will disagree with, Forster being a case in point. If Fraser had always been an incompetent keeper, he wouldn't have been part of the England squad for 3 years, or won 6 caps. If Joe Hart hadn't been the preferred England No.1 at the time, Fraser would have had more caps. Because he declined from his peak, earlier than expected doesn't mean he was never any good, which some people now claim. Likewise with James Ward-Prowse, a player who made the Saints' first team at the age of 16 and went on the be a regular in the England youth teams. Since then he's made 200 appearances Saints at the highest level and is still only 23. For someone to call him an average player says far more about the person making the remark than it does about JWP. It really would be nice to have less sniping and complaining about players who have achieved a lot for this club in recent years, who then had to suffer the Pellegrino period. Don't come on here speaking sense. We need scapegoats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 The price we pay for some interesting discussions on here are the players assessments that many of us will disagree with, Forster being a case in point. If Fraser had always been an incompetent keeper, he wouldn't have been part of the England squad for 3 years, or won 6 caps. If Joe Hart hadn't been the preferred England No.1 at the time, Fraser would have had more caps. Because he declined from his peak, earlier than expected doesn't mean he was never any good, which some people now claim. Likewise with James Ward-Prowse, a player who made the Saints' first team at the age of 16 and went on the be a regular in the England youth teams. Since then he's made 200 appearances Saints at the highest level and is still only 23. For someone to call him an average player says far more about the person making the remark than it does about JWP. It really would be nice to have less sniping and complaining about players who have achieved a lot for this club in recent years, who then had to suffer the Pellegrino period. spot on imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 Yes, but Forsters always been ****e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry12 Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 It would be really nice if some of our moronic posters would encourage some of our younger players If they were not poor players AND over-hyped to the nth degree I would. Ploddy as I call him has kept out Sims and Hesketh for far too long. " 2 players who will be far better than Ploddy ever was/is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 12 July, 2018 Share Posted 12 July, 2018 Southampton goalkeeper Fraser Forster is no longer a starter at St. Mary's and some Celtic fans are keen to see him return. http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/11/apparently-loan-listed-some-celtic-fans-want-fraser-forster-re-s/ Forster is no longer the player he once was, but he hasn't become a bad goalkeeper overnight either. He lost his place in the Southampton team more as a result of McCarthy taking his chance and playing well, rather than the Englishman being a total calamity. He remains a decent shot stopper who is physically imposing and commanding in the air, and Celtic, even though they are not currently linked with him, could do worse than to sign him up on loan or on the cheap, with Craig Gordon and Dorus de Vries both ageing. I guess the author hasn't seen any saints games the last two seasons. Get it done Les... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 12 July, 2018 Share Posted 12 July, 2018 I guess the author hasn't seen any saints games the last two seasons. No he's just being a bit more objective and speaking without bias than most people on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 12 July, 2018 Share Posted 12 July, 2018 Southampton goalkeeper Fraser Forster is no longer a starter at St. Mary's and some Celtic fans are keen to see him return. http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/11/apparently-loan-listed-some-celtic-fans-want-fraser-forster-re-s/ Forster is no longer the player he once was, but he hasn't become a bad goalkeeper overnight either. He lost his place in the Southampton team more as a result of McCarthy taking his chance and playing well, rather than the Englishman being a total calamity. He remains a decent shot stopper who is physically imposing and commanding in the air, and Celtic, even though they are not currently linked with him, could do worse than to sign him up on loan or on the cheap, with Craig Gordon and Dorus de Vries both ageing. I guess the author hasn't seen any saints games the last two seasons. Get it done Les... I'm sorry but I'm just not having that, for a man of his size he is about as imposing as the 3 week old kitten the my bloody wife has just bought into the house. As for commanding in the air, you're joking, he's never in the air, his feet are permanently planted, by virtue of which makes him a decent shot stopper if the ball coincidentally hits him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 12 July, 2018 Share Posted 12 July, 2018 No he's just being a bit more objective and speaking without bias than most people on here. You do realise a keeper has to be shiit consistently for a while before hes dropped right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 12 July, 2018 Share Posted 12 July, 2018 Forster was playing well until the injury. Was never the same again. There are problems with his technique - he does not get down to shots well and teams have worked him out. And it is obvious that his confidence is shot and that he is struggling. Clearly on the way out. Wish him well and hope that he can rebuild his career elsewhere. Joe Hart is going through the same experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 July, 2018 Share Posted 12 July, 2018 Commanding in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 12 July, 2018 Share Posted 12 July, 2018 Forster was playing well until the injury. Was never the same again. There are problems with his technique - he does not get down to shots well and teams have worked him out. And it is obvious that his confidence is shot and that he is struggling. Clearly on the way out. Wish him well and hope that he can rebuild his career elsewhere. Joe Hart is going through the same experience. Teams have worked him out. Shoot the ball at the goal. It will go in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 13 July, 2018 Share Posted 13 July, 2018 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6768601/four-england-keepers-face-year-wilderness-premier-league-first-team/# While Forster is so far out of the plans of Mark Hughes at Southampton he is being hawked around to anyone willing to take him on loan. But with wages of £80,000-a-week there is a shortage of interest, with Saints now having to offer to subsidise the majority of his pay just to get him off the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 13 July, 2018 Share Posted 13 July, 2018 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6768601/four-england-keepers-face-year-wilderness-premier-league-first-team/# While Forster is so far out of the plans of Mark Hughes at Southampton he is being hawked around to anyone willing to take him on loan. But with wages of £80,000-a-week there is a shortage of interest, with Saints now having to offer to subsidise the majority of his pay just to get him off the books. That rag is making out there is only 2 keepers, Pope and Pickford. Uh hallllo... We got two potentials ourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 16 July, 2018 Share Posted 16 July, 2018 Sky Sports reporting that Jamal Blackman has joined Leeds on loan from Chelsea for the season. So let's see if there are anything in the rumours of Fraser to Chelsea.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2018 Share Posted 16 July, 2018 Sky Sports reporting that Jamal Blackman has joined Leeds on loan from Chelsea for the season. So let's see if there are anything in the rumours of Fraser to Chelsea.... Where is Blackman in their goalkeeper pecking order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 16 July, 2018 Share Posted 16 July, 2018 Where is Blackman in their goalkeeper pecking order? Was on loan at Sheffield United last season. At 24, he's too old for the junior teams and Chelsea have already moved out one goalkeeper, Eduardo on loan. He was one of 4 named in the first team squad last season. Thibaut Courtois and Willy Caballero are still there, the other goalkeeper in the squad last year was Marcin Bulka, he does fit the age range for the u23's however. Personally I'd be surprised whoever moves in for Fraser, but this was one of the rumours, so let's see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 July, 2018 Share Posted 16 July, 2018 Sky Sports reporting that Jamal Blackman has joined Leeds on loan from Chelsea for the season. So let's see if there are anything in the rumours of Fraser to Chelsea.... The two aren't overly connected, as Blackman was not taking up a spot in Chelsea's first team squad last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2018 Share Posted 16 July, 2018 Was on loan at Sheffield United last season. At 24, he's too old for the junior teams and Chelsea have already moved out one goalkeeper, Eduardo on loan. He was one of 4 named in the first team squad last season. Thibaut Courtois and Willy Caballero are still there, the other goalkeeper in the squad last year was Marcin Bulka, he does fit the age range for the u23's however. Personally I'd be surprised whoever moves in for Fraser, but this was one of the rumours, so let's see what happens. Cheers for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 16 July, 2018 Share Posted 16 July, 2018 He's definitely going, but not even sure he knows where yet. Bit of a mess really. Strange you say that as I was told today that Saints want him gone but just can't find anyone who wants him, even on subsidised wages (loan) or a reduced fee (sale). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 July, 2018 Share Posted 16 July, 2018 Strange you say that as I was told today that Saints want him gone but just can't find anyone who wants him, even on subsidised wages (loan) or a reduced fee (sale). Which would be utterly retarded - you'd think we would have had a deal all but completed when we stuck another keeper on our books - it's just terrible business sense - a club like ours cannot afford to pay 3 first choice keepers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 16 July, 2018 Share Posted 16 July, 2018 He's definitely going, but not even sure he knows where yet. Bit of a mess really. The mess was that the board went on a mass contract extension programme, along with much increased wages. TBH that's fairly pointless as the ones that we didn't want to go, still went even with their long contracts, leaving behind those that we might not want. It is silly that we have currently got 3 first choice keepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 16 July, 2018 Share Posted 16 July, 2018 Except he isn't a first choice keeper, that's the problem!! I know what you mean though - three keepers paid first team rates! Which is the main real problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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