S-Clarke Posted 3 December, 2014 Share Posted 3 December, 2014 Thoroughly agree. He's not even Championship level. I hope tonight was the last time we get to see him. Isgrove can at least get round his man and is a great tackler too. You are so silly, ART. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 3 December, 2014 Share Posted 3 December, 2014 Harsh words. Mane was great to begin with. Alongside Tadic he has hit a rough latch and came on against a team on top. Granted he is unpredictable but to right him off is pure thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 3 December, 2014 Share Posted 3 December, 2014 Yet another post full of opportunism by someone who has dreamt about CL football at St.Mary's way beyond acceptable standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 3 December, 2014 Share Posted 3 December, 2014 Thoroughly agree. He's not even Championship level. I hope tonight was the last time we get to see him. Isgrove can at least get round his man and is a great tackler too. Sorry Art you're talking crap....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 3 December, 2014 Share Posted 3 December, 2014 Harsh words. Mane was great to begin with. Alongside Tadic he has hit a rough latch and came on against a team on top. Granted he is unpredictable but to right him off is pure thick. Really? He was distinctively average at first and has only got worse since! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 3 December, 2014 Share Posted 3 December, 2014 Thoroughly agree. He's not even Championship level. I hope tonight was the last time we get to see him. Isgrove can at least get round his man and is a great tackler too. Bat**** mental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 3 December, 2014 Share Posted 3 December, 2014 Thoroughly agree. He's not even Championship level. I hope tonight was the last time we get to see him. Isgrove can at least get round his man and is a great tackler too. Ridiculous. He's been poor of late though, no worse than Tadic or Pelle mind. The whole front three have gone right off the boil pretty much since the Hull game when we were utterly toothless going forward and had our midfield/back-four/ability to keep a clean sheet to thank. That's now 16 goals in 13 matches if you discount the Sunderland 8-0 which, great result/performance though it was, is massively skewing everything. Some of our players at the back have put in performances that have thoroughly deserved to get them results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 3 December, 2014 Share Posted 3 December, 2014 Mane rates himself too highly. I am not convinced he has either the technical ability to play at this level, or the right attitude. Look at me, look at me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 December, 2014 Share Posted 4 December, 2014 Mane once again this evening showed that he is not to the standard required to unlock a defence. I really don't know what he is offering the team that Isgrove et al cannot. How long do we have keep this guy on the payroll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 4 December, 2014 Share Posted 4 December, 2014 Ridiculous. He's been poor of late though, no worse than Tadic or Pelle mind. The whole front three have gone right off the boil pretty much since the Hull game when we were utterly toothless going forward and had our midfield/back-four/ability to keep a clean sheet to thank. That's now 16 goals in 13 matches if you discount the Sunderland 8-0 which, great result/performance though it was, is massively skewing everything. Some of our players at the back have put in performances that have thoroughly deserved to get them results. Not sure about this. I thought Pelle did Ok tonight apart from some dodgy finishing. His hold up play and defensive work was excellent, streets above anything Mane has managed so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 December, 2014 Share Posted 4 December, 2014 Mane once again this evening showed that he is not to the standard required to unlock a defence. I really don't know what he is offering the team that Isgrove et al cannot. How long do we have keep this guy on the payroll? So, now people have moved from Forster onto Mane I see. Jesus wept, can't we just accept a few bad performances and actually realize how well we'e actually done, rather than seemingly requiring the need to have a player to berate. This is Mane, he will frustrate and delight. You have to take the rough with the smooth with players like him, but he's shown enough during his time here to prove that he's got something in his locker. I see a lot of people calling for Isgrove, but why? Can I ask what has he ever done at a high level to indicate he is good enough and a better alternative to a full international in mane? Why isn't he on the bench if that's the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 4 December, 2014 Share Posted 4 December, 2014 He is not performing anywhere need the level he needs to. Reminds me of a smaller George Lawrence. Flashes of brilliance but generally ****e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 4 December, 2014 Share Posted 4 December, 2014 So, now people have moved from Forster onto Mane I see. Jesus wept, can't we just accept a few bad performances and actually realize how well we'e actually done, rather than seemingly requiring the need to have a player to berate. This is Mane, he will frustrate and delight. You have to take the rough with the smooth with players like him, but he's shown enough during his time here to prove that he's got something in his locker. I see a lot of people calling for Isgrove, but why? Can I ask what has he ever done at a high level to indicate he is good enough and a better alternative to a full international in mane? Why isn't he on the bench if that's the case? More likely it's different people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 December, 2014 Share Posted 4 December, 2014 Ridiculous. He's been poor of late though, no worse than Tadic or Pelle mind. The whole front three have gone right off the boil pretty much since the Hull game when we were utterly toothless going forward and had our midfield/back-four/ability to keep a clean sheet to thank. That's now 16 goals in 13 matches if you discount the Sunderland 8-0 which, great result/performance though it was, is massively skewing everything. Some of our players at the back have put in performances that have thoroughly deserved to get them results. The thing is Tadic and Pelle have a lot more credit in their lockers due to top performances earlier in the season, Mane is a fair bit behind both of them in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 4 December, 2014 Share Posted 4 December, 2014 The thing is Tadic and Pelle have a lot more credit in their lockers due to top performances earlier in the season, Mane is a fair bit behind both of them in that regard. I think Mane has shown he's got ability; he was superb against QPR and Stoke and clearly has a decent amount of pace and skill in his locker. Against Leicester as well he absolutely terrified De Laet. I'll admit that he's been disappointing recently but he's clearly become the new scapegoat considering the overreactions here. People saying we should have Isgrove ahead of him are literally akin to the people in Spring 2012 calling for Hammond ahead of Schneiderlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 December, 2014 Share Posted 4 December, 2014 I think Mane has shown he's got ability; he was superb against QPR and Stoke and clearly has a decent amount of pace and skill in his locker. Against Leicester as well he absolutely terrified De Laet. I'll admit that he's been disappointing recently but he's clearly become the new scapegoat considering the overreactions here. People saying we should have Isgrove ahead of him are literally akin to the people in Spring 2012 calling for Hammond ahead of Schneiderlin. I wouldn't say he's been "superb" for us yet. And yes, Isgrove is definitely not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 1 March, 2016 Share Posted 1 March, 2016 Absolute sh ite, end of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 1 March, 2016 Share Posted 1 March, 2016 Doesn't look like he is even trying thesedays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 March, 2016 Share Posted 1 March, 2016 Don't even try to justify your mental views from over a year ago....they were mentally wrong then, and they still are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 1 March, 2016 Share Posted 1 March, 2016 He's not looked interested lately. No goal in the league since Liverpool away. I was expecting him to be our player of the season this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 1 March, 2016 Share Posted 1 March, 2016 Don't even try to justify your mental views from over a year ago....they were mentally wrong then, and they still are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 March, 2016 Share Posted 1 March, 2016 Can we resurrect the thread from his first six months here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 Don't even try to justify your mental views from over a year ago....they were mentally wrong then, and they still are now. The lad obviously has ability, but over the course of his 18months with us, how regularly has he produced the goods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 When he was good he arguably had several touches in the same game which were awful. Sadly the high spots in his performances seem to have disappeared and we are just left with - well nothing really. He's not even making runs and falling over anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 What happened to the player who scored that insanely fast hat-trick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 What happened to the player who scored that insanely fast hat-trick? That bit of him is already at Old Trafford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 (edited) Can we resurrect the thread from his first six months here? I think some of it started with the OP on this thread, Whitey.......go back and take a look. CAUTION: Everything they said has been written down and will surely be used against them ...forever more. Edited 2 March, 2016 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 That bit of him is already at Old Trafford Genuinely can't see why they would be interested at the moment though. Nowhere near consistent enough, especially for a 'big' team - they need players who can come in and do the business straight away, not someone who only fancies it every now and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 Absolutely terrible last night - doesn't look interested at all, doesn't look like he's trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 Nobody came out of that game with any honours but it looked like we were playing with 10 men. I can't recall a single constructive contribution from Mane in the whole 90 minutes. He has pace, but if he can't use it in the right areas, control a ball, pass it to one of his one team or shoot on target then that pace is pretty irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 Absolutely terrible last night - doesn't look interested at all, doesn't look like he's trying. Not sure that he can be accused of not trying, he looks so entirely predictable though and defenders always seem to be able to guess pretty accurately what he's intending to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 Bunch of wet tarts on here this is football players cannot perform consistently every single game...... get a grip! saying he is average? oh dear stick to football manager lads.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 Nobody came out of that game with any honours but it looked like we were playing with 10 men. I can't recall a single constructive contribution from Mane in the whole 90 minutes. He has pace, but if he can't use it in the right areas, control a ball, pass it to one of his one team or shoot on target then that pace is pretty irrelevant. You mean other than being involved in our best bits of play and forcing Boruc to make his only save of note. The service was terrible -we've switched from hitting long balls to Pelle to hitting balls down the channels to chase, regardless what the opposition is doing. This bitty, percentages football isn't conducive to our skill players. Not just Mané who is also suffering from bad form. Otherwise Mané (and Long) was picking the ball up deep in our own half and having to release the ball quickly sideways or backwards. Running at 3-4 bournemouth players made little sense. Had Romeu, JWP and to some extent the fullbacks (though esp in the 3-5-2) not been sitting so deep but occasionally making runs and pulling defenders, the likes of Mané may have had more space to carry the ball into. But that's not how we've set up recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 Recon the agent has said "Look United are interested but won't pay £25m play **** until the end of the season let's see if we can get your price down" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 everybody was sh1t last night, unfair to single Mane out in a terrible team performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 everybody was sh1t last night, unfair to single Mane out in a terrible team performance. Mane has been pants for months now , So much so I may dig out my Thread on the subject! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 Recon the agent has said "Look United are interested but won't pay £25m play **** until the end of the season let's see if we can get your price down" I'd doubt if Utd are really all that interested, there will be far better players available next summer than Mané. Haven't they already done some sort of deal for Felipé Anderson ? Utd aren't really big buyers of Africans either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 He's no where near good enough for Man Utd...Liverpool on the other hand.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 Mane at his best is an outstanding young player, one of the best young players in the Prem, and he is (was?) probably worth close to £30m. Since Xmas he has been utter gash, he doesn't look interested, he doesn't appear to be trying, he doesn't look as fit or as sharp as he did previously; he looks every inch a player who is winding down his time with us and waiting for his big-money move and the big wages that go with it. I'd be very surprised if he produces anything worthwhile over the remaining games or if he is with us next year, we've probably already got his replacement lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 Mane at his best is an outstanding young player, one of the best young players in the Prem, and he is (was?) probably worth close to £30m. Since Xmas he has been utter gash, he doesn't look interested, he doesn't appear to be trying, he doesn't look as fit or as sharp as he did previously; he looks every inch a player who is winding down his time with us and waiting for his big-money move and the big wages that go with it. I'd be very surprised if he produces anything worthwhile over the remaining games or if he is with us next year, we've probably already got his replacement lined up. Would take Sisto from Midgetland.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 Would take Sisto from Midgetland.... Good idea. How much do they want for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 He's a clever guy. Loves saints so much that he is deliberately playing himself out of a summer transfer away and will then win the golden boot with us next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 I'd doubt if Utd are really all that interested, there will be far better players available next summer than Mané. Haven't they already done some sort of deal for Felipé Anderson ? Utd aren't really big buyers of Africans either. I like Mane a lot. I enjoy almost everything in his game apart from him going to ground far too easily. He is always going to be a little hit and miss. He plays at a hundred miles and hour and that means the ball will be mis-controlled on a regular basis because it is just behind him and/or he will take the wrong option when a slower player would perhaps make sure. He will also spray shots wide because he's happy to take anything on, not just wait for the ball to sit perfectly. The flip side is that he inserts energy and pace into the attack. He is a genuine threat when playing in the right areas. He's very much like another personal favourite Henri Camara. Lightening, but perhaps at a price. However, there is no denying that absolutely nothing has come off for him for many months now. Not a flick, trick or pass. Add to that his first touch has let him down, decision making has been poor, he has been offside a lot and given the ball away too many times (so much so he has had to be subbed and dropped). Personally I don't put it down to wanting to leave or not trying or anything simple like that. It's just not happening. No more no less. In terms of United. I agree, he doesn't feel like their type of player. He's just a little too erratic with a touch that is not quite good enough, often enough. I'm sure the'd like to add his dynamism, pace and threat, but I think they'd want someone that doesn't miscontrol so often. United have signed the odd African player: Quniton Fortune, Eric Djemba-Djemba, Manucho and Mame Biram Diouf shake out of a google search, but not exactly inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 CHEZ When I read your first paragraph I immediately thought of Camara. The bloke scored goals by trying as many times as possible. Something like five to one. Favourite of mine also. Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 Couldn't quite understand why RK picked him last night and left Davis on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 March, 2016 Share Posted 2 March, 2016 I'd be amazed if a top club wants him for the price it would take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 March, 2016 Share Posted 3 March, 2016 Couldn't quite understand why RK picked him last night and left Davis on the bench. Forum pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 3 March, 2016 Share Posted 3 March, 2016 I'd doubt if Utd are really all that interested, there will be far better players available next summer than Mané. Haven't they already done some sort of deal for Felipé Anderson ? Utd aren't really big buyers of Africans either. I wonder what Terry Paine would be worth today in my opinion a complete footballer who won so many games for SFC and with Chivers took us to Div 1 fifty years ago with that goal right in front of me at Brisbane Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 3 March, 2016 Share Posted 3 March, 2016 I wonder what Terry Paine would be worth today in my opinion a complete footballer who won so many games for SFC and with Chivers took us to Div 1 fifty years ago with that goal right in front of me at Brisbane Road Probably my most enjoyable Saints game after the 1976 cup final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 3 March, 2016 Share Posted 3 March, 2016 I wonder what Terry Paine would be worth today in my opinion a complete footballer who won so many games for SFC and with Chivers took us to Div 1 fifty years ago with that goal right in front of me at Brisbane Road Right in front of me as well - can still see him heading the ball in. Happy days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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