The Cat Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 He also isn't our best player. That's Van Dijk as proved in all the player of the season votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Thetr is something wrong eith the club. Unable to hold on to valuable assets. Not too fussef about Vic going, but losing our only rral creative, exciting player (apologies to tadic) is getting ridiculous. We didn't have to sell him, but the Board really just see things in terms of pounds earned. In the end we suffer because kids lose their heroes and lose interst and our future fan base disappears. But its OK our Board will come up with a cheap replacement and some supporters will continue to believe that because it has worked in the past it will work in the future. In the end it will go tits up. Thats 9 staff and players out now, and one in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Thetr is something wrong eith the club. Unable to hold on to valuable assets. Not too fussef about Vic going, but losing our only rral creative, exciting player (apologies to tadic) is getting ridiculous. We didn't have to sell him, but the Board really just see things in terms of pounds earned. In the end we suffer because kids lose their heroes and lose interst and our future fan base disappears. But its OK our Board will come up with a cheap replacement and some supporters will continue to believe that because it has worked in the past it will work in the future. In the end it will go tits up. Thats 9 staff and players out now, and one in. Are you drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Yes, but the important bit is 'depending on how well Liverpool do', which means it will just be the £34.5M I thought the article said with add ons it would rise to between £36m and 38.5m, meaning 36m guaranteed. Happily accept £36m if it means Liverpool having 4 crap seasons...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Thetr is something wrong eith the club. Unable to hold on to valuable assets. Not too fussef about Vic going, but losing our only rral creative, exciting player (apologies to tadic) is getting ridiculous. We didn't have to sell him, but the Board really just see things in terms of pounds earned. In the end we suffer because kids lose their heroes and lose interst and our future fan base disappears. But its OK our Board will come up with a cheap replacement and some supporters will continue to believe that because it has worked in the past it will work in the future. In the end it will go tits up. Thats 9 staff and players out now, and one in. I counted 7? 3 staff and 4 players including Ramirez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 (edited) Let's see the personne we have lost: 2014: Lambert Lallana Lovren Chambers Shaw Pochettino Matt Radcliffe Paul Mitchell 2015: Morgan Clyne 2016: Mane Wanyama Koeman Edited 27 June, 2016 by nta786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Let's see the personne we have lost: 2014: Lambert Lallana Lovren Chambers Shaw Pochettino Matt Radcliffe Paul Mitchell 2015: Morgan Clyne Koeman 2016: Mane Wanyama How does that compare with other clubs? Not many players hang around too long anywhere these days. Frequent changes of manager don't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Let's see the personne we have lost: 2014: Lambert - getting old so a bit meh what ever the past service. Lallana - so be it Lovren - c*** Chambers - stupid money for someone who had hardly played Shaw - even more stupid money Pochettino - a shame, but what could the club do? Matt Radcliffe - so be it Paul Mitchell - so be it 2015: Morgan - didn't want to be here Clyne - last year of contract and refused to extend Koeman - didn't want to see out his contract and went for the money and the entry on his CV of improving an under performing Everton 2016: Mane - stupid money and didn't want to be here Wanyama - last year of contract and refused to extend Do you advocate the club buying in some guns and holding the staff hostage so that they don't leave???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Thetr is something wrong eith the club. Unable to hold on to valuable assets. Not too fussef about Vic going, but losing our only rral creative, exciting player (apologies to tadic) is getting ridiculous. We didn't have to sell him, but the Board really just see things in terms of pounds earned. In the end we suffer because kids lose their heroes and lose interst and our future fan base disappears. But its OK our Board will come up with a cheap replacement and some supporters will continue to believe that because it has worked in the past it will work in the future. In the end it will go tits up. Thats 9 staff and players out now, and one in. 9? So you're basically including Kelvin as evidence we can't hang on to players. One day you my get your wish and we will have to sit through a season without a Lallana, Morgan, Wanyama or Mané in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Let's see the personne we have lost: 2014: Lambert Lallana Lovren Chambers Shaw Pochettino Matt Radcliffe Paul Mitchell 2015: Morgan Clyne 2016: Mane Wanyama Koeman You've missed Juanmi from 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 You've missed Juanmi from 2016 I think he's only counting good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Let's see the personne we have lost: 2014: Lambert - getting old so a bit meh what ever the past service. Lallana - so be it Lovren - c*** Chambers - stupid money for someone who had hardly played Shaw - even more stupid money Pochettino - a shame, but what could the club do? Matt Radcliffe - so be it Paul Mitchell - so be it 2015: Morgan - didn't want to be here Clyne - last year of contract and refused to extend Koeman - didn't want to see out his contract and went for the money and the entry on his CV of improving an under performing Everton 2016: Mane - stupid money and didn't want to be here Wanyama - last year of contract and refused to extend Do you advocate the club buying in some guns and holding the staff hostage so that they don't leave???? This kind of puts things into perspective, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh it's a corner Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Let's see the personne we have lost: 2014: Lambert - getting old so a bit meh what ever the past service. (With hindsight, we had the best of him, he has gone downhill since.) Lallana - so be it (Has future potential, could be great, but always a nearly player, but hasn't had a better year since his exceptional last season for us) Lovren - c*** (Plenty of good years ahead of him, even after a poor first season. His arrogance with the national side is something we don't need to have near us) Chambers - stupid money for someone who had hardly played (Hasn't played enough to improve since he left us and wouldn't be missed by AFC if they sold him) Shaw - even more stupid money (Great talent, broke his leg, anything could happen from here) Pochettino - a shame, but what could the club do? (Missed, we'd have him back in a heartbeat, but left for greener grass) Matt Radcliffe - so be it Paul Mitchell - so be it 2015: Morgan - didn't want to be here (Good footballer, but not a worldie. Not being used at Man Utd, but would walk back into our midfield) Clyne - last year of contract and refused to extend (Disappointed that he's not England's first choice full back. Thought he would have nailed that with his move to Roy's LFC) Koeman - didn't want to see out his contract and went for the money and the entry on his CV of improving an under performing Everton (whatevs) 2016: Mane - stupid money and didn't want to be here (£34m for him is good business. Good footballer, hope he goes on from here, fear that he won't) Wanyama - last year of contract and refused to extend (Wants Champions League football, will have it for 1 season at Tottenham and then move to back to Celtic, citing ambition) Do you advocate the club buying in some guns and holding the staff hostage so that they don't leave???? We sell players, we buy players. Typically the players we sell (that we remember) leave for big club challenges. But we must remember, we have bought half the Celtic team in recent years, and there is no doubting which of SFC and Celtic are bigger. (there's also no doubting which one has the financial ability to pay more) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.JonB Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Let's see the personne we have lost: 2014: Lambert - getting old so a bit meh what ever the past service. Lallana - so be it Lovren - c*** Chambers - stupid money for someone who had hardly played Shaw - even more stupid money Pochettino - a shame, but what could the club do? Matt Radcliffe - so be it Paul Mitchell - so be it 2015: Morgan - didn't want to be here Clyne - last year of contract and refused to extend Koeman - didn't want to see out his contract and went for the money and the entry on his CV of improving an under performing Everton 2016: Mane - stupid money and didn't want to be here Wanyama - last year of contract and refused to extend Do you advocate the club buying in some guns and holding the staff hostage so that they don't leave???? Cheers; good post. You're right we are terrible at holding on to our best players (not to mention managers). Maybe only Newcastle worse would you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 I still don't understand why players are so keen to leave at the first offer. Is it ambition or greed? Surely a regular starting place is a better option? Hmmm, let me think.... What would I do if another employer came along and offered me double my wages for less work? I'll have to give this some serious thought and get back to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Sign up the Iceland players a lot of heart and commitment there just like Leicester Made all the expensive superstars look gash I bet they would stay a bit longer too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Let's get this straight, we have lost a key number of players because we have finished 8th, 7th and 6th in the past three years, and we are not the traditional top 6 club. I've decided to look for teams in the past who have replicated that, and Aston Villa finishing 6th three times in a row, Evertons fairly successful few seasons. Each one of those clubs have lost key players, Aston Villa lost Barry, Milner, Downing and Ashley Young for huge fees too at the time. http://www.transferleague.co.uk/aston-villa/english-football-teams/aston-villa-transfer Have a look yourself- funny how Aston Villa did spend more than they gained from Benteke and Delph sales etc, key is how you spend it not how much you spend. We need to continue with the transfer success we have had, as Newcastle have shown this season in particular that money could be blown very easily. http://www.transferleague.co.uk/everton/english-football-teams/everton-transfers This is Everton- whilst not as regular as us, they have lost some big names. Really though we have lost far too many numbers- doesn't matter if we are successful!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 We wont ya know, Kats got it all, Reed`s a joke, bet our new manager is crap, we are a soft touch, be we get relegated......boo hoo....snivel, sniff, whine..... My god do you ever stop ? You go on and on and on ffs . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Saints showing ambition as always..... Nathon Redmond to replace Mane ohdear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Answer to your questions: -http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/14582600.COMMENT__Just_WHY_do_the_club_find_it_so_hard_to_keep_their_crown_jewels_/?ref=rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Answer to your questions: -http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/14582600.COMMENT__Just_WHY_do_the_club_find_it_so_hard_to_keep_their_crown_jewels_/?ref=rss Jesus that's sounds just like a whinging ramble on here...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Answer to your questions: -http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/14582600.COMMENT__Just_WHY_do_the_club_find_it_so_hard_to_keep_their_crown_jewels_/?ref=rss Was this article. Written by Neil Allen? It sure looks like it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 My god do you ever stop ? You go on and on and on ffs . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk I know your are a tad dim but can you see the irony in your post.... Lets do a deal...If you stop posting utter garbage i will ignore you...i know thats a lot to ask of you as you can`t help yourself but give it a go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Liverpool. You'd have thought they must be sick of getting mugged by us every summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 I know your are a tad dim but can you see the irony in your post.... Lets do a deal...If you stop posting utter garbage i will ignore you...i know thats a lot to ask of you as you can`t help yourself but give it a go... The irony is that you don't understand what irony is . You post way more than I do . Always telling people off and belittling in your smug style . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 The irony is that you don't understand what irony is . You post way more than I do . Always telling people off and belittling in your smug style . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 I'm looking forward to seeing Mane fail in a Liverpool shirt. He's just too inconsistent to secure a starting place at a "big" club and coming off the bench he often trys too hard. He is a very much a confidence player and can barely stay on his feet when things are going against him. But i wish he was staying as we don't have anyone with his skill, on his day he is simply unplayable and that super quick hat trick against Villa will stay in my memory for ever, great day! I still don't understand why players are so keen to leave at the first offer. Is it ambition or greed? Surely a regular starting place is a better option? Why on earth do some people want others to fail? I would rather Saints players be the best of the best. I would rather watch two excellent sets of players in a Saints v Liverpool match in which Mane played well for Liverpool, but our opposite number was even better. That's the kind of entertainment I look forward to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Answer to your questions: -http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/14582600.COMMENT__Just_WHY_do_the_club_find_it_so_hard_to_keep_their_crown_jewels_/?ref=rss WTF is that dreadful article? Embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Confirmed by Saints Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/20160528-sadio-mane-announcement-southampton-liverpool-3159245.aspx Confirmed. Club record fee but undisclosed. So anywhere from 30 mill up basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Officially done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Gone the best wishes from the club, doesn't seem like he was looking a for a move it's just that Liverpool offered mental money. Now lets get spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Best wishes from the club so clearly no animosity there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Good luck Sadio. On your day you were too hot to handle and obviously that didn't go unnoticed by the bigger fish. I wish you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Looking at the two latest posts from guan and KBS and trying to decipher the hidden messages in those pictures Is it possible that Kat has sold the club to a.n. Other re the new kids on the block Or is it a case the board are dancing to the tune of Kat L ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLondon Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Looking at the two latest posts from guan and KBS and trying to decipher the hidden messages in those pictures I missed these, what were they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Best wishes from the club so clearly no animosity there Well yeah- it was always gonna be that. Mane didn't force the move or come out with stupid comments like Lovren or say he would never play for us like Lallana. Mane would have given his all if we made him stay for a third year- but Reed and others just took a decision to cash in now and invest than take £15m for him next season (and also knowinng he will miss a month and a half) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Post 879 and 880 on this thread London saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakkoUK Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Here's hoping he has a lovely inconsistent season at Liverpool where he is ****e for 90% of it and loses confidence due to his price tag and results in the club and players on his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 I liked Sadio. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Here's hoping he has a lovely inconsistent season at Liverpool where he is ****e for 90% of it and loses confidence due to his price tag and results in the club and players on his back. There's not really any need to be bitter is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 For me it's thanks Sadio...I've enjoyed what you brought to the team and wish we could have kept you - thought you'd go to one of the big European teams rather than stepping down ours but good luck except, of course, when we play the unimaginative, bin-dipping ****s you've joined! Bitter...nah...pint of lager for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 haha I'll thank him for the services, the memories, but unless he went abroad no good luck from me! I hope he flops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 £36m for a player that inconsistent is quite a lot of money. Unplayable on his day, which hopefully next season is against Everton but absolutely nowhere for half of last year. Think he had a 6 month period where Liverpool were the only team he scored against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 It's a shame he's gone, he's been really good to watch in a Saints shirt. Pretty likely I'll be able to say I was there for the fastest Premier League hat trick for a long long time to come because of him Now we need to carry on our track record of spending money ten times better than Liverpool. That's already led us to finishing above them for the first time in our history. Hopefully it can keep us above them next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 "Liverpool are adamant the deal for Mane will not exceed £30million, inclusive of any add-ons as part of the negotiation which was agreed last week but delayed at Southampton’s request until they completed the £11 million signing of replacement Nathan Redmond." Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/06/28/sadio-mane-liverpool-announce-five-year-deal-for-30m-striker/ (From the Liverpool side of the Telegraph) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 So is it £30m, £34.5m or £38.5m?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Looking at the two latest posts from guan and KBS and trying to decipher the hidden messages in those pictures I missed these, what were they? Like a couple of clues on 3-2-1. Is it Dusty Bin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Like a couple of clues on 3-2-1. Is it Dusty Bin? 3-2-1 ... Ted Rodgers. Rodgers. Brendan. Obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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