CONFIRMED - Mane joins Liverpool for £34m + £2m addons

[Saint IQ]

Stones didnt WANT to leave, if he did, he would have gone - he'll go this summer as will Lukaku

 

Well he handed in a transfer request so if that doesn't say he didn't WANT to leave I don't know WHAT else does.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

We've met in the middle, fair enough. Hope he flops although I can't see it.

 

I actually could`nt care less how he does now he`s gone, except when he plays against us

[Saint IQ]

Is he? exciting to watch yes but his goals and assists were exactly the same as Pelle's and like one better than Long's. Mane is not as bad as some are making out but neither is he as good as some are trying to make out.

 

In my opinion he's the best player we've had since I've been a supporter. When on form. Best is yet to come from him too.

 

Can't deny he had a sticky patch maybe he couldn't be arsed until he realised the transfer window was coming in a few months.

 

Then he was absolutely brilliant.

[EBS1980]

So with VW and Mane going, thats £45M in the bank. That should allow us to bring in 4 players to improve the squad. Redmond is already in so £34M on a replacement for VW and strengthening 2 other places.

 

Get those signings right and we will come out stronger again.

[Saint IQ]

I actually could`nt care less how he does now he`s gone, except when he plays against us

 

If we're close in the table to Liverpool I'll care, if we're nowhere near I won't

[Mallagroth]

IMO this is the clearest indication we have ever had, of money in the short term being placed as more important than results and continued club growth. A year more with Mane when we didn't have to sell him to strengthen a rival would have been much more profitable than short sightedly taking the dosh. Maybe/probably/hopefully the gamble will pay off again but it ****s me off we were in a position holding the cards, and roll over again to clubs that are finishing around us. Starting to feel like we are the soft kid in the playground who everyone takes lunch from because they are so 'nice' and quick to hand it over without fuss. The clubs image is affected everytime it happens along with the public blunders with Koeman and Alderweireld and it effects the public image and brand. Thank **** we got Virgin on board as it helps to some extent but Saints FC is becoming synonymous with the words naive, victim and unambitious (whether its true or not it is starting to stick) every transfer window which is pretty damaging for a brand. Thankfully our playing ability is combating it and constant achieving beyond expectation but we have a mild season and end mid table or slightly lower and that gets forgotten in favour of the brand image which is all we will have to sell ourselves on to new players.

[JoeShmoe]

So with VW and Mane going, thats £45M in the bank. That should allow us to bring in 4 players to improve the squad. Redmond is already in so £34M on a replacement for VW and strengthening 2 other places.

 

Get those signings right and we will come out stronger again.

 

Plus say 11m for Pelle, a fully fit Jay Road and Austin , and players like Cedric who will come back better from the Euros

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Regardless of the arguments and differing perceptions we have of ourselves, our image to outsiders is of a well run club who sadly cannot hold onto their best players. People I know who don't support Saints respect us but also pity us.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

IMO this is the clearest indication we have ever had, of money in the short term being placed as more important than results and continued club growth. A year more with Mane when we didn't have to sell him to strengthen a rival would have been much more profitable than short sightedly taking the dosh. Maybe/probably/hopefully the gamble will pay off again but it ****s me off we were in a position holding the cards, and roll over again to clubs that are finishing around us. Starting to feel like we are the soft kid in the playground who everyone takes lunch from because they are so 'nice' and quick to hand it over without fuss. The clubs image is affected everytime it happens along with the public blunders with Koeman and Alderweireld and it effects the public image and brand. Thank **** we got Virgin on board as it helps to some extent but Saints FC is becoming synonymous with the words naive, victim and unambitious (whether its true or not it is starting to stick) every transfer window which is pretty damaging for a brand. Thankfully our playing ability is combating it and constant achieving beyond expectation but we have a mild season and end mid table or slightly lower and that gets forgotten in favour of the brand image which is all we will have to sell ourselves on to new players.

 

If everything is not acceptable at the club why do you bother with it, why not go to one of the playground bullies

[buctootim]

IMO this is the clearest indication we have ever had, of money in the short term being placed as more important than results and continued club growth. A year more with Mane when we didn't have to sell him to strengthen a rival would have been much more profitable than short sightedly taking the dosh. Maybe/probably/hopefully the gamble will pay off again but it ****s me off we were in a position holding the cards, and roll over again to clubs that are finishing around us. Starting to feel like we are the soft kid in the playground who everyone takes lunch from because they are so 'nice' and quick to hand it over without fuss. The clubs image is affected everytime it happens along with the public blunders with Koeman and Alderweireld and it effects the public image and brand. Thank **** we got Virgin on board as it helps to some extent but Saints FC is becoming synonymous with the words naive, victim and unambitious (whether its true or not it is starting to stick) every transfer window which is pretty damaging for a brand. Thankfully our playing ability is combating it and constant achieving beyond expectation but we have a mild season and end mid table or slightly lower and that gets forgotten in favour of the brand image which is all we will have to sell ourselves on to new players.

 

Good post, exactly this.

 

This is the third year of assuring supporters everything is fine with managers and players going nowhere - and then caving / cashing in at the first opportunity. There is more than one way to run a club sustainably.

[Cricketphilly]

So with VW and Mane going, thats £45M in the bank. That should allow us to bring in 4 players to improve the squad. Redmond is already in so £34M on a replacement for VW and strengthening 2 other places.

 

Get those signings right and we will come out stronger again.

 

I'm sure signings between British clubs are subject to VAT, so won't be 45 mill in the bank. Please feel free to prove me wrong though..

[suewhistle]

You clearly haven't visited RAWK. I hear they are trying to poach alpine and dalek from us in a big money deal.

 

Yeah, and typically saints, we'll let them go without a fight.

 

Sni gger

[beatlesaint]

Regardless of the arguments and differing perceptions we have of ourselves, our image to outsiders is of a well run club who sadly cannot hold onto their best players. People I know who don't support Saints respect us but also pity us.

 

Thats the image of the club some of us have as Saints supporters too Duncan and quite frankly there isnt much evidence to suggest otherwise.

Mane had two years left, why for heavens sake didnt they do what they did with Vic and Morgan and tell him he would stay until the last year of the contract ?

 

Ok they wouldnt have got £36 million for him next summer BUT if more than one club were interested they might have got £20 million and if mane staying was the difference between finishing 7th or 15th for arguments sake there is the transfer fee shortfall right there !

[Saint_Ash]

IMO this is the clearest indication we have ever had, of money in the short term being placed as more important than results and continued club growth. A year more with Mane when we didn't have to sell him to strengthen a rival would have been much more profitable than short sightedly taking the dosh. Maybe/probably/hopefully the gamble will pay off again but it ****s me off we were in a position holding the cards, and roll over again to clubs that are finishing around us. Starting to feel like we are the soft kid in the playground who everyone takes lunch from because they are so 'nice' and quick to hand it over without fuss. The clubs image is affected everytime it happens along with the public blunders with Koeman and Alderweireld and it effects the public image and brand. Thank **** we got Virgin on board as it helps to some extent but Saints FC is becoming synonymous with the words naive, victim and unambitious (whether its true or not it is starting to stick) every transfer window which is pretty damaging for a brand. Thankfully our playing ability is combating it and constant achieving beyond expectation but we have a mild season and end mid table or slightly lower and that gets forgotten in favour of the brand image which is all we will have to sell ourselves on to new players.

I wish there was a playground bully willing to give me £20 for my £5 lunch.

[tajjuk]

IMO this is the clearest indication we have ever had, of money in the short term being placed as more important than results and continued club growth. A year more with Mane when we didn't have to sell him to strengthen a rival would have been much more profitable than short sightedly taking the dosh. Maybe/probably/hopefully the gamble will pay off again but it ****s me off we were in a position holding the cards, and roll over again to clubs that are finishing around us. Starting to feel like we are the soft kid in the playground who everyone takes lunch from because they are so 'nice' and quick to hand it over without fuss. The clubs image is affected everytime it happens along with the public blunders with Koeman and Alderweireld and it effects the public image and brand. Thank **** we got Virgin on board as it helps to some extent but Saints FC is becoming synonymous with the words naive, victim and unambitious (whether its true or not it is starting to stick) every transfer window which is pretty damaging for a brand. Thankfully our playing ability is combating it and constant achieving beyond expectation but we have a mild season and end mid table or slightly lower and that gets forgotten in favour of the brand image which is all we will have to sell ourselves on to new players.

 

This.

 

This sale is for profit and nothing else.

 

Then we can keep up the pretence of 'spending' when in reality we are just spending what we have already sold.

 

The club has made net transfer profits from the last two years and this season we will have the most amount of TV money we've ever had, it's hardly like we need to cash.

[doddisalegend]

In my opinion he's the best player we've had since I've been a supporter. When on form. Best is yet to come from him too.

 

Can't deny he had a sticky patch maybe he couldn't be arsed until he realised the transfer window was coming in a few months.

 

Then he was absolutely brilliant.

 

 

 

You have to ask yourself though if he so amazing why

 

a) no big club was willing to take chance on him before Southampton?

 

 

b) why the only club now interested in signing him are Liverpool?

 

 

 

Even Man U last season never actually bid despite interest. For the best player to ever play for saints he doesn't seem to have excited any of the big clubs enough to sign him.

[Saint IQ]

Get the Ox back, if Pelle goes replacement for him, Wanyama replacement and spend big on a number 10.

 

15m, 10m, 9m, 20m + (11m for Redmond)= 65m

 

Maybe another squad player for 5m= 70m

 

Mane (34m), Wanyama (11m), Pelle (6m), Koeman (5m) Juanmi (2m)= 58m

 

With all this I predict we'll net spend at 12m max 20m. What happens to all the other TV/sponsorship/Commercial money?

 

If Pelle is going we can't let anyone else go 3 first team players is where it should stop,

 

Liverpool will obviously come in for Bertrand as well, he has 3 years left and hopefully he doesn't kick up a fuss but if we sell him as well it would just be mental with the Europa league coming up as well as 3 other competitions.

[Wes Tender]

I'm delighted that we have once again managed to pull down Scousehampton's pants. When will they ever learn? The players they have bought from us have been patchy playing for them, and we have managed to replace them very nicely and to improve both our bank balance and our league position at the same time, finishing above them for the first time in our history. It must be that they believe that if they take what they see as our best players, they will buy our league position whilst simultaneously weakening a rival team. If their philosophy is along these lines, plundering the talent of a smaller but successful club, why don't they have a stab at denuding the Champions team? Or should they have a go at getting their manager instead?

[Wes Tender]

I wish there was a playground bully willing to give me £20 for my £5 lunch.

 

:lol:

[Saint IQ]

Can the thread be changed to 36m it looks better

 

Be good if we have a sell on clause as well, we seem to have them put in most of our purchases. At least if he becomes as good as I think he will he won't be at Liverpool for more than 2 years.

 

Saying that Salzburg probably put one in our deal so they'll get a cut of this Liverpool money.

[Window Cleaner]

I'm sure signings between British clubs are subject to VAT, so won't be 45 mill in the bank. Please feel free to prove me wrong though..

 

Even between EU clubs VAT is applicable I believe. As we usually sell for more than we buy our contributions to the Exchequer must be fairly consistent .

[Whitey Grandad]

I'm sure signings between British clubs are subject to VAT, so won't be 45 mill in the bank. Please feel free to prove me wrong though..

 

I'm pretty sure that they are unless you're Portsmouth who argued that they didn't have to hand over any of the VAT that they received from player sales. That was part of the claim against them.

[Whitey Grandad]

Even between EU clubs VAT is applicable I believe. As we usually sell for more than we buy our contributions to the Exchequer must be fairly consistent .

 

Intra-community dealings do not normally attract VAT. I don't know about personnel contracts but it is certainly true of goods which is one reasonwhy the Single Market is so important to us.Items such as cars, boats and planes are different. 'm sure they would like VAT to apply but they couldn't agree over who should receive it. For example, if you had paid VAT to one country would you then be able to claim it back from your own?

[the saint in winchester]

IMO this is the clearest indication we have ever had, of money in the short term being placed as more important than results and continued club growth.

 

As others seem to be falling over themselves to agree with you, I will let you know I completely DISAGREE. Our strength is team spirit, maximizing each player's ability and getting the best out of them. That has been clear when we have seen Lovren, Lallana, Clyne, Lambert, Schneiderlin etc be a shadow of the player they were for us. There comes a point when a player is so dead set on leaving that keeping him against his will disrupts team spirit, and its best to let him go and get back a huge transfer fee. Mane is a great player, but to get back £34M for a player who we bought for £10M and is now older is a great transaction. We will evolve again and come out stronger next season than we were last season.

So IMO this is the clearest indication we have ever had, of team spirit in the long term being placed as more important than holding players to contracts against their will while maintaining continued club growth.

[iansums]

Sorry to see him go but £34-£36M, wow!

[tajjuk]

IMO this is the clearest indication we have ever had, of money in the short term being placed as more important than results and continued club growth.

 

As others seem to be falling over themselves to agree with you, I will let you know I completely DISAGREE. Our strength is team spirit, maximizing each player's ability and getting the best out of them. That has been clear when we have seen Lovren, Lallana, Clyne, Lambert, Schneiderlin etc be a shadow of the player they were for us. There comes a point when a player is so dead set on leaving that keeping him against his will disrupts team spirit, and its best to let him go and get back a huge transfer fee. Mane is a great player, but to get back £34M for a player who we bought for £10M and is now older is a great transaction. We will evolve again and come out stronger next season than we were last season.

So IMO this is the clearest indication we have ever had, of team spirit in the long term being placed as more important than holding players to contracts against their will while maintaining continued club growth.

 

Er what?

 

None of Clyne, Lallana or Morgan are a 'shadow' of themselves.

 

And Mane is older, but also better than when we signed him and he's 24, not 30, he can potentially improve even more.

 

The profit is great for our bank manager and our bank balance, that's it.

 

As for team spirit, if our team spirit was so great we'd have over achieved more and not gone through that run of bad games in the middle of the season. We'd win more games when the team wasn't playing so well.

 

Our success has been built on having good players.

[Saint_Tony]

****ed off he's going to Liverpool of all teams but you can't argue with the price. We've signed Redmond, and I'm sure we will have other targets ready. Do we think this will be it for the clearout, or are we expecting Pelle and Tadic to go?

 

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[verlaine1979]

Maybe we could have held out until the end of the window for another £5m, but the club have probably learned from Spurs and Villa that having a huge hole in your squad and a huge wad of cash is no good if you only have the last day or two of the window to spend it. If he was always going to go, and if he wasn't going to go to a bigger club than Liverpool (and he hasn't yet proven himself enough to make the step up to a regular place at a top 4 club yet anyway), probably makes sense to get 90% of what you were asking for, and give yourself the whole summer to reinvest it. I can see him moving on for £50m or £60m to somewhere like Bayern in two years if he does well (they have wingers to replace soon), so I do hope we have a nice sell-on percentage agreed too.

[St Chalet]

To be fair, a big reason players like Mane join us is as a stepping stone. It will help us attract the next round of signings.

[ErwinK1961]

****ed off he's going to Liverpool of all teams but you can't argue with the price. We've signed Redmond, and I'm sure we will have other targets ready. Do we think this will be it for the clearout, or are we expecting Pelle and Tadic to go?

 

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Pelle more than likely I'd imagine - Tadic, who knows... depends how much he didn't get on with RK and if he wants to sign a new deal

[angelman]

To be fair, a big reason players like Mane join us is as a stepping stone. It will help us attract the next round of signings.

 

Spot on. Happy to do that if we only let one key player go, not 2 or 3 each season.

[SO16_Saint]

It shouldn't be understated and forgotten that this, at £36M, will be the 24th highest transfer fee paid EVER, and the 8th highest an English club have paid, EVER.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers

Edited 27 June, 2016 by SO16_Saint

[saint77]

Regardless of the arguments and differing perceptions we have of ourselves, our image to outsiders is of a well run club who sadly cannot hold onto their best players. People I know who don't support Saints respect us but also pity us.

 

they don't they think of us as EVERY THING IS FOR SALE AND WE WILL COME UNSTUCK VERY SOON

[S-Clarke]

they don't they think of us as EVERY THING IS FOR SALE AND WE WILL COME UNSTUCK VERY SOON

 

It's a fire sale I tell you, a fire sale. Hold onto your hats

 

#meltdown

[Wade Garrett]

Was only a few weeks ago, when we lost Koeman, that the club were saying Mane would be more likely to stay as they didn't get on.

 

I do think sometimes, we the lifeblood of the club, are fed total bullsh*t.

 

That said, they are paying way over the top for him.

[Wade Garrett]

To be fair, a big reason players like Mane join us is as a stepping stone. It will help us attract the next round of signings.

 

Fair point, but on a footballing front, is it the correct policy to lose your best players every Summer?

[buctootim]

It shouldn't be understated and forgotten that this, at £36M, will be the 24th highest transfer fee paid EVER, and the 8th highest an English club have paid, EVER.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers

 

Andy Carroll was £35m.

[Wimborne_saint]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/sadio-mane-undergoes-liverpool-medical-8292477 pictured in liverpool, looks like the medical is all done now

[david in sweden]

..........£36 million ...nice one Les......

[simo]

So now our miniscule decrease on season tickets looks like even more of a joke! We won't be spending another 30 add million on player sales so the club will be pocketing the massive money we'll be getting from the new to deal!

[Sour Mash]

the only sustainable growth is Katrinas bank balance. We are a cash cow and whilst we are delighted to finish 7th and think that is some kind of achievement it will carry on. At least the club dont have to employ a cleaner for the trophy room.

People still pulling this sort of bants out on here

[HKsaint]

I was over the moon when we beat Liverpool by 3-2 as Mane scored twice and we came from behind. Mane will be sorely missed.

[doddisalegend]

Was only a few weeks ago, when we lost Koeman, that the club were saying Mane would be more likely to stay as they didn't get on.

 

I do think sometimes, we the lifeblood of the club, are fed total bullsh*t.

 

That said, they are paying way over the top for him.

 

Isn't the same as will stay though.

[doddisalegend]

Fair point, but on a footballing front, is it the correct policy to lose your best players every Summer?

 

I have a sneaky suspicion we'd struggle to sell our worst players every summer...

[CylonKing]

Mane goes, Vic goes and we get lots of money for them and already we've signed a young English winger with Premier League experience. What matters now is what happens in terms of the manager and who else we bring in. I'm pretty sure that if we finish the season next year in 4th or 5th place everyone will be happy and singing the new managers praises and commenting on how well we've rebuilt and developed the squad further. It is all about what the club do next. I'm hoping that we've already got replacements lined up for both Vic and Mane plus further squad development, plus longer contracts for other members of the squad. If this is the case and we show further improvement (maybe not league position but cup runs instead?) I think the club again can be happy with what it has done, but it all relies on the big IF.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

So now our miniscule decrease on season tickets looks like even more of a joke! We won't be spending another 30 add million on player sales so the club will be pocketing the massive money we'll be getting from the new to deal!

 

I Know!! I feel like having a good cry

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Whitey Grandad]

I was over the moon when we beat Liverpool by 3-2 as Mane scored twice and we came from behind. Mane will be sorely missed.

 

His replacement might have scored three. Yes, it was a great result but there were also games where he went missing and fluffed some easy sitters.

[St Chalet]

Fair point, but on a footballing front, is it the correct policy to lose your best players every Summer?

 

Definately not a good policy. But I think the club have started to get wiser with getting the players to pen longer deals. The issues we faced on Wanyama and to an extent Mane were around the length of their deal. Worth pointing out Pelle (1 Year) and Tadic (2 Years) left are in a similar, if less valuable boat.

 

We've also learnt to get our outs done quickly so we can concentrate on the new season with a new manager. We lost 3 last year in Clyne, Morgan and Toby (counting him), if we limit it to that this year we are in great shape to improve again.

[tajjuk]

Isn't the same as will stay though.

 

The club quite easily could have ensured that.

 

All you have to do is tell Liverpool hes not for sale.

[Whitey Grandad]

So now our miniscule decrease on season tickets looks like even more of a joke! We won't be spending another 30 add million on player sales so the club will be pocketing the massive money we'll be getting from the new to deal!

 

You now this for a fact? OMG another ITK.