Ewell Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 The one thing tonight's performance and result has told me is how important Steven Davis is to our team. His all energy work rate, tenacity and quality on the ball are a key element to the way we play. It's actually laughable how the majority of numpty's who put their starting XI's up have him on the bench. Maybe a few of them will wake up and smell the coffee now. Steven Davis is a KEY player for Southampton Football Club and I hope we have him back in the team soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 He was missed tonight. Where's the City build up thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 Davis is massive for us, i have always said this. As is Cork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 Davis is massive for us, i have always said this. As is Cork Cork much less than Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 Where does this myth that Steven Davis is not rated by saints fans come from? I really can't remember anyone not rating him he is possibly the most rated underrated player saints have every had. We should have won tonight's game comfortably even without Steven IMO. I do think Ronald got it wrong by trying to play Shane Long/Tadic in the Davis role tonight he should have played Cork as the AM leaving Shane Long (or Mane) as game changing sub for later in the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 Cork much less than Davis. Bet you won't be saying that if Victor gets injured like last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 I think it would be simplistic to say Davis was the reason for our poor performance tonight. After all he went off injured against Leicester following a fairly forgettable 0-0 performance by the team. In fact that first half wasn't all that different to tonight's performance, minus the error from Forster. Plenty of possession and a couple of decent chances without scoring. Having said all that, I do rate him and he is definitely in our strongest 11 at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 The one thing tonight's performance and result has told me is how important Steven Davis is to our team. His all energy work rate, tenacity and quality on the ball are a key element to the way we play. It's actually laughable how the majority of numpty's who put their starting XI's up have him on the bench. Maybe a few of them will wake up and smell the coffee now. Steven Davis is a KEY player for Southampton Football Club and I hope we have him back in the team soon. I knew this was coming if we didn't win. Nobody needs to wake up to Davis. His quality is obvious. His absence wasn't the reason we didn't play well and didn't win. Koeman could have put Cork in to replace Davis. He chose an extra forward to provide width to go round the inevitable banks of four. I'd have preferred Cork in for Davis and the fullbacks getting forward more. After all, it was they that got us the goal, whereas the wide players' crossing was poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 Davis is massive for us, i have always said this. As is Cork Davis yes... Cork no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 Bet you won't be saying that if Victor gets injured like last season. Well he isnt, and so Cork isnt first choice. Davis is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 The one thing tonight's performance and result has told me is how important Steven Davis is to our team. His all energy work rate, tenacity and quality on the ball are a key element to the way we play. It's actually laughable how the majority of numpty's who put their starting XI's up have him on the bench. Maybe a few of them will wake up and smell the coffee now. Steven Davis is a KEY player for Southampton Football Club and I hope we have him back in the team soon. I have to say I'm not sure many fans would have him on the bench. He is critical to the way we play and we all know that. Perhaps you're hanging around with too many non Saints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 Davis is a good player. Today however was about decision not to replace him with another centre mid cork but instead play long. Feels to me like didn't want to drop tadic/mane but wanted to reward long for his performance against Leicester. Hopefully he won't try that approach again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 Well he isnt, and so Cork isnt first choice. Davis is Yet. We would have been ****ed last season without Cork after Victor got injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 Yet. We would have been ****ed last season without Cork after Victor got injured. Im not saying he isnt an option, he is, and is a good player. But why everyone all of a sudden thought he could play the No.10 tonight is beyond me, he cant. His inclusion tonight wouldnt have made a difference as the midfield were just passengers. Davis we missed, Cork we didnt. There is a reason that Cork hasnt got a new contract, its the other 4 CMs that can play in that position (granted he is better than two of them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 We certainly missed Davis buzzing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 November, 2014 Share Posted 24 November, 2014 I have to say I'm not sure many fans would have him on the bench. He is critical to the way we play and we all know that. Perhaps you're hanging around with too many non Saints? Every build up thread sees a pile of people leaving Davis out of the side. He's one of our most creative players, and works his balls off too. He's been essential since we got in the Prem, but continues to be underrated. Having said that, we were awful all over the park today, looked jaded and playing at well beneath the usual tempo also made a lot of careless mistakes, loose passes, slow hospital balls, played behind runners, all sorts. The kind of mistakes you make when used to playing at a high tempo and not concentrating on the "easy" stuff. Not just explained by Davis' absence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 25 November, 2014 Share Posted 25 November, 2014 Watched the game live on TV.........and we did miss Davis in midfield.......thought Cork should have started and Long on as a Sub........just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 25 November, 2014 Share Posted 25 November, 2014 We certainly missed Davis buzzing around. I certainly agree we missed Davis, but Koeman set up the team wrong + Forster's mistake why we didn't win; not sure how much the Steven Davis had on the overall result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Malvo Posted 25 November, 2014 Share Posted 25 November, 2014 Davis is a good player. Today however was about decision not to replace him with another centre mid cork but instead play long. Feels to me like didn't want to drop tadic/mane but wanted to reward long for his performance against Leicester. Hopefully he won't try that approach again. Nail. Head. Change of formation tonight which didn't suit an away game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 25 November, 2014 Author Share Posted 25 November, 2014 Every build up thread sees a pile of people leaving Davis out of the side. He's one of our most creative players, and works his balls off too. He's been essential since we got in the Prem, but continues to be underrated. Thank you, exactly my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 25 November, 2014 Share Posted 25 November, 2014 Available for Sunday according to R. Solent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 25 November, 2014 Share Posted 25 November, 2014 We should have won tonight's game comfortably even without Steven IMO. I do think Ronald got it wrong by trying to play Shane Long/Tadic in the Davis role tonight he should have played Cork as the AM leaving Shane Long (or Mane) as game changing sub for later in the match. Agreed. We didn't look anywhere as near combative in the midfield without either Cork or Davis there. That is what both do for you, break up play, gain possession and progress play for you. Both of them aren't needed at the same time, but neither is it beneficial to have both of them absent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 25 November, 2014 Share Posted 25 November, 2014 Davis is one of those players you don't really notice during the course of the game with all due respect to him he is a bit of a hod carrier gets on with it and 90% of the time he just gets on with the simple things with out any fuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 25 November, 2014 Share Posted 25 November, 2014 We certainly missed Davis buzzing around.certainly got it wrong with Long in that position, were better with Tadic there. I don't think it would have been as noticeable if Prowsey had been fit to slot in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 25 November, 2014 Author Share Posted 25 November, 2014 Available for Sunday according to R. Solent. Superb news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 25 November, 2014 Share Posted 25 November, 2014 Tis indeed. Although coming back from injury to play Citeh is one way of getting straight back into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 November, 2014 Share Posted 25 November, 2014 Tis indeed. Although coming back from injury to play Citeh is one way of getting straight back into it. Doesn't he score all his goals against Citeh..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 25 November, 2014 Share Posted 25 November, 2014 Fantastic player for us. Work's his ball s off every came, passionate, loyal, not bad on assists but must score more goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 November, 2014 Share Posted 25 November, 2014 Easy to say people are stupid for not picking him in their team, but I don't recall anyone dropping him to accommodate Mane and Long up front. Davis is good, but if Cork had played I think we'd have done better, and more so JWP who will be the longer term replacement for Davis IMO. Not entirely sure how accomodating a 'tidy' CM would have helped us break down 10 men but its all opinions I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 26 November, 2014 Share Posted 26 November, 2014 regardless of what individual fans on here may say ... the fact that Saints recently extended his contract until 2018...... surely speaks volumes for the management's opinion of him...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 29 November, 2014 Author Share Posted 29 November, 2014 It looks like Ronald agrees with me and see's Davis as a key player. He also states he is a doubt for tomorrow which is a real shame and could be crucial! http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/11634623.___Key_player____Davis_a_doubt_for_vital_clash/?ref=mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunterboy99 Posted 29 November, 2014 Share Posted 29 November, 2014 It looks like Ronald agrees with me and see's Davis as a key player. He also states he is a doubt for tomorrow which is a real shame and could be crucial! http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/11634623.___Key_player____Davis_a_doubt_for_vital_clash/?ref=mac If there is a more under-rated yet more important player for Saints than Davis, then I havent seen him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 November, 2014 Share Posted 29 November, 2014 For the Love of god Steven Davis is not under rated. I really don't know one saints fan who doesn't rate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 29 November, 2014 Share Posted 29 November, 2014 He is the most rated player who is believed to be under rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 November, 2014 Share Posted 29 November, 2014 He is the most rated player who is believed to be under rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 November, 2014 Share Posted 29 November, 2014 Most people have been raving about Davis for about 2 years now. He might be underrated in the media but not by those who actually watch him. Getting a Labrador to lick Nutella of your ball sack, now that's underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 29 November, 2014 Share Posted 29 November, 2014 For the Love of god Steven Davis is not under rated. I really don't know one saints fan who doesn't rate him. us saints fans rate him well, its more the media who perceive him as someone who doesn't do much- only because they look at his goals/assists return rather than what he brings to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 30 November, 2014 Share Posted 30 November, 2014 He is the most rated player who is believed to be under rated. Yeah but he's only NI international so don't count for the sky plastics...........but we know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 30 November, 2014 Share Posted 30 November, 2014 He is the most rated player who is believed to be under rated. the 'is Steve Davis underrated' threads may have finally ceased. Although he might be getting overrated as if we had him Monday we would have hammered Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 November, 2014 Share Posted 30 November, 2014 the 'is Steve Davis underrated' threads may have finally ceased. Although he might be getting overrated as if we had him Monday we would have hammered Villa Hopefully Steven won't get Gastonillitis the condition whereby an injured/dropped player gets better every week they are not playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 30 November, 2014 Share Posted 30 November, 2014 Most people have been raving about Davis for about 2 years now. He might be underrated in the media but not by those who actually watch him. Getting a Labrador to lick Nutella of your ball sack, now that's underrated. Make sure it's not hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 30 November, 2014 Share Posted 30 November, 2014 Most people have been raving about Davis for about 2 years now. He might be underrated in the media but not by those who actually watch him. Getting a Labrador to lick Nutella of your ball sack, now that's underrated. AGREED !.I thought he was a class act when we signed him. He isn't that type of " glamour figure " that some players seek to be, but a real hard worker who never gives up. We all wish he could get a few more goals, but his contribution to the whole team's performance is worth far more than just goal stats. The fact that the club has extended his contract to 2018 shows the faith that the management has in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 November, 2014 Share Posted 30 November, 2014 It looks like Ronald agrees with me and see's Davis as a key player. He also states he is a doubt for tomorrow which is a real shame and could be crucial! http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/11634623.___Key_player____Davis_a_doubt_for_vital_clash/?ref=mac Without Ward Prowse to cover we lose a little creativity and link play between our defensive midfield and Pelle without Davies. This is bad news. If he's out my expectations slip to a draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 30 November, 2014 Share Posted 30 November, 2014 Steven Davis is a decent player but I'm afraid he's starting to become a bit of a victim of both our's and his own success insofar as he's a good Premiership-level player, but has nowhere near the kind of ability required to play in a top-six let, alone top-four side. If we want to be at either of those levels, we've got to do better I'm afraid. Good player, don't get me wrong, but that is where the ceiling on his ability lies. Exposed today I'm afraid against quite simply, better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 November, 2014 Share Posted 30 November, 2014 Steven Davis is a decent player but I'm afraid he's starting to become a bit of a victim of both our's and his own success insofar as he's a good Premiership-level player, but has nowhere near the kind of ability required to play in a top-six let, alone top-four side. If we want to be at either of those levels, we've got to do better I'm afraid. Good player, don't get me wrong, but that is where the ceiling on his ability lies. Exposed today I'm afraid against quite simply, better players. Only one thing to say about that, rubbish. Absolute tosh (OK thats 2 things). He made a mistake for our 2nd today, but otherwise was the difference between the appalling way we played on Monday and the way we played today which was good (except for the front three). He is the link between our defensive midfield and the attack and made us spark today, but sadly none of Tadic, Pelle or Mane were at the races and could not take advantage of his industry and vision. 2nd goal was completely his fault, no argument there, but we were chasing the game already and it looks like he may have tweaked his injury. His corners were a bit hit and miss, a couple of them were top class, but a couple of others were not great. Vic and Morgan (first half) were outstanding today and really restricted Man City to scraps in the first half. Thought Toby did very well in DM position when he came on and had no concerns about Yoshida filling in for him. No blame for Forster for any of the goals, and his recovery from the Aguero (?) break was brilliant, but he should have got the ball in the first place, he hesitated again just like on Monday because he was poorly positioned (again) and does not have the confidence to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 30 November, 2014 Share Posted 30 November, 2014 Steven Davis is a decent player but I'm afraid he's starting to become a bit of a victim of both our's and his own success insofar as he's a good Premiership-level player, but has nowhere near the kind of ability required to play in a top-six let, alone top-four side. If we want to be at either of those levels, we've got to do better I'm afraid. Good player, don't get me wrong, but that is where the ceiling on his ability lies. Exposed today I'm afraid against quite simply, better players. I agree, we need players like Rasiak. They will push us to the next level. Steven was used almost every week in our rise to 2nd, yet we need to do better. In spite of losing the ball before the 2nd goal he had a good game against a really tough opponent coming back from injury after only training normally on the eve of the game. Yet he is a victim of our own success. On the evidence of today, I guess 90% of our starting 11 is also a victim of our own success, as we're clearly not good enough to battle for the top positions with City and Chelsea! This is what annoys me about our fan base. We are always a predictable negative result away of sounding like Pompey fans and their constant delusion. Likewise, we are only a few wins away of a similar state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 30 November, 2014 Share Posted 30 November, 2014 Tis indeed. Although coming back from injury to play Citeh is one way of getting straight back into it. and a hard way it was too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 30 November, 2014 Share Posted 30 November, 2014 @Vectis Saint @Melmecian Do either of you think Steven Davis could play for a top-four team? Has any top-four team or big club shown an interest in him? If yes, please let me know. If not, please let me know at what level you believe he could play at? Top-six perhaps? Typical English fan syndrome. Mane gets written off after one bad game, Wanyama the same last season, fans were still rating Dean ****ing Hammond higher than Schneiderlin as late as 2012 and Gaston was always the scapegoat whenever he could be. However, Lambert, Cork, Davis and even Shane Long (though all are good players with decent attributes who've all made good contributions to the side in recent years) are utterly beyond criticism. Any criticism. Even suggesting that they could be improved upon or pointing out that they aren't good enough for a top six/top four team or that whilst they're decent, they do have weaknesses, seems to knaw at people who love a 'good, honest, British player!' And no, 90% of our staring XI isn't a victim of our own success. The entire back four as well as both central-midfielders could conceivably play for a top-four team. Even Tadic and Mane wouldn't look out of place at all for a Spurs or a Liverpool. Davis is a good lad and a great player, but he has his limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 30 November, 2014 Share Posted 30 November, 2014 @Vectis Saint @Melmecian Do either of you think Steven Davis could play for a top-four team? Has any top-four team or big club shown an interest in him? If yes, please let me know. If not, please let me know at what level you believe he could play at? Top-six perhaps? Yes - he plays for Southampton, who are currently a top 4 team. They have been for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 November, 2014 Share Posted 30 November, 2014 Ah good, we have one of those people who like to belittle Steven Davis and are constantly trying to replace him in the line-up! He's basically one of the first names on the team sheet, he's a terrific player and pivotal to the formation and way we play. If you can't see that, then I suggest you take a trip to specsavers. And how is the fact that no ''Top club'' has put in a bid for him take away from his ability to do a job for us? You say this is typical English fan syndrome, but I'd say your post is typical of a modern day football fan. Spend, spend, spend. Name, big names, big transfer fee's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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