Wiggles31 Posted 27 November, 2014 Author Posted 27 November, 2014 Love that because we drew away at Villa we are now on a downward spiral. Still predicting an entertaining draw.
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Who is the ref? Could have a significant impact as there are some who follow the unwritten rule of favouring the big clubs with all 50/50 decisions. It's going to be high tempo and very tasty. If we get an even handed and impartial referee I think our fitness and team spirit will see us remain 2nd after the game and shut up the nay sayers for a few more days. At least a draw I reckon. A win would be epic.
doddisalegend Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Love that because we drew away at Villa we are now on a downward spiral. Still predicting an entertaining draw. didn't they draw with QPR?
wessex saint Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 I'm still rather bemused that we haven't yet sold out for this one.
CWD Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Monday evening we played #2 son's team, Sunday we play the wife's team. Good job Bolton ( daughter ) & Blackpool ( #1 son ) are a division below us. That's an odd spread of teams... How did that happen!?
hasper57saint Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 One of their posters thinks that the game is on Saturday. If only!
Bearsy Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 That's an odd spread of teams... How did that happen!? sounds like badger has failed in his main duty of fatherhood; brainwashing children into supporting saints. SFC should publish a pamphlet or something! Badger cubs are slipping through our fingers yo!
Sour Mash Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Forster Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand Cork Wanyama Schneiderlin Tadic Pelle Mane Like Davis but think we need the 3 high energy tackling midfielders to get at them and not give any space. Only have a chance if Tadic has a good game and opens them up really. You'd think we can make chances. They won't get many, but obviously they'll probably take what they do get. First goal is huge. If we get it, I really don't see them coming back. You don't think Davis fits the description "high energy tackling midfielder"?
SNSUN Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 1-1 last season, with a weaker team and Gazzaniga in goal. There are point/s to be had in this one. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25164174
Saint_clark Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Chatting with a group of Villa supporters on the way back to the car on Monday night, their consensus was that we played with an eye on the the City game. They were very well aware of our upcoming fixtures. That was not how I saw it, but it is interesting to see how other supporters see things. Certainly how i saw it. Tadic was distracted all game and Pelle scared to get stuck in in case he got a booking.
Lets B Avenue Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Who is the ref? Could have a significant impact as there are some who follow the unwritten rule of favouring the big clubs with all 50/50 decisions. It's going to be high tempo and very tasty. If we get an even handed and impartial referee I think our fitness and team spirit will see us remain 2nd after the game and shut up the nay sayers for a few more days. At least a draw I reckon. A win would be epic. Mike Jones. Him that went down like a sack of sh it at Newcastle last year. The best "Bale" of the season.
Grigsy Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Not in the same way for me. More composed, better passer most the time and I'd pick him ahead of Cork if we were playing a lesser side than Man City. Plus he's been injured, and a good option from the bench. Davis should, and will, start if fit. Last thing to do against City is completely sit back. We need to play our normal game and go back to the system that has got us up to 2nd in the first place.
VectisSaint Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Forster Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand Cork Wanyama Schneiderlin Tadic Pelle Mane Like Davis but think we need the 3 high energy tackling midfielders to get at them and not give any space. Only have a chance if Tadic has a good game and opens them up really. You'd think we can make chances. They won't get many, but obviously they'll probably take what they do get. First goal is huge. If we get it, I really don't see them coming back. If Davis is fit he should be one of the first on the team sheet, think that was clearly demonstrated on Monday night. Assume what you mean from the bit in bold is that every chance they get they will score, so you are not expecting Forster to make any saves from on target chances. I'm not wholly convinced by FF yet, but I do hope that he will make some saves. His success rate is still about 75% of saves for on target chances.
Sour Mash Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Davis should, and will, start if fit. Last thing to do against City is completely sit back. We need to play our normal game and go back to the system that has got us up to 2nd in the first place. Exactly that, and thankfully its what I expect we'll do.
Yuki Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 I will be sat with the Kenyan Saints for this match up. Getting a large following over here now too. Yuki.
doddisalegend Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=308054&start=30 Some claiming we're declining due to performance against Villa. If they say so... They're Man city you probably could count on one hand the number of clubs they think are better than them and we certainly won't be one of them. The general feeling from their fans that they just have to turn up to win always makes getting a result against them much more fun and if we lose..............well it's man city isn't it.
Baird of the land Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Davis should, and will, start if fit. Last thing to do against City is completely sit back. We need to play our normal game and go back to the system that has got us up to 2nd in the first place. If he's a 100% fit i'd agree. If he's any less i'd prefer Cork to play and Davis eased back in from the bench.
saintbob40 Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Corks premier league starts this season..... makes interesting reading Played 4 Won 4 Goals for 14 Goals Against 0 Goals scored 2
Sour Mash Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Corks premier league starts this season..... makes interesting reading Played 4 Won 4 Goals for 14 Goals Against 0 Goals scored 2 Only a small sample of games, but they are ridiculous stats.
saintwbu Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Corks premier league starts this season..... makes interesting reading Played 4 Won 4 Goals for 14 Goals Against 0 Goals scored 2 I know some are going to say 'shows how important Cork is' and then others will reply 'but it was only against blah blah blah'. But what a great stat for Jack himself, not conceding a goal and averaging 3.5 goals per game when he's in the side. I for one will be very sad if this is Jack's final season with us, great professional.
doddisalegend Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 The thing is we have four really good centre mids (plus JWP and Reed as back up) you can argue which is the best three combo but the reality is we are probably going to have to rotate them over the coming few weeks with so many games. The argument is Jack Cork is the worst of the three but really does anyone say "oh ****" when they see him name on the team sheet? Any combination of Morgan, Victor, Jack or Steven is a ****ing good midfield. Considering how much running our midfield gets through I'd have no problem with players getting a rest on the bench as long as three of those four players are on the pitch.
newyork Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 I think cork could do a good job against City in the number 10. Thinking about it I would be happy with any of the 3 , Jack , Victor or morgen playing there
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 (edited) Corks premier league starts this season..... makes interesting reading Played 4 Won 4 Goals for 14 Goals Against 0 Goals scored 2 Only a small sample of games, but they are ridiculous stats. Am I wrong (quite conceivable, apologies if so) in thinking Corky started against Newcastle & Sunderland? Likely to skew the stats a little bit. Edited 27 November, 2014 by KelvinsRightGlove flipping autocorrect Stats not Stars
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 I think cork could do a good job against City in the number 10. Thinking about it I would be happy with any of the 3 , Jack , Victor or morgen playing there Sorry, are you suggesting Corky or Vic in the #10 role? Good players as they are, but they aint 10's.
S-Clarke Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 I think cork could do a good job against City in the number 10. Thinking about it I would be happy with any of the 3 , Jack , Victor or morgen playing there I'm not sure if you quite understand what a number 10 role is in that case!
The9 Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Am I wrong (quite conceivable, apologies if so) in thinking Corky started against Newcastle & Sunderland? Likely to skew the stars a little bit. You can only beat the teams in front of you (and a lot of teams would take our comprehensive win over Newcastle given their recent form).
The9 Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 I'm not sure if you quite understand what a number 10 role is in that case! Cork did pretty well in the hole for the 20-odd minutes he played it when he came on as sub earlier in the season (and scored), not sure I'd want him and his awful shooting in there for a whole match though, but if we want a combative midfield and Davis isn't fit then him, Schneiderlin and Wanyama would be the way to go, with them pushing forward in rotation to make them difficult to pick up. None of them are exactly through ball threaders, though Schneiderlin can pick a pass.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 I think we probably all agree that either Cork or Davis should come in for Mane or Long and revert to the shape that has served us so well so far. Main question is, which one comes in and which goes out. If Davis is fit, I think it's got to be him and in this game I would start Long (offers more defensively) with Mane as an impact sub. Forster, Clyne Fonte Alderweireld Bertrand, Wanyama Schniederlin Davis, Long Pelle Tadic
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 You can only beat the teams in front of you (and a lot of teams would take our comprehensive win over Newcastle given their recent form). Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not taking a pop at Corky. You're right of course, but the 14 goals for stat is mostly due to the oppo being so poor in the other games.
Saint Pete Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Forster Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand Davis Wanyama Schneiderlin Long Pelle Tadic I would play Davis if 100% fit, Cork if not. Long instead of Mane as in better form at present. I also think Tadic has been less effective in recent games when played on the right to allow Mane to play on the left. So I'd have Tadic back on the left where he was so good in earlier games.
Wade Garrett Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Toure has been crap the last 2 seasons against Saints. I don't think he likes playing against Vic. Stop him playing and we have a chance.
newyork Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 against a team like city we can afford a deeper number 10. the role demands attacking intent but also plenty of movement. I think some people misunderstand that the position does not need to be all out attack but an occupation of space. if we play are usual 3 up front this is a good option as we have seen before
Saint Pete Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Mane over Long. Nah, we need Long's work rate and ability to annoy the opposition in this one.
Sour Mash Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Toure has been crap the last 2 seasons against Saints. I don't think he likes playing against Vic. Stop him playing and we have a chance. Has Wanyama ever played against Toure?
Sour Mash Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 I think we probably all agree that either Cork or Davis should come in for Mane or Long and revert to the shape that has served us so well so far. Main question is, which one comes in and which goes out. If Davis is fit, I think it's got to be him and in this game I would start Long (offers more defensively) with Mane as an impact sub. Forster, Clyne Fonte Alderweireld Bertrand, Wanyama Schniederlin Davis, Long Pelle Tadic Agreed, that's what I'd go with for this.
Lets B Avenue Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Toure has been crap the last 2 seasons against Saints. I don't think he likes playing against Vic. Victor was injured and missed the home match last season and away, he came on for the last 10 mins , just in time for their 4th goal. 2 seasons ago he was playing for Celtic. Good theory otherwise.
S-Clarke Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Toure has been crap the last 2 seasons against Saints. I don't think he likes playing against Vic. Stop him playing and we have a chance. The highlight for me was when Morgan flicked the ball over his head, not once, but twice, and left him on a heap in the ground Genius.
Dalek2003 Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 The worst thing to do would be to go out all guns blazing and concede an early goal. I suggest we sit back and try and hit them on the counter.
Shroppie Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 The worst thing to do would be to go out all guns blazing and concede an early goal. I suggest we sit back and try and hit them on the counter. Yeah. Right.
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Toure has been crap the last 2 seasons against Saints. I don't think he likes playing against Vic. Stop him playing and we have a chance. Wasn't it last season that VW did the job on him and Toure got subbed?
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Wasn't it last season that VW did the job on him and Toure got subbed? Ah well never mind toadie
Spudders Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=308054&start=30 Some claiming we're declining due to performance against Villa. If they say so... To be fair, there's an awful lot of them acknowledging that this will be a difficult game for them
WealdSaint Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Second trip to St Mary's this season. The trains are up the shoot so it will take longer than normal to travel from Kent, but who cares The Lad & I are buzzing!
doddisalegend Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Wasn't it last season that VW did the job on him and Toure got subbed? Wasn't that Cork?
doddisalegend Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Interesting reading the report of last seasons home game again http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25164174 For about 2 minutes Osvaldo actually looked like the signing we all thought he was going to be teams for last time out below Southampton 25 Gazzaniga 22 Chambers 23 Shaw 16 Ward-Prowse 06 Fonte 05 Lovren 20 Lallana (Ramírez - 85' ) 18 Cork 17 Osvaldo (Lambert - 77' ) 08 Davis (Reed - 90' ) 09 Rodriguez Substitutes 03 Yoshida 07 Lambert 10 Ramírez 26 Hooiveld 38 Reed 40 Gallagher 41 Cropper Manchester City 30 Pantilimon 05 Zabaleta 13 Kolarov 25 Fernandinho 04 Kompany 26 Demichelis 07 Milner (Javi García - 62' ) 42 Y Touré (Dzeko - 79' ) 16 Agüero Booked 09 Negredo (Jesús Navas - 62' ) 08 Nasri Booked Substitutes 01 Hart 02 Richards 06 Lescott 10 Dzeko 14 Javi García 15 Jesús Navas 22 Clichy
lickierambert Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Interesting reading the report of last seasons home game again http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25164174 For about 2 minutes Osvaldo actually looked like the signing we all thought he was going to be teams for last time out below Southampton 25 Gazzaniga 22 Chambers 23 Shaw 16 Ward-Prowse 06 Fonte 05 Lovren 20 Lallana (Ramírez - 85' ) 18 Cork 17 Osvaldo (Lambert - 77' ) 08 Davis (Reed - 90' ) 09 Rodriguez Substitutes 03 Yoshida 07 Lambert 10 Ramírez 26 Hooiveld 38 Reed 40 Gallagher 41 Cropper Manchester City 30 Pantilimon 05 Zabaleta 13 Kolarov 25 Fernandinho 04 Kompany 26 Demichelis 07 Milner (Javi García - 62' ) 42 Y Touré (Dzeko - 79' ) 16 Agüero Booked 09 Negredo (Jesús Navas - 62' ) 08 Nasri Booked Substitutes 01 Hart 02 Richards 06 Lescott 10 Dzeko 14 Javi García 15 Jesús Navas 22 Clichy Only 1 of those 14 players played for us on Monday. Weird to think really
doddisalegend Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 Only 1 of those 14 players played for us on Monday. Weird to think really 2 if you count Corks 2 minutes but you look at that team who out played City last season and you have to say this seasons team look a lot better.
lickierambert Posted 27 November, 2014 Posted 27 November, 2014 2 if you count Corks 2 minutes but you look at that team who out played City last season and you have to say this seasons team look a lot better. Oh yeah, forgot about that. Still, frightening how many games Gazzaniga/Fox/Hooiveld played last year
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