norwaysaint Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 We seem to hear loads about left wing types getting a bit precious and easily offended by possibly harmless things, but this one seems to be the other way: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30139832 A picture of a house with no comment added at all and she's lambasted and pushed into resignation? UKIP said she had "sneered, and looked down her nose at a white van in Strood with the cross of St George on it". Has she? Where was that then? All that from the words: Image from Rochester. Why isn't this "PC gone mad"? You can't post a photo of a house without it offending someone? Are UKIP and their followers now turning into the over sensitive PC brigade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 Is it just "left wing types" now though. I know all types of people who are now careful about being PC. Although she didn't say anything there was an inference in the picture about "white van man" and nationalism. She knew what she had done and that is why she resigned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 But there wasn't a huge reaction, she resigned before there was even much of a response. For what its worth I don't think she should have resigned - she is more than entitled to her views and should be allowed to express them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 I searched three times for the offensive words because I kept just seeing a picture of a house and "an image from" and assumed I'd missed something. Couldn't believe that was what all the fuss was about. I grew up in Weston, doesn't stop me being snobby about the the fact the current residents have put wagon wheels all over it (fake wagon wheels on a council estate house ffs!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 As soon as I saw the picture I knew what it meant. The timing wasn't brilliant either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 As soon as I saw the picture I knew what it meant. The timing wasn't brilliant either. That's why she had to resign - the senior Labour hierarchy would have looked at that and realised what a ridiculous own goal it was - she was trying to take the p**s out of the community they are asking for votes from. Not a bright move to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 As soon as I saw the picture I knew what it meant. The timing wasn't brilliant either. The picture would have been a virtual work of art worthy of Martin Parr if she'd only managed to include the van/house owner in the shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 Just be thankful it wasn't a nasty Tory. There'd be riots on the streets by now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 There wont be any Tories left soon, they will all defect to UKIP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 I searched three times for the offensive words because I kept just seeing a picture of a house and "an image from" and assumed I'd missed something. Couldn't believe that was what all the fuss was about. I grew up in Weston, doesn't stop me being snobby about the the fact the current residents have put wagon wheels all over it (fake wagon wheels on a council estate house ffs!) Remember when wagon wheels used to be massive? Can't stand the fake ones either, the marshmallow is all wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 What a fuss about nothing! The World's gone mad. I loathe the way that the PC brigade have turned into the thought police and they should all be told to go to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 I agree that it has gone too far the other way, but people know what to expect now but still get tripped up by social media. You'd think by now politicians and people in the public eye would be a bit more savvy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 It wasn't the only photo she posted, i'm fairly pc but i fail to see what the offence caused could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 Effectively she was taking the **** in a rather supercilious manner. Thats fine we all do that now and again to people, but perhaps not to those whose taxes contribute towards their ministerial salary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 21 November, 2014 Author Share Posted 21 November, 2014 Funny and unexpected to see UKIP becoming the new PC brigade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 Funny and unexpected to see UKIP becoming the new PC brigade. Except they haven't. See Ed Milliband's reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 Funny and unexpected to see UKIP becoming the new PC brigade. UKIP aren't really the ones complaining. And the tweet wasn't about UKIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 What annoys me the most is masses of people complaining about being offended on behalf of people who might be offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 Steve Hughes sums it up nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 Forcing a MP to resign from the Shadow Cabinet over a issue as trivial as this is a gross overreaction to my way of thinking, but a illustration of just how fearful of a media 'feeding frenzy' the party leaders have become now in this pre election period. I don't know much about this particular MP or how far she might have gone in politics, but our politicians will (like everyone else) make mistakes and if we end careers for a judgement error as minor as this one then we risk needlessly losing talent that might possibly have gone on to achieve something worthwhile one day. The only way to avoid saying or doing the wrong thing every now and again is to neither say nor do anything. Are a generation of 'do nothing/say nothing' leaders what this country really needs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 Pure The Thick of It She'd have got my respect if she said I don't want this chavvy cvnt's vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 Forcing a MP to resign from the Shadow Cabinet over a issue as trivial as this is a gross overreaction to my way of thinking, but a illustration of just how fearful of a media 'feeding frenzy' the party leaders have become now in this pre election period. I don't know much about this particular MP or how far she might have gone in politics, but our politicians will (like everyone else) make mistakes and if we end careers for a judgement error as minor as this one then we risk needlessly losing talent that might possibly have gone on to achieve something worthwhile one day. The only way to avoid saying or doing the wrong thing every now and again is to neither say nor do anything. Are a generation of 'do nothing/say nothing' leaders what this country really needs? Surely putting a picture of a voters house, without their permission and seemingly in a sneering manner is a spectacular lack of judgement. Can you imagine the uproar Labour would have made if a Tory cabinet member did this. What made this so toxic for Milliband is that it plays into the narrative that they are London elite that doesn't understand the working people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 First they get a tax-payer funded new stadium and now they have the power to have politicians sacked on the spot. West Ham fans rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 You could imagine the outrage of this was a house with Islamic/Eastern Europe insignia on display with a UKIP sneering tweet!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 Surely putting a picture of a voters house, without their permission and seemingly in a sneering manner is a spectacular lack of judgement. Can you imagine the uproar Labour would have made if a Tory cabinet member did this. What made this so toxic for Milliband is that it plays into the narrative that they are London elite that doesn't understand the working people. It's a picture mate, nobody died. Look at the mistakes Churchill made in his career before he became Prime Minister in 1940 - including the Gallipoli disaster - and ask yourself whether WC would have survived to become the one of the greatest leaders this country has ever seen were he a 21st century politician. Not that I'm saying that this MP is a politician of his substance you understand ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 21 November, 2014 Share Posted 21 November, 2014 It's a picture mate, nobody died. Look at the mistakes Churchill made in his career before he became Prime Minister in 1940 - including the Gallipoli disaster - and ask yourself whether WC would have survived to become the one of the greatest leaders this country has ever seen were he a 21st century politician. Not that I'm saying that this MP is a politician of his substance you understand ... Yes but this is a time in which most people believe that politicians are; Only thinking of themselves, eliteist Idiots who are out of touch with the people. So its a bit short sighted to basically prove it on social media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 22 November, 2014 Share Posted 22 November, 2014 The only way to avoid saying or doing the wrong thing every now and again is to neither say nor do anything. Are a generation of 'do nothing/say nothing' leaders what this country really needs? Only if you think that the only way to do something or say something these days is to use twitter or facebook. Surely putting a picture of a voters house, without their permission and seemingly in a sneering manner is a spectacular lack of judgement. They don't teach judgement when you're studying for your honours degree in political science at your local tech college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 22 November, 2014 Share Posted 22 November, 2014 Although she didn't say anything there was an inference in the picture about "white van man" and nationalism. Exactly right. Good to see you agree with the original post. As you rightly point out , there was an inference, which as you know is on the part of the receiver. As opposed to implication, which would have been on the part of Thornberry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 22 November, 2014 Share Posted 22 November, 2014 Exactly right. Good to see you agree with the original post. As you rightly point out , there was an inference, which as you know is on the part of the receiver. As opposed to implication, which would have been on the part of Thornberry. Oh come on, it's blatantly obvious what she implied by tweeting that picture. Are you 12 years old or something? The fat c*nt had no choice but to resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 22 November, 2014 Author Share Posted 22 November, 2014 Oh come on, it's blatantly obvious what she implied by tweeting that picture. Are you 12 years old or something? The fat c*nt had no choice but to resign. Clear case of PC gone mad. Can't say anything without risking offending someone, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stug76 Posted 22 November, 2014 Share Posted 22 November, 2014 Clear case of PC gone mad. Can't say anything without risking offending someone, etc. You can't mock the electorate and expect then to vote for you. More to the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 November, 2014 Share Posted 22 November, 2014 Clear case of PC gone mad. Can't say anything without risking offending someone, etc. Clear case of you utterly failing to grasp the basics of this story. You've done a cracking job of demonstrating your feeble understanding a few times on this thread. We get it. You don't get it. Give up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 22 November, 2014 Share Posted 22 November, 2014 PC is a fallacy of sorts. The term only exists to provide balance for hate speech. Politics these days is extremely polarised, and needs these extremes to perpetuate the divide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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