Fitzhugh Fella Posted 16 November, 2014 Posted 16 November, 2014 Six Saints players who participated in the "mind over matter" fire walking exercise during the 2013 pre-season have now gone on to win their first England cap and all within a period of just 15 months. All six were involved on our first home game that season v Sunderland and while Lambert had just won his first cap by then, who could have predicted five of his colleagues that afternoon would soon join him in an England shirt. The only other Englishman involved in that game for us was Ward-Prowse. Will he make it 7 out of 7?
sandwichsaint Posted 16 November, 2014 Posted 16 November, 2014 RL LS AL NC CC JR What we really should have done was kept all our old team AND added the new players, We were 30m pound away from CL certainties ................. or something like that. And changed manager obviously......
norwaysaint Posted 16 November, 2014 Posted 16 November, 2014 Hasn't fire walking been shown to be harmless as long as you do it at the right speed? Why is it still a thing people bother with? It's not mind over matter at all, it's just believing in the physics.
Fan The Flames Posted 16 November, 2014 Posted 16 November, 2014 norwaysaint said: Hasn't fire walking been shown to be harmless as long as you do it at the right speed? Why is it still a thing people bother with? It's not mind over matter at all, it's just believing in the physics. No but it's still a leap of faith the trust the physics.
Manuel Posted 16 November, 2014 Posted 16 November, 2014 Well "Fan the Flames" would be in favour, wouldn't he? Maybe we should concentrate more on this firewalking and less on the "conventional" football training and management.
david in sweden Posted 16 November, 2014 Posted 16 November, 2014 .....not really a good cure for bunions, though
Sour Mash Posted 16 November, 2014 Posted 16 November, 2014 Fitzhugh Fella said: Six Saints players who participated in the "mind over matter" fire walking exercise during the 2013 pre-season have now gone on to win their first England cap and all within a period of just 15 months. All six were involved on our first home game that season v Sunderland and while Lambert had just won his first cap by then, who could have predicted five of his colleagues that afternoon would soon join him in an England shirt. The only other Englishman involved in that game for us was Ward-Prowse. Will he make it 7 out of 7? Its an amazing record, I doubt any club has managed even close to something similar. Add in Schneiderlin getting his France debut and Fonte getting called up for Portugal (I reckon he might get a debut against Argentina this week), the record is even more impressive. To answer your question fully, I'm not sure Ward-Prowse will quite make it to international level, but he's got loads of time to prove me wrong.
norwaysaint Posted 16 November, 2014 Posted 16 November, 2014 It is nice that being good for saints now means you have a good chance of an international call up. When we were last doing well, there was never any real talk of call ups for Oakley, Marsden, erm...Ormerod? Dodd never got close to the full squad. Delap only got a few caps, Beattie was very lucky to get a cap before he left. nowadays we're all a bit annoyed if one of our regulars doesn't get a call up, shows that we consider this to be among the best saints teams ever put together.
positivepete Posted 16 November, 2014 Posted 16 November, 2014 FF, is there a definitive list of players who won their first international caps whilst playing for Southampton? I seem to recal there used to be an honours board at the Dell which included all international caps, but our recent record of first caps is mightily impressive.
niceandfriendly Posted 17 November, 2014 Posted 17 November, 2014 norwaysaint said: Hasn't fire walking been shown to be harmless as long as you do it at the right speed? Why is it still a thing people bother with? It's not mind over matter at all, it's just believing in the physics. Lol, yeah why do people bother with one of the most proven psychological tests out there? Baffling.
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 17 November, 2014 Author Posted 17 November, 2014 positivepete said: FF, is there a definitive list of players who won their first international caps whilst playing for Southampton? I seem to recal there used to be an honours board at the Dell which included all international caps, but our recent record of first caps is mightily impressive. Yea there is a definitive list which the club tweeted this weekend. I think the nos is around 18 but I will check
Saint Charlie Posted 17 November, 2014 Posted 17 November, 2014 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/536169/England-football-James-Ward-Prowse-Jack-Wilshere-international-break-news Roy talking up JWP. For me he isnt good enough defensively in that role.
david in sweden Posted 17 November, 2014 Posted 17 November, 2014 Fitzhugh Fella said: Six Saints players who participated in the "mind over matter" fire walking exercise during the 2013 pre-season have now gone on to win their first England cap and all within a period of just 15 months. All six were involved on our first home game that season v Sunderland and while Lambert had just won his first cap by then, who could have predicted five of his colleagues that afternoon would soon join him in an England shirt. The only other Englishman involved in that game for us was Ward-Prowse. Will he make it 7 out of 7? interesting observation Duncan, a bit of a change from the expression " getting your fingers burnt ", I suppose. Firewalking ?....mind over matter ...........still if they don't mind, it doesn't really matter.
david in sweden Posted 17 November, 2014 Posted 17 November, 2014 Saint Charlie said: http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/536169/England-football-James-Ward-Prowse-Jack-Wilshere-international-break-news Roy talking up JWP. For me he isnt good enough defensively in that role. well that can't be too bad- even talking up an injured player. Although he's still learning, JWP oozes confidence and communicates well. In 5 years ...possibly even Captain material?
sotonist Posted 17 November, 2014 Posted 17 November, 2014 Are we sure it wasn't all the hand shaking or the pushing their heads against each other's hands? It might even have been the catering at the venue, that is responsible.
sotonist Posted 17 November, 2014 Posted 17 November, 2014 sotonist said: Are we sure it wasn't all the hand shaking or the pushing their heads against each other's hands? It might even have been the catering at the venue, that is responsible. also the team building exercise
positivepete Posted 17 November, 2014 Posted 17 November, 2014 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20141116-nathaniel-clyne-england-debut-southampton-2086083.aspx That is the England player list, so do we have a list of other players from other countries who made their international debuts whilst playing for Saints?n Gareth Bale for Wales, Ian Baird for Northern Ireland, etc?
david in sweden Posted 18 November, 2014 Posted 18 November, 2014 positivepete said: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20141116-nathaniel-clyne-england-debut-southampton-2086083.aspx That is the England player list, so do we have a list of other players from other countries who made their international debuts whilst playing for Saints?n Gareth Bale for Wales, Ian Baird for Northern Ireland, etc? Er.....Chris Baird ??? and probably....Morgan Schneiderlin for France.
positivepete Posted 18 November, 2014 Posted 18 November, 2014 david in sweden said: Er.....Chris Baird ??? and probably....Morgan Schneiderlin for France. Oops, indeed!
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