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Saint Charlie

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He'd be mad to go to City. Thing is with footballers, they always believe they're good enough (money helps) so the likelihood of him spending years on the bench won't put him off.

 

I like him and hope he stays. Personally I think he owes us after the rehab of his injury.

 

From his perspective the trebled wages would be a big consideration.

 

As for oweing us, you could argue a 20m fee for someone you bought for 6-7m means he owes us nothing. We would (and have) been mutully beneficial for each other.

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What's all this "he owes us nothing" bollix? We gave him a contract and stage to perform on. We as a club owe him nothing, and he "owes" us more than we do him, that is, if anyone owes anyone anything.

 

We don't owe him nor does he owe us.

 

Him joining us has been great for both parties whatever happens now which is either he plays for us (preferred) or we make a big profit on him.

 

Injuries happen all the time, we rehab him because he is currently our player and its obviously in our interests to have him fit and in his interests to get fit quickly.

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I Think You're all jumping the gun.

 

Jay-Rod will do nothing until he knows he has completely recovered from his career ending injury.

 

He will not be leaving in January unless Saints believe it's in their interests.

 

when was the last time a top player ended his career with his first injury like this?

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From his perspective the trebled wages would be a big consideration.

 

As for oweing us, you could argue a 20m fee for someone you bought for 6-7m means he owes us nothing. We would (and have) been mutully beneficial for each other.

 

Like I said, personally I feel he does. Something puts my nose out of joint a bit having taken a chance on him to bring him to the PL, turn him into an international footballer, help him through the rehab (obviously an obligation), offer him a lengthy contract when still injured just for him to jump ship right away to sit on someone's bench. Just my personal opinion.

 

Anyway, not happened yet....

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Like I said, personally I feel he does. Something puts my nose out of joint a bit having taken a chance on him to bring him to the PL, turn him into an international footballer, help him through the rehab (obviously an obligation), offer him a lengthy contract when still injured just for him to jump ship right away to sit on someone's bench. Just my personal opinion.

 

Anyway, not happened yet....

 

But conversely he's also upheld his end of the bargain in every way, so I am not sure how / why he would owe us anything. He's been a model professional and played his part in the clubs success over the last two seasons. It's been a mutually beneficial relationship.

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I've got no idea if true or not, but is he Man City's quality? Are the newspaper articles suggesting a January sale? Are there that many teams that will be happy sinking big money in a player who has had so long off for such a serious injury? I guess he helps with the homegrown quota.

 

This is what I was thinking. JRod is good but not that good and nobody yet knows if he will be as good as he was before the injury. Got Scott Sinclair/Alan Johnson/Jack Rodwell written all over it if the reports are of course true and he decides to go.

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Ashton

 

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Holden (all but)

 

That Haaland injury really boils my p*ss. After all the ched evans rape stuff and "he shouldn't be allowed near football anymore", I don't understand how that rabid pitbull known as roy keane can still stalk the airwaves.

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If any club is mad enough to offer top dollar for JRod, I can see the club taking it. Gazza and Shearer ( I think) were never the same after a similar injury, and as Ron like his wingers to be 'nippy' and Jay would not displace Graziano, I'm not sure where he would fit in…..

 

If he gets back to anything like last season.

In place of mane I would have thought

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If any club is mad enough to offer top dollar for JRod, I can see the club taking it. Gazza and Shearer ( I think) were never the same after a similar injury, and as Ron like his wingers to be 'nippy' and Jay would not displace Graziano, I'm not sure where he would fit in…..

 

A vast majority of Shearer's career (and goals) came after his acl injury.

 

Personally I think J Rod will still be here after January and I hope he can reach the same level he reached last season. For those people questioning whether he'd get into our team or suggesting we sell him in order to buy someone else, I think you're mad. All of the players that Ronald inherited have improved this season and I think J-Rod especially could flourish under the new system. We may be doing better than any of us could have imagined but we'll be better still if Koeman has a fully fit Rodriguez at his disposal.

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That Haaland injury really boils my p*ss. After all the ched evans rape stuff and "he shouldn't be allowed near football anymore", I don't understand how that rabid pitbull known as roy keane can still stalk the airwaves.

 

Very true scotty, footballs full of grade a w*nkers. The game has no morals. I expect Mr Evans to play his first game after xmas

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I'm definitely of the view that Jay should show a sense of loyalty to the club after so much has been spent on his rehabilitation. I know it's an obligation but if my office spent loads of money trying to train me to achieve a promotion, I would then feel a bit bad if I upped and left.

 

That said, I actually think Shane Long is as good a player as Rodriguez (I understand this may not be a widely held belief!) and if we get £20m for a player that hasn't played for 6 months then that's actually good business. I like Jay, and think we are stronger with him in the squad, but we could replace him fairly easily.

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Here's the Mail's piece http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2838478/Harry-Kane-Andros-Townsend-demanded-Southampton-Tottenham-want-sign-Jay-Rodriguez-January.html

 

Definite "or" while Mirror has a definite "and". Somewhat of a difference!!! So who is talking ballox? The Mirror, The Mail or both? Certainly if JRod is valued at £20m, then the Mail is way of with their values. As we are an "unwilling" seller, the price will be higher for Spurs than if we were trying to shift him like they are with half their players, so the Mirror might be closer.

 

But I get the feeling that JRod isn't going to be with us and he is now a pawn in this great game of transfer fees

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-want-harry-kane-andros-4644397

 

Apparantly any deal to spurs would need to include both Townsend and Kane

 

If he was to leave Id definately take that

 

I'm still not sure I'd definitely take that. How many Premier League games has Kane started in his career? And I'm not a fan of Townsend at all.

 

On the other hand it would give us a fair bit of depth to our squad and would hit Spurs in a way - their fans would be up in arms if they got rid of Kane.

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I'm still not sure I'd definitely take that. How many Premier League games has Kane started in his career? And I'm not a fan of Townsend at all.

 

On the other hand it would give us a fair bit of depth to our squad and would hit Spurs in a way - their fans would be up in arms if they got rid of Kane.

 

 

AGREE totally Sour Mash.

 

I think Kane is a good prospect,and would be a good addition to the sqaud, but I've never been convinced about Townsend, although he has a good turn of pace and has scored a few spectacular goals - he doesn't look like a 90 minute team player to me)

 

......plus (as I have argued before on this site), rarely do London-based players seem to " settle down" to the mindset of life on the South Coast.

Historically, the list of unsatisfactory buys outweighs those who actually DAJFU. IF we were to carry through a deal like that ..but it would be a win-win situation for Saints - even if only one was a success.

 

Tottenham would take all the (financial) risk, but then again they seem to have money to burn anyway, and perhaps they " owe us a bit back" morally-speaking...for the Bale deal.

 

The big question however, is not ours to answer. That is the fitness issue with Jay Rod. I do like him as a player, (even when he was at Burnley), and IMO he got a raw deal when signed by Adkins and was stuck out to rot on the left wing. His real success came in a more traditional striker role. No-one can doubt his class when you see his performances just prior to his unfortunate injury but now he must firstly, regain 100% fitness, and the form that he once had. Thereby lies the key to success or failure.

Fans can be notoriously fickle - if a new signing doesn't show success from Day 1 (as could be seen with the "mixed reactions " on this site after Pelle's first few games). Everything takes time.

 

I genuinely wish Jay Rod well (whether he stays or goes), but I think the success he's had was in part due to the side he played in..... rather than just individual skill / talent.

Looking back 10 years, and the success and acclaim that James Beattie had....we all recall the rapid downfall that followed his disasterous move to Everton. I'd hate the same to happen to Jay.

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I'm still not sure I'd definitely take that. How many Premier League games has Kane started in his career? And I'm not a fan of Townsend at all.

 

On the other hand it would give us a fair bit of depth to our squad and would hit Spurs in a way - their fans would be up in arms if they got rid of Kane.

 

The Spuds fans would be absolutely livid!

I live and work amongst loads of them, and they currently regard Levy as highly as most of the Saints fans did Lowe at his absolute nadir.

 

To them, Kane is the only spark in their season so far and to exchange him for a recovering ACL casualty (as good as JayRod is) would signal a mobilisation of pitchforks and burning torches at White Hart Lane!

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would love it if we got Kane (not that we will)

he is loved by spurs fans as is a rare local boy for them...

 

he is having a very good season and for some reason, MP wont really give him a run in the league

he is going to be a very good player...

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Kane yes, but not Towsend.

 

Kane Id take definately, I think he has the potential to be a v good player. Townsend Im a bit Meh about. We are linked with two wingers that are similar, one being Redmond and the other Townsend. Im sure there is better out there than those two, but if I had to pick one it would probably be townsend

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would love it if we got Kane (not that we will)

he is loved by spurs fans as is a rare local boy for them...

 

he is having a very good season and for some reason, MP wont really give him a run in the league

he is going to be a very good player...

 

I've said before I think Kane has it in him to be a v decent player, and I would have no objection to him coming to Saints (don't think it is very likely).

 

However, whilst he has scored some goals, it's what? One heavily deflected free-kick in the league? The rest have come in the cups against lesser teams.

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It would still be a major surprise to me if either Spurs or Man City are prepared to take a gamble on signing Jay until he has come back properly and proved that he can still be the player he was last season after such a serious injury. I know they can do medicals but surely they do not tell the whole story about how his body is going to react to tackling, playing 2 games in a week, etc? Only when he is back playing regular premier league football will they truly know what they are buying.

 

So I think a lot will depend on the timing of his comeback for us, and how he looks when he does come back.

 

That said, I suppose you can never rule anything out with Spurs - if they are desperate enough, they may still take the risk?!

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would love it if we got Kane (not that we will)

he is loved by spurs fans as is a rare local boy for them...

 

he is having a very good season and for some reason, MP wont really give him a run in the league

he is going to be a very good player...

 

They have a couple of local boys in and around the first team though...although they do seem to like Kane.

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AGREE totally Sour Mash.

 

I think Kane is a good prospect,and would be a good addition to the sqaud, but I've never been convinced about Townsend, although he has a good turn of pace and has scored a few spectacular goals - he doesn't look like a 90 minute team player to me)

 

......plus (as I have argued before on this site), rarely do London-based players seem to " settle down" to the mindset of life on the South Coast.

Historically, the list of unsatisfactory buys outweighs those who actually DAJFU. IF we were to carry through a deal like that ..but it would be a win-win situation for Saints - even if only one was a success.

 

Tottenham would take all the (financial) risk, but then again they seem to have money to burn anyway, and perhaps they " owe us a bit back" morally-speaking...for the Bale deal.

 

The big question however, is not ours to answer. That is the fitness issue with Jay Rod. I do like him as a player, (even when he was at Burnley), and IMO he got a raw deal when signed by Adkins and was stuck out to rot on the left wing. His real success came in a more traditional striker role. No-one can doubt his class when you see his performances just prior to his unfortunate injury but now he must firstly, regain 100% fitness, and the form that he once had. Thereby lies the key to success or failure.

Fans can be notoriously fickle - if a new signing doesn't show success from Day 1 (as could be seen with the "mixed reactions " on this site after Pelle's first few games). Everything takes time.

 

I genuinely wish Jay Rod well (whether he stays or goes), but I think the success he's had was in part due to the side he played in..... rather than just individual skill / talent.

Looking back 10 years, and the success and acclaim that James Beattie had....we all recall the rapid downfall that followed his disasterous move to Everton. I'd hate the same to happen to Jay.

 

How can Townsend have scored a 'few' spectacular goals. He has only scored 1 in his entire Tottenham career (and 2 for England).

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would love it if we got Kane (not that we will)

he is loved by spurs fans as is a rare local boy for them...

 

he is having a very good season and for some reason, MP wont really give him a run in the league

he is going to be a very good player...

i'm one of the few who dont rate him. To be fair i havent seen lots of him though
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How can Townsend have scored a 'few' spectacular goals. He has only scored 1 in his entire Tottenham career (and 2 for England).

 

 

Of course there isn't a lot of goal history to analyse, but since he was 18, he's had 9 different loan-out (all lower league) and managed a career total of 12 league goals.

 

He seems to have a reputation for good solo efforts at almost every loan club, and came to fame with a couple of memorable strikes whilst on loan at QPR,..... and of course that debut goal for England.

 

.......so I repeat he has scored a few spectacular goals, but 12 goals from 130-odd apps. isn't such a good return and certainly not for the valuation he seemingly commands.

 

Overall . I'm not greatly impressed. Would MUCH prefer Harry Kane.

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Is Jay Rod actually nearing any sort of return. Barely mentioned by Saints in these heady days...

 

The latest on a random website, in which the author claims to have spoken to people at the club, is that he's got some swelling on the knee so is looking at January now.

 

But yeah, I also find the official club silence on Jay quite telling.

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