jawillwill Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 In relation to the world cup bidding process. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 I'm thinking that FIFA is a organisation that is fundamentally rotten to the core and that Sepp Blatter clings to power like the corrupt dictator of some 'Banana Republic' who fears that should he ever lose power his replacement will have him put up against a wall and shot. Apart from that I feel the game is in good hands ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30031405 This is all I could find about it, still speculation at the moment but nothing would surprise me with FIFA ! The whole thing stinks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 In relation to the world cup bidding process. Thoughts? It takes years and years and years of practice to become competently corrupt. Newbies will be found out straight away. So I've been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 I'm thinking that FIFA is a organisation that is fundamentally rotten to the core and that Sepp Blatter clings to power like the corrupt dictator of some 'Banana Republic' who fears that should he ever lose power his replacement will have him put up against a wall and shot. Apart from that I feel the game is in good hands ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 It's getting to the stage where England should just pull out of FIFA and look into setting up a rival World Body. I'm sure there would be quite a few countries that would follow. England still have a lot of clout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 A carve-up of the same magnitude as the Hutton Inquiry.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 It's getting to the stage where England should just pull out of FIFA and look into setting up a rival World Body. I'm sure there would be quite a few countries that would follow. England still have a lot of clout. I would absolutely love it if we did this, however football is now so firmly indebted to the Middle East I can't see it happening. Barca, Citeh & PSG all ME involved, as is Platini. If we did pull out of FIFA, how would that affect the Premier league? Whose rules would they abide by? Genuinely don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 It's a disgrace and an absolute whitewash as we all knew it would be. Nothing will change for years, let's hope blatter pops his clogs soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Let's smear the biggest footballing nation with some Mickey Mouse cobblers and while everyone is looking at them shaking their heads, we pull up a bit more carpet to hide more of this stuff under............ Admittedly the FA can be a bunch of dopey buggers at times. I like the way the Russians bid teams computers containing emails were destroyed (if I read it right) on FIFAs instruction!! Is just cast off merely as "oh well these things happen". Ah well won't be seeing a World Cup on these shores again in my lifetime............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Let's smear the biggest footballing nation with some Mickey Mouse cobblers and while everyone is looking at them shaking their heads, we pull up a bit more carpet to hide more of this stuff under............ Admittedly the FA can be a bunch of dopey buggers at times. I like the way the Russians bid teams computers containing emails were destroyed (if I read it right) on FIFAs instruction!! Is just cast off merely as "oh well these things happen". Ah well won't be seeing a World Cup on these shores again in my lifetime............ And we are the ones criticised because we clearly will have been the only ones who cooperated fully with the process! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 I would absolutely love it if we did this, however football is now so firmly indebted to the Middle East I can't see it happening. Barca, Citeh & PSG all ME involved, as is Platini. If we did pull out of FIFA, how would that affect the Premier league? Whose rules would they abide by? Genuinely don't know. It may not be that Qatar has been any more or less corrupt than other bid winner in the past. The difference this time is the sheer surreal absurdity of a World Cup in the Arabian Gulf in the Summer. So a withdrawal of the FA from FIFA wouldn't be aimed at Middle Eastern interests as such, but rather at FIFA itself, which is, as has been said, an appalling banana republic which has serially damaged the interests of football in return for copious kickbacks. So I don't think it conflicts with ME investment in the Prem. Pulling out of FIFA sounds appealing, at least if it's used as a nuclear option in a determined bid to reform an organisation that, like F1, has done more than any to damage the sport. But the minute we start talking about the FA as a leader of a reform movement it all starts to sound a bit ridiculous. And my guess is FIFA knows this - it's a battle of the chronically corrupt vs the chronically hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Is anyone else able to imagine Greg dyke leading world football reform...????? Nope, neither can I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Stay in UEFA, unilaterally pull out of FIFA, and let any country without a conscience enjoy future World Cups and more corruption. I honestly wouldn't be bothered if only England pulled out. The World Cup and FIFA are tainted and rotten to the core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindsorSaint Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Corruption Report "corrupt" http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30037729 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Not at all surprising, the organisation is so corrupt this inquest was never going to get anywhere near uncovering what went on. I still don't think the Quatar World Cup will go ahead. Its a ****ing bonkers idea to hold it in a scummy middle eastern sh!te hole like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Corruption Report "corrupt" http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30037729 Well that's a shock that absolutely no one expected... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Here's a petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/the-english-fa-to-end-association-with-fifa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 If Garcia is claimimg his findings have been improperly represented or worse then in the long run this may be a good thing. Blatter and his minnions have tried to dress up a PR stunt as a credible investigation, it seems that Garcia will not stay quiet and be abused in this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Corruption Report "corrupt" http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30037729 Quelle Surprise... It really is about time the English FA left FIFA.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Nobody (at least on these shores!) is the least bit surprised about their behaviour but the brazen way they go about it is just mind-boggling ! I would like to think that if we teamed up with the German, Spanish and maybe the Italian FA's there would be some clout to promote change but I'm probably being extremely naive ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 13 November, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Nobody (at least on these shores!) is the least bit surprised about their behaviour but the brazen way they go about it is just mind-boggling ! I would like to think that if we teamed up with the German, Spanish and maybe the Italian FA's there would be some clout to promote change but I'm probably being extremely naive ! The Italians? ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 FIFA corruption isnt just Blatter, his cronies and fellow takers probably hold sway in the majority of committees. I can't help wondering if Garcia, the FA and UEFA have planned to allow FIFA to publish this doctored report, discredit it and them and give them the platform for reform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Nobody (at least on these shores!) is the least bit surprised about their behaviour but the brazen way they go about it is just mind-boggling ! I would like to think that if we teamed up with the German, Spanish and maybe the Italian FA's there would be some clout to promote change but I'm probably being extremely naive ! The Italians? ! Lol, depends on whether its Northern Italy or Southern. There are a lot of good FA's in Europe, hence why UEFA is better than FIFA - but they are outnumbered within FIFA by developing and generally more corrupt South American, African and to some extent Asian (with notable exceptions like Singapore and Japan) associations. Its part of the reason Blatter has been so keen to promote WCs away from the 'home' of the game in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 It's a disgrace and an absolute whitewash as we all knew it would be. Nothing will change for years, let's hope blatter pops his clogs soon. Even the bloke who carried out the enquiy is saying that now. Qatar should be banned from anything and everything. They'll soon have more toubles that the 22 WC to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Quelle Surprise... It really is about time the English FA left FIFA.. Probably the only country that could do it and get away with it. Founders of the game, got the hottest club league in the world, and have a national team so shít they make small boys cry. Go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Let's smear the biggest footballing nation with some Mickey Mouse cobblers and while everyone is looking at them shaking their heads, we pull up a bit more carpet to hide more of this stuff under............ Admittedly the FA can be a bunch of dopey buggers at times. I like the way the Russians bid teams computers containing emails were destroyed (if I read it right) on FIFAs instruction!! Is just cast off merely as "oh well these things happen". Ah well won't be seeing a World Cup on these shores again in my lifetime............ The best thing about the Russian FA is that they said they couldnt access the documents/emails as they used rented computers that were returned, however they also said that the emails couldnt be found as they couldn't log into their gmail accounts (honest to god) and asked google to help them but got no reply. And FIFA just went, "yeah fair enough you tried I guess". LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 The best thing about the Russian FA is that they said they couldnt access the documents/emails as they used rented computers that were returned, however they also said that the emails couldnt be found as they couldn't log into their gmail accounts (honest to god) and asked google to help them but got no reply. And FIFA just went, "yeah fair enough you tried I guess". LOL Surely not? Oh come on now, you're Putin me on ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 FIFA, clearly do not give a **** what so ever.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Would welcome us pulling out although never going to happen. And also PL carrying on through Qatar and clubs not releasing players and just say fu ck em. Will be such a sh1t tournament anyway. Shame our hoolies couldn't go and kick the sh1t out of the ISIS backers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 The Italians? ! I did say 'maybe' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Be quite happy with 5-nations style tournament every 2 years. Balls to the WC. Last few world cups have been awful marketing-led nightmares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Fingers crossed for Jerome Champagne eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Fingers crossed for Jerome Champagne eh? You could put Jesus Christ up against Blatter and even he wouldn't win. Blatter and his cronies are all on the corruption gravy train. Platini should grow a pair, I won't hold my breath though. Greg Dyke surely has to pursue this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 You could put Jesus Christ up against Blatter and even he wouldn't win. Blatter and his cronies are all on the corruption gravy train. Platini should grow a pair, I won't hold my breath though. Greg Dyke surely has to pursue this. Thank god he's a bit of a *****, because it means he will pursue this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Europe holds the power. Despite Fifa trying to shift it elsewhere. Shame the big leagues/associations in Europe do not have the balls to go it alone. Imagine the English, German, French, Spanish and Italian FA's telling Fifa to do one. That is where the real money is They could invite nations for competitions and the like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Be quite happy with 5-nations style tournament every 2 years. Balls to the WC. Last few world cups have been awful marketing-led nightmares. Have they? Brazil 2014 was brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Have they? Brazil 2014 was brilliant. It was indeed for exactly the same reason that Qatar will be absolutely terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 It was indeed for exactly the same reason that Qatar will be absolutely terrible. Hosting a World Cup in a proper footballing country and it turns out good. Shocking isn't it?! Russia will be crap. Qatar will be an utter embarrassment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 Hosting a World Cup in a proper footballing country and it turns out good. Shocking isn't it?! Russia will be crap. Qatar will be an utter embarrassment Two out of every three should be in an established football nation (possibly in Europe) with the third year saved for taking the game elsewhere within reason. Screw all this taking it to South Africa Russia and Qatar. They have been or will be terrible world cups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 13 November, 2014 Share Posted 13 November, 2014 I don't think taking it to South Africa was bad... I found Ukraine as a choice for the Euros (even in a joint bid) much worse. It basically financed a few oligarchs out of there before the war broke out. I'm really not looking forward to Russia and Qatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 I don't think taking it to South Africa was bad... I found Ukraine as a choice for the Euros (even in a joint bid) much worse. It basically financed a few oligarchs out of there before the war broke out. I'm really not looking forward to Russia and Qatar. Fair enough but I thought south Africa was an appaling world cup. One of the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 South Africa was terrible. No atmosphere, crowd drowned by trumpets. Played with a 50p ball from the corner shop. Brazil was OK but England were worse than bad. No harm in pulling out of the next two and building for 2026. Great time to tell FIFA to do one in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Europe used to host every other world cup. FIFA scrapped that not so long ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 16 November, 2014 Share Posted 16 November, 2014 http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/german-football-boss-reinhard-rauball-says-uefa-may-leave-fifa-20141115-11nldd.html German football boss Reinhard Rauball says UEFA may leave FIFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 November, 2014 Share Posted 16 November, 2014 http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/german-football-boss-reinhard-rauball-says-uefa-may-leave-fifa-20141115-11nldd.html German football boss Reinhard Rauball says UEFA may leave FIFA please happen If UEFA broke away from FIFA, FIFA would die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 16 November, 2014 Share Posted 16 November, 2014 Hold the UEFA world cup and invite other counties like Brazil etc.. to compete to take part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 16 November, 2014 Share Posted 16 November, 2014 (edited) Really hope it happens, don't believe any football nation is overly keen on FIFA, they have held football hostage for long enough. Edited 16 November, 2014 by Plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 November, 2014 Share Posted 16 November, 2014 Hold the UEFA world cup and invite other counties like Brazil etc.. to compete to take part. would be immense imagine the top 20 European sides with the following invitations Brazil Argentina Chile/AN Other Uruguay/Ecuador Mexico USA Japan South Korea or China top 4 African nations there you go. 32 team world cup, that would be better than the current set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Malvo Posted 16 November, 2014 Share Posted 16 November, 2014 would be immense imagine the top 20 European sides with the following invitations Brazil Argentina Chile/AN Other Uruguay/Ecuador Mexico USA Japan South Korea or China top 4 African nations there you go. 32 team world cup, that would be better than the current set up Not really a world cup if most nations cant even take part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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